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Cardinals also technically have a three-gender split, rather than two: 

Treehugger.com (lol):

Bilateral gynandromorphism also occasionally shows up in northern cardinals. Since male and female cardinals have different coloration, it’s easy to spot a gynandromorph—which has brown-gray "female" feathers on one half and bright red "male" feathers on the other. According to a study, gynandromorph cardinals not only look different, but they also act differently, at least the one researchers observed from 2008 to 2010.7 During that time, the “half-sider” was never seen vocalizing or mating. On the plus side, other cardinals seemed to accept it: The researchers never witnessed it being mistreated.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

tpp said: 

SpatialMind... I might as well humor this, as I'm at least mildly.... curious about your answer.

You are right that Science can not explain everything. In the past, it was things like lightning and rain.. So we attributed it to Thor, the God of thunder. How else could lightning and rain be created if it was not by conscious design? Nowadays... well, we now know how thunder and rain work.

To be clear. I'm talking about how science has no idea how anything could have been alive to begin with. Once something dies we cannot bring it back, nor do we have the slightest clue how to bring things to life.

I'm not talking about what they might have believed in ancient Greece.

You see why he made the comparison though, right? 

It's apt, there's nothing to say that just as many years in the future that we couldn't come to learn and understand DNA's ins and outs the same way that we now understand Lightning. It's more likely a point on the timeline rather than proof of any sort of Creator when we use his Thor model. 

 Yeah I see why. 

Here's what we know.

Code doesn't write itself. And everything that is functional in us has purpose and is codded. This is the mark of intelligence.

Immune system ? Seriously ? A system. This is well thought out.

Through chaos we don't find functional masterpieces, no matter how much we shake a box of junk, we'll never pull from it an automobile. We're more complex than what we've made.

Spatial Mind said: 

Your liver. Has purpose. As does the heart and lungs. Your toes. The blood. There's no denying this. 

What's the appendix do? 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

tpp said: 

SpatialMind... I might as well humor this, as I'm at least mildly.... curious about your answer.

You are right that Science can not explain everything. In the past, it was things like lightning and rain.. So we attributed it to Thor, the God of thunder. How else could lightning and rain be created if it was not by conscious design? Nowadays... well, we now know how thunder and rain work.

To be clear. I'm talking about how science has no idea how anything could have been alive to begin with. Once something dies we cannot bring it back, nor do we have the slightest clue how to bring things to life.

I'm not talking about what they might have believed in ancient Greece.

You see why he made the comparison though, right? 

It's apt, there's nothing to say that just as many years in the future that we couldn't come to learn and understand DNA's ins and outs the same way that we now understand Lightning. It's more likely a point on the timeline rather than proof of any sort of Creator when we use his Thor model. 

 Yeah I see why. 

So you can accept the premise that, further down the timeline of humanity, that DNA could be completely trivialized when compared to the myths forming around it ala God of the Gaps? 

Code doesn't write itself. And everything that is functional in us has purpose and is coded. This is the mark of intelligence.

I think you might be looking at this a little too deeply into the computer metaphors. 

Survival of the Fittest errs more reasonably towards Occam's Razor than the presumption of a Creator, we can even trace a timeline with species that died out from having traits that were not ideal for survival. That which is of Nature has gone through a very long timeline of changes and adaptations, and there's tons of data on it. 

Through chaos we don't find functional masterpieces, no matter how much we shake a box of junk, we'll never pull from it an automobile. We're more complex than what we've made.

Through chaos you could find quote unquote 'Functional Masterpieces', it'd simply be a matter of the span of said Chaos's reach for how much it'd affect the odds of it's generation. 

Space is huge, dude, it's not that crazy to think this could happen along the same lines as The Infinite Monkey Theorem. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Your liver. Has purpose. As does the heart and lungs. Your toes. The blood. There's no denying this. 

What's the appendix do? 

 We're not sure. I'm reading it's believed to have something to do with with recovering from intestinal infection. This has been in the books for the past 22 years. Removing the appendix could potentially lead to intestinal complications. 

There are too many topics to address..... The big bang, popular beliefs, biology, the human body, dna..... Let me just pick one:

SpatialMind said:

As a matter of fact, the DNA is running like software. It's self sustaining within the functionality of procreation and it's still here.

Code is written especially complex code. For this to happened over and over again with so much design and functionality for a single species, let alone countless others on a spec of dust in the universe. To think it happened by accident by the inanimate at such disturbing levels is laughable.

I'm just saying. There is clearly purpose, and with that there is a consciousness behind it all.

As a matter of fact, rain is fine-tuned to give life to us. If rain didn't exist, then we wouldn't have plants and we couldn't harvest. We wouldn't be here. Clearly, rain was designed for us.

Lightning is a violent phenomenon that clearly is outside of this world. For something like this to happen by "accident" through the inanimate without conscious mind behind it is laughable.

I'm just saying. There is clearly purpose, and with that there is a consciousness behind it all.

You get the gist of my argument. If you are not interested in addressing it.... Then that's fine. It's fine for you to be theistic. It's none of my business. I'm sorry for "using" you to see if you would have an explanation to my problems. It was a mistake on my part to assume that anyone would have anything to give me that I haven't heard. All of that universe from nothing and whatnot... I've heard all of it before.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

tpp said: 

SpatialMind... I might as well humor this, as I'm at least mildly.... curious about your answer.

You are right that Science can not explain everything. In the past, it was things like lightning and rain.. So we attributed it to Thor, the God of thunder. How else could lightning and rain be created if it was not by conscious design? Nowadays... well, we now know how thunder and rain work.

To be clear. I'm talking about how science has no idea how anything could have been alive to begin with. Once something dies we cannot bring it back, nor do we have the slightest clue how to bring things to life.

I'm not talking about what they might have believed in ancient Greece.

You see why he made the comparison though, right? 

It's apt, there's nothing to say that just as many years in the future that we couldn't come to learn and understand DNA's ins and outs the same way that we now understand Lightning. It's more likely a point on the timeline rather than proof of any sort of Creator when we use his Thor model. 

 Yeah I see why. 

So you can accept the premise that, further down the timeline of humanity, that DNA could be completely trivialized when compared to the myths forming around it ala God of the Gaps? 

I don't accept that complex and highly functional code writes itself. You do, i don't. It's that simple.

Code doesn't write itself. And everything that is functional in us has purpose and is coded. This is the mark of intelligence.

I think you might be looking at this a little too deeply into the computer metaphors. 

No because the DNA is really 3D coding. And it's more advanced than our computer coding.

Survival of the Fittest errs more reasonably towards Occam's Razor than the presumption of a Creator, we can even trace a timeline with species that died out from having traits that were not ideal for survival. That which is of Nature has gone through a very long timeline of changes and adaptations, and there's tons of data on it. 

That doesn't say anything about there being a creator or not.

Through chaos we don't find functional masterpieces, no matter how much we shake a box of junk, we'll never pull from it an automobile. We're more complex than what we've made.

Through chaos you could find quote unquote 'Functional Masterpieces', it'd simply be a matter of the span of said Chaos's reach for how much it'd affect the odds of it's generation. 

Space is huge, dude, it's not that crazy to think this could happen along the same lines as The Infinite Monkey Theorem. 

 Yeah space is huge, and space is said to be above 0 as a substance while Hawking argued it's absolute 0.

The infinite monkey theorem would be a consciousness at play. Unpredictable sure. But self collapsing none the less.

We know we're made of dust. Science concurs with this.

We know everything on the Earth and the Earth itself came from space.

How was bacteria even alive ? We have different explanations, but it's not worthwhile for me to share my thoughts on the matter while I'm subject to ridicule and Odin and all that stuff.

We know there are planets like Earth out there that can support life, the nearest one that we know of is only 4.2 lightyears away. It is in this galaxy.

4.2 lightyears away, in this galaxy said to be 100 lightyears in diameter.  That's pretty dense, and is there's life on those planets, probably. But we don't know.

Good said: 

tpp's edge gonna make a security hole in the website

Sigh..... Did I hurt your ego? What power is it that you think you're giving me? It's all in your head.

SpatialMind said:

I don't accept that complex and highly functional code writes itself. You do, i don't. It's that simple.

You don't need to... Rejecting that complex and highly functional code writes itself doesn't necessitate accepting God. I do not believe that complex and highly functional code writes itself.

tpp said: 

There are too many topics to address..... The big bang, popular beliefs, biology, the human body, dna..... Let me just pick one:

SpatialMind said:

As a matter of fact, the DNA is running like software. It's self sustaining within the functionality of procreation and it's still here.

Code is written especially complex code. For this to happened over and over again with so much design and functionality for a single species, let alone countless others on a spec of dust in the universe. To think it happened by accident by the inanimate at such disturbing levels is laughable.

I'm just saying. There is clearly purpose, and with that there is a consciousness behind it all.

As a matter of fact, rain is fine-tuned to give life to us. If rain didn't exist, then we wouldn't have plants and we couldn't harvest. We would be here. Clearly, rain was designed for us.

Lightning is a violent phenomenon that clearly is outside of this world. For something like this to happen by "accident" through the inanimate without conscious mind behind it is laughable.

I'm just saying. There is clearly purpose, and with that there is a consciousness behind it all.

 

You get the gist of my argument. If you are not interested in addressing it.... Then that's fine. I'm sorry for "using" you to see if you would have an explanation to my problems. It was a mistake on my part to assume that anyone would have anything to give me that I haven't heard. All of that universe from nothing and whatnot... I've heard all of it before.

 Lightning is a part of this world and it too serves us as it ionizes the air. I'm not saying we've come to the point where we're capturing and using lightning bolts, but we are electrical and we do run on electricity too. Oh yes the brain is very electric and especially the heart which generates an EMF ( radio wave ) which signal can change based on our mood. When we eat, we're storing energy.

The plants need those who breathe and we need them. One cannot be without the other. It's a set up. Water falls from the sky. Sure there's a scientific explination for it but it's yet another staggering convenience making all of this happen.

The water the soil, the heat and rays from the Sun. Fruits and vegetables. The distancing, all a part of this big coincidence as you understand it.

What has purpose is done on purpose.