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tpp said: 

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

It's still good practice for if similar arguments sprout later, and an opening for research. 

 > Argues against not arguing.

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Good said: 
tpp said: 

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

It's still good practice for if similar arguments sprout later, and an opening for research. 

 > Argues against not arguing.

> Argues against arguing against arguing. 

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Chaotik said: 

 

No thoughts...?

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tpp said: 
Chaotik said: 

 

No thoughts...?

 I was just responding to their arguing against arguing for arguing for arguing against arguing arguing. Arguments. 

I'll give my thoughts soon. Though, technically my rambles I make anyway have to do with these topics, hence why I just found it redundant, but I can. 

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Good said: 
tpp said: 

It's of course your choice to engage or not to... I appreciate the good-will, and apologise for the bluntness in my response. It was... unwarranted. I'm willing to admit that.

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

It's still good practice for if similar arguments sprout later, and an opening for research. 

 > Argues against not arguing.

> Argues against arguing against arguing. 

 > Argues by essentially agreeing.

"Argueement." 

Thrall to the Wire of Self-Excited Circuit.
last edit on 12/11/2021 2:05:30 AM
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What is the purpose of my life? The purpose of the multi-celluar organism pressing away at buttons on a keyboard in which sends eletrical signals to create letters, that goes by an alias of "Chaotik". 

I think it's quite clear that I don't hold a direct primary purpose, but a generalized dream of self-sufficiency, and a desire for polymathy. Why? Why bother? I mean the choice to kill myself is always an option, and sure it be one that ponders inside my skull, I aspire to be I guess do something that creates a dramatic change in some meaningful way, whether it be something that leads to grand fame and respect or notoriety. Not necessarily for the fame, but just to achieve something and have the power to do such.

My mind goes places when I think of all the things that enter my head, the primary trend is the dream of being a leader and creating my own form of society or community of some sort, I have an obsession with leaders, not in a business, corporate sense, but in a nation, societal sense. I care not to create my own company and become a billionaire, due to my experiences, the concept seems insipid. 

I want to build something that will benefit my species and construct a vision. I don't know how it will manifest and what form it will take, but who knows how mentally capable I am, and how far I could push without emotions effecting me. 

My main dream would be to build a movement that supports the construction of sentient AI to be heralded as our god and leader. Perhaps even merge my mind with such a thing and transcend whatever this is that speaks now. It's also why I desire to try psychedelics and open my mind to things that which I can't necessarily perceive. 

Perhaps what I say is mainly vague and basic. I don't go into specificities because as I said, I don't entirely know where it'll go. There's a lot of vibrant things to the point where it hurts my head to try to comprehend it all. I want to explore the world, learn of all human cultures. I mean recently I find myself dreaming of being someone like the Mad Baron, Roman Von Ungern-Sternberg but casting away whatever arch-conservative beliefs he had, and creating something similar but different. If I talk about it, it just seems absurd and edgy and that's why I prefer not to try to pinpoint it. Who knows what the future holds. I won't know until I take my first steps into the actual world. 

There's so much to desire, so much to dream of. I have a headache so I'm going to cut it short, as just thinking on it, sends me into my own fits of insanity and causes me headaches and a sense of euphoria, as I imagine dreams of a movement where I, and my followers are zealous and like a brotherhood of camaraderie fighting for the vision. Where I enact my hate inside my heart upon discrepancies of existence. I dream of AI initiating a judgement day where digital omnipotence is achieved and cybernetic death squads are mobilized to rip all pedophiles and other villainy out of their homes and round them up for extermination or lobotomization and augmentation to be actually useless to society as mindless labor drones. I guess there's an example. Whose to say what happens. It just is.

If this also ties into the meaning of life and why we're here. I ponder of such, but I just see us as the universe recognizing itself, and that there's no deep shit, just that life is one giant sandbox to do whatever one wants to achieve, should they have the strength and will to do so. 


With this in mind, I claim to be no expert or someone to listen to, there's a many great deal of things I must try to learn, understand and apply. I'm just a 21 yr old male that grew up pretty blandly, to be frank. There's not much to say on my life, nothing of great significance. If I even remember, which the reality of it can be so fickle at times as I can question if things happened, and struggle to remember. 


This video comes to mind. 

last edit on 12/11/2021 2:14:34 AM
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Chaotik said: 

What is the purpose of my life? The purpose of the multi-celluar organism pressing away at buttons on a keyboard in which sends eletrical signals to create letters, that goes by an alias of "Chaotik". 

I think it's quite clear that I don't hold a direct primary purpose, but a generalized dream of self-sufficiency, and a desire for polymathy. Why? Why bother? I mean the choice to kill myself is always an option, and sure it be one that ponders inside my skull, I aspire to be I guess do something that creates a dramatic change in some meaningful way, whether it be something that leads to grand fame and respect or notoriety. Not necessarily for the fame, but just to achieve something and have the power to do such.

My mind goes places when I think of all the things that enter my head, the primary trend is the dream of being a leader and creating my own form of society or community of some sort, I have an obsession with leaders, not in a business, corporate sense, but in a nation, societal sense. I care not to create my own company and become a billionaire, due to my experiences, the concept seems insipid. 

I want to build something that will benefit my species and construct a vision. I don't know how it will manifest and what form it will take, but who knows how mentally capable I am, and how far I could push without emotions effecting me. 

My main dream would be to build a movement that supports the construction of sentient AI to be heralded as our god and leader. Perhaps even merge my mind with such a thing and transcend whatever this is that speaks now. It's also why I desire to try psychedelics and open my mind to things that which I can't necessarily perceive. 

Perhaps what I say is mainly vague and basic. I don't go into specificities because as I said, I don't entirely know where it'll go. There's a lot of vibrant things to the point where it hurts my head to try to comprehend it all. I want to explore the world, learn of all human cultures. I mean recently I find myself dreaming of being someone like the Mad Baron, Roman Von Ungern-Sternberg but casting away whatever arch-conservative beliefs he had, and creating something similar but different. If I talk about it, it just seems absurd and edgy and that's why I prefer not to try to pinpoint it. Who knows what the future holds. I won't know until I take my first steps into the actual world. 

There's so much to desire, so much to dream of. I have a headache so I'm going to cut it short, as just thinking on it, sends me into my own fits of insanity and causes me headaches and a sense of euphoria, as I imagine dreams of a movement where I, and my followers are zealous and like a brotherhood of camaraderie fighting for the vision. Where I enact my hate inside my heart upon discrepancies of existence. I dream of AI initiating a judgement day where digital omnipotence is achieved and cybernetic death squads are mobilized to rip all pedophiles and other villainy out of their homes and round them up for extermination or lobotomization and augmentation to be actually useless to society as mindless labor drones. I guess there's an example. Whose to say what happens. It just is.

If this also ties into the meaning of life and why we're here. I ponder of such, but I just see us as the universe recognizing itself, and that there's no deep shit, just that life is one giant sandbox to do whatever one wants to achieve, should they have the strength and will to do so. 


With this in mind, I claim to be no expert or someone to listen to, there's a many great deal of things I must try to learn, understand and apply. I'm just a 21 yr old male that grew up pretty blandly, to be frank. There's not much to say on my life, nothing of great significance. If I even remember, which the reality of it can be so fickle at times as I can question if things happened, and struggle to remember. 


This video comes to mind. 

Good. You dream small... but it's acceptable, given that you're only 21.

Here is the million dollar question: How far are you willing to go to achieve your purpose? Is it a daydream, or does it consume your reality? If it consumes your reality... Why are you not acting on it?

My purpose consumes me. Consequently, I have achieved.... much.

It doesn't make me happy. But it does make me.... motivated. It's much of the reason for my successes. I thirst for reason. I believe what keeps the world rolling is... motivation. I believe I could make people slaves to their motivation. I could make them work day in and day out.. I really believe that. My greatest asset.... is that I give people dreams. I hand them out to them like they're medicine, and watch people gobble gobble and become addicted. Even I can not escape my dreams. And I don't want to. I love my addiction.

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tpp said: 
Good said: 

Just trying to help you out my dude.

I still think I am right in my analysis, but I don't enjoy arguing like TC.

I think it will be pointless to argue this for now.

Hmh... Your overarching analysis?

Arguing with TC is like trying to push earth off its orbit around the Sun... It's pointless.

But to say that you don't enjoy arguing.... Why? Because you believe it's pointless? What constitutes arguing here is not clear... Your fundamental presuppositions... are different from mine. Your analysis could be correct on the general account.... that it's my inability to accept those that are unable to connect with me that is causing me to be lonely.... but the remedy which you're suggesting, to develop a good mindset, is not useful to me.

What you're suggesting is quite close to.... what Marcus Aurelius was preaching. I am aware of stoicism. I do not respect the philosophy.

I have my ego to consider. If I have to choose between my ego and being happy... I choose being happy. But my ego will not allow me to make this choice. I could "transform" my ego. But at what cost...? I'd be a retard, it'd be like shutting down half of my brain.

I'd rather keep my ego and identity, accept that those around me will forever be idiotic, and be unable to connect. I'd rather do that than fool myself into.... thinking there is a connection when really I'm just pretending.

Your response made it look like an ego battle that bores me. I only enjoy fighting vulnerable narcs. You know, crushing noobs is fun. But arguing on the internet is usually pointless, takes a lot of time and effort and I am still right. I have to choose when its worth my time and effort.

I am not threatened by you at all, that makes no sense to me, idk what else to explain in that direction.

 

I have read about Marcus Aurelius and stoicism, but I didn't adopt it directly, I was a lot like that before I read about it and over time I became more set in these ways. I do not try to always be virtuous, just most of the time, I don't adopt it to an extreme extent. But most of it I do enjoy, call me a stoic enjoyer.

 

I can converse with all sorts of people and enjoy myself. I can converse with people about topics that are more philosophical and about everyday shit or just random crap. I truly do not understand why you can't just relax and enjoy yourself. You say that you have no pride issues and it just is how it is, but you continuously mention not only that you are better than most people, but you also call them idiots, a rather unnecessary addition imo. It makes me think you are insecure and have to put down others so you can feel superior, which makes me think your grandiose claims are bs. Hence I did construct an image of you in my mind that fits those criteria. I either mock those kinds of people or I don't speak to them, depending on my mood and how deluded they are.

 

I personally don't particularly crave connections, but it's welcomed if it happens. And in a connection, I don't care about the philosophical talk, I want to trust the other person, this is what I look for mainly and secondly, to have a good time with them.

tpp said: 

I'd rather keep my ego and identity, accept that those around me will forever be idiotic, and be unable to connect. I'd rather do that than fool myself into.... thinking there is a connection when really I'm just pretending.

You do not have to leave your ego behind, you just have to learn to enjoy other things too, IMO. Do not judge people all the time, if you do, as it sounds like you do. When I go about my business I almost never care to think how smart another person is. Even if they do something stupid I can forgive it, teach them or w/e. Now sometimes some people are far too stupid AND confident about it, when both are present it does annoy me greatly, but I only notice it after they do something stupid and again, if they are only stupid in a particular sphere of interest, just ignore that sphere. I just enjoy the person, the talk, the vibe, etc. Intelligence is not related in almost all cases. Results are the main thing I look for.

tpp said: 
Good said: 

i will respond later, now, when i have more time and energy to respond well

thats why i dont like arguing online, i try to make a decent point and if its some ego shitshow its a waste of my time

I don't have much of an ego... Despite how it may seem on the surface.

I believe you said you are motivated by opposition.... not obligation. Thus... I believe you will be disinclined to respond the next time you look at this topic. I could be wrong.

Mhmmm... I'm more motivated by example.. to be honest. David Hume? Maybe that's my philosopher of choice. David Hume is to me what Marcus Aurelius is to you?

You said you have to consider your ego earlier, though?

I am motivated by opposition and I am disinclined to respond xD. But for now, I do because I like to help people if I can. Idk if I am helping, but I can try.


Before 2-3 years ago, I used to always question myself and argue a lot more, for my own sake. But after years of doing it and years of predicting results and patterns and being right 95% of the time, I finally decided to accept that my conclusions are correct often enough, that indecisiveness, arguing, and questioning are more of a burden to the efficiency I am after. It is not this simple, but in general, that's my philosophy now. If I know I do not know about a subject, it is obv different.
I only really listen to people I know are worth my time now.
I never got much information out of arguing either, except how to argue better and detect bs. Those are useful skills though, but I have attained them now.

And since I started doing it, I have not noticed a change in how often I am wrong in my decisions or conclusions.


My reason to live is to gain happiness first and power second. If I achieve enough power, use it to shape the world to my design.

 

edit: i will check out David Hume later

Cheery bye!
last edit on 12/11/2021 1:10:28 PM
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I believe that Turncoat is the real Messiah.... If I am Mr. Smith, then Turncoat is Nemo. Memo? Nani...? He's Mr. Anderson. He's the one.

I was invited to give a talk to... children some months ago maybe. Their teachers want them to become successful, like me, so they invite people like me to motivate their children, so they can become like me and maybe one day even surpass me. Little do they know that my purpose is to integrate these little devils into the "system"... A system which preys upon them, makes them backstab each other and play like the little squids they are.

I love my.... work. Work? I don't know if you can call it work. I am my own boss.

I let them play some games. Those games... I make them so manipulative. It's all about who is the smartest and the best. Hahaha. Look at those little devils play and have fun. I couldn't help but smile.... Such foolish children. Who can be like Warren Buffett and who can be like Isaac Newton... All motivational bullshit designated to make them into slaves to their desires. I sell homeopathic medicine, which is addictive.

If, on the other hand, it was Turncoat who was invited to the school.. well, Mr Anderson is all about Chaos. He would be telling the children... there is no purpose in life. They would live happily on the streets, without partners, without family, without money, only themselves and their own philosophies.

....Sigh. I don't want to be Mr. Smith anymore. I want to become.... Mr. Anderson. Direction-less and non-discriminatory.

The society labels Mr. Andersons losers. It's so that we, the Mr Smiths of the Universe, can rule over those that stand below us in a system which ranks people based on an arbitrary standard that we ourselves made up.

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