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The funny thing is love and trust make sense when it comes to my cat... I trust him because he's too stupid to make up elaborate plans and too weak to defeat me. I love him because he looks up to me like I'm the best thing that's happened to him. He tries to comfort me when I'm sad and he really sees me for me. It all makes sense when comes to my cat. I will love him and protect him and he's my lil furry meowy kitty <3

You can tell it's special when I'm "his person" and he bonded to me not the others.

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Spatial Mind said:

What page is this ? The highlight of your relationship update so far is a free car. HA HA HAAA !

I mean you read her rambles about what friendship is right? 

First of all... Spatial said some interesting things. 

Second of all... Yes the highlight of all my relationships have been the material things or favorable services they provide. I don't get emotion satisfaction, bonding or connection from anyone (there's an exception for the one friend who was murdered). When I do them favors, listen to them and buy them things it's out of a sense of duty of what "friends should do". 

I saw that from your first post. You kinda made it obvious.

As for your friends. It's okay to treat them every now and then, but if it's one sided and you're always fitting the bill then you should probably cease doing it. For example if you ran a business, your friends might expect free milkshakes all of the time but that cuts away at your profits while you have business expenses to pay. Your better friend will pay whenever they show up, discount or not. It's also better when currency flows between friends and family otherwise you'll end up dragging one another down. It sounds cold but it isn't. Better when your company knows how to fish as opposed to feeding them.

I have this one friend who's broke and I decided to give him some money, and he was like "Nah bro you keep it". I was like dude ? When opportunity comes your way you cut out the bullshit and you take it. Of course I don't do this all of the time and he knows why. I used to pay for him all of the the time when we were younger. It sounds a bit off, I give him money, I don't give him money. I shouldn't ever have to give him money, and I really don't. When I do it's for something important and not some duty I need to fulfill.  

If you don't pay for your friends, and they start resenting you for not paying for them, then they aren't good to keep. You have dreams too don't you ? Plus it isn't cheap to live here, you'll need to accumulate your wealth.

 

I can't feel loved by anyone friends or family. I may be broken... or a defective human. When someone says they love me I take it as a bad sign. They are either confused by the aroma of fun or lying to me. I don't fault anyone for being confused... It can be easy to mistake the feeling of happiness around having fun experiences with me to love. 

I feel better when someone says they don't love me. When they confess they just like to hang out with me because I think they are most honest. Love me? Most people don't even see me. I could be someone else and they'd say the same exact thing. I feel like most people don't want me they just want "someone" and I'm convenient and dependable. This is because I treat the relationship as a sort of duty to take on. I must help these people... if someone else was gonna do it they'd be there. 

I'm similar in that sense. In romance I prefer not to tell them I love them, and I don't particularly like it when they say it out of the blue for no reason cause then I'm supposed to follow the script too and then it feels unnatural. To me it seems like it's rehearsed as it's something we hear in the movies. Though when I really love someone, they'll know.

When it comes to successful relationships I think it's something else. We'll smile at one another, and there'll be body language and intuition that suggests a romantic bond and even spectators can see there's chemistry between the subjects. Yes we can love a romantic interest but we can love anyone and anything too and love doesn't change. Telling a romantic interest you love them isn't the best thing you can tell them.

Lately I've been thinking a profound questions.

"What is love?"... Is it a chemical feeling that can disappear at any time? Is it a contracted agreement to stay together (as long as they aren't overly toxic)? Is it enjoying fun experiences together and being caught up the moment? Is it being willing to die for them (even if out of a sense of duty)? Is it feeling empathy for their pitiful existence? Is it the feeling of looking up to someone in awe and admiration? 

Love is a state of being, not an emotion or a chemical reaction in the brain. Love goes beyond the physical realm where the brain is. We can feel joy for performing acts of love. You find a bird with a broken wing, you patch it up and cut it loose. That's love. An act of kindness or mercy. The will to inflict the good on others and the environment. It's a prosperous force. It's synonymous with creation.

Love considers the well being of others and nothing more. It is good to love you family and friends, and also your romantic partner. You may not think you love them cause you're not passionate about it, but it's there and it's enough, Again love is not an emotion. It's more, will power. A positive energy. To be loved is to be taken care of. The future is bright when people love you. They might have a misperception of what love is, and they may not ever tell you they love you, nor will they ever have to, what they do for you determines if you're being loved or not.

Another note on love, we're prone to appreciating it.

When it comes to romance do not confuse love with infatuation. Love isn't painful nor is it a selfish thing like being infatuated 'plus' demanding co-operation or having your expectations met or else you might have a bad episode. Love is nothing of the sort.

In a nutshell, society uses the word love so loosely people aren't even sure what it truly is.

 

"What is trust?"... Is it handing someone the knife so they can stab you? Is it saying 'this person is worth being destroyed for I guess'? Is it conceiting to your doom because you just don't care if they betray you? Is it giving them the power to destroy you so you fear the rest of your days?

 No. Cause if it were any of that, then you wouldn't trust them. 

On that note trust isn't intuitive, but good or bad intuition can yield trust. With that I'd say it's better to trust when you're sure.

last edit on 10/23/2021 7:22:04 AM
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What you say, Feathers, make me feel like you're a little similar to me. Also because I used to rant on online forums endlessly about the love of God; to this day, I don't know if I did it ironically or not. When Turncoat still respected me, he used to say I'm somewhat similar to you. I can see now how it might come across that way.

I don't get emotion satisfaction, bonding or connection from anyone (there's an exception for the one friend who was murdered). When I do them favors, listen to them and buy them things it's out of a sense of duty of what "friends should do".

"What is love?"... Is it a chemical feeling that can disappear at any time? Is it a contracted agreement to stay together (as long as they aren't overly toxic)? Is it enjoying fun experiences together and being caught up the moment? Is it being willing to die for them (even if out of a sense of duty)? Is it feeling empathy for their pitiful existence? Is it the feeling of looking up to someone in awe and admiration?

I'd love to ask you a few questions. But, from my experience, almost everyone lies about themselves. It makes interactions so boring and disappointing. I feel really gullible for genuinely believing what people say about themselves. Every time, I'm so disappointed. So, while I'd love to ask you a few questions, I realize that the only reason you're sperging out like this is because you momentarily feel desentisized. I genuinely feel desentisized, all the time. I feel like the greatest misfortune to ever befall my life was being told that there's a God who loves me unconditionally and that there's a soulmate who will understand me perfectly, and then having that comfort be taken away from me later in life. What is love? Love is a chemical reaction that compels us to breed.

Leftover-Lena steps to boyfriend: 1 Stop talking about me; 2 Stop being repulsive; 3 Change underwear >1 month; 4 Find people in your league
last edit on 10/24/2021 9:51:46 AM
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Whenever the honeymoon phase of the relationship is over things are prone to get sour. That could take awhile since your relationship is in a state of tension, awaiting one another's company.

Damn how long has your longest relationship lasted? 

Just to get it out of the way, women don't care about their man's feeling. LOL. Excuse me. So when a guy comes across as needy it's very offputting for women.

It's absolutely not mutually exclusive for a woman to care about a man's feelings and be put off by neediness.. It should be okay to have standards, and confidence is sexy. It goes for both sexes 

 

He seeks comfort in isolating you from other men, and is the type who would seek out to punish both you and the other guy if he's jealous enough.

Him giving you something he can't afford ( not happening for awhile I assume ) adds gasoline to the flames of his insecurity. He claims to give you everything in advance and maybe he'll pull it off and actually give you a car then return to being less made financially. After that ( if it actually happens ) you'll have to be very mindful of him catching your ass talking to other guys or else hell will break loose, and you'll learn something about him you never knew in a state of discord.

What page is this ? The highlight of your relationship update so far is a free car. HA HA HAAA ! If only that's all a man had to do in order to secure a woman's respect. You'll enjoy the car, but your instincts will yearn for a strong partner who worries less about his mental health and more about yours. Otherwise you'll begin to find him insufferable especially when you're depressed yet again.

With that I say set your boundaries early in your relationship. I'd reckon he doesn't trust you which is why he laid down what it'll be like if he catches you making him jealous.

 The part where you analyse things from the insecure needy guy's perspective seems a lot more accurate, lol. 

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What you say, Feathers, make me feel like you're a little similar to me. Also because I used to rant on online forums endlessly about the love of God; to this day, I don't know if I did it ironically or not. When Turncoat still respected me, he used to say I'm somewhat similar to you. I can see now how it might come across that way.

For me the love of God is not shared ironically. I used a whole year to test God. I would demand answered prayers with the threat of suicide saying "If you indeed love me do this x prayer, or I will kill myself and take the silence as a lack of love". Every single prayer was answered that year (both big and small). Some were big and I thought for sure it would never happen and I could die in peace. Then it happened... I was SURPRISED.

Even after the year was up I still didn't fully believe God loved me (at least not that much). It took me a few more years to accept God loves me more than just "in theory". It took years of growing closer to Him and Him never turning on me. 

The problem is... If it takes years for me to trust God (a perfect being) can love me... Who never did me wrong or hurt me. Then how can I ever trust an imperfect being? 

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I don't get emotion satisfaction, bonding or connection from anyone (there's an exception for the one friend who was murdered). When I do them favors, listen to them and buy them things it's out of a sense of duty of what "friends should do".

"What is love?"... Is it a chemical feeling that can disappear at any time? Is it a contracted agreement to stay together (as long as they aren't overly toxic)? Is it enjoying fun experiences together and being caught up the moment? Is it being willing to die for them (even if out of a sense of duty)? Is it feeling empathy for their pitiful existence? Is it the feeling of looking up to someone in awe and admiration?

I'd love to ask you a few questions. But, from my experience, almost everyone lies about themselves. It makes interactions so boring and disappointing. I feel really gullible for genuinely believing what people say about themselves. Every time, I'm so disappointed. So, while I'd love to ask you a few questions, I realize that the only reason you're sperging out like this is because you momentarily feel desentisized. I genuinely feel desentisized, all the time. I feel like the greatest misfortune to ever befall my life was being told that there's a God who loves me unconditionally and that there's a soulmate who will understand me perfectly, and then having that comfort be taken away from me later in life. What is love? Love is a chemical reaction that compels us to breed.

I think it's more than just "a God who loves me unconditionally". I think its romance movies, shows, books, animes that give me a perfect loving utopia I want. By the way, it's not too late to reconnect with God. He's there for me and He's the only reason I still fight for life, love and humanity.

Whatever this "love is" I want it even if the answer is complex. I want more than a chemical reaction, more than lust, more than a contract, more than the external behaviors of love... I don't understand love. Maybe I have a "mystical" view of love. I still can't let it go... I watch a lot of sermons on love and I'm keen on yanderes. I need a RAGING love that consumes.

Song of Solomon 8:6 "Set me as a seal upon your heart, as a seal upon your arm, for love is strong as death, jealousy is fierce as the grave. It's flashes are flashes of fire, the very flame of the Lord".

Hebrew Lyrics in English:

Set me as a seal upon your heart
As a seal upon your arm
For love is strong as death
Jealousy is fierce as the grave
Its flashes are flashes of fire
The very flame of the Lord

Many waters cannot quench love
Neither can floods drown it
If a man offered for love
All the wealth of his house
He would be utterly despised

last edit on 10/24/2021 8:01:39 PM
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Xadem said: 

Whenever the honeymoon phase of the relationship is over things are prone to get sour. That could take awhile since your relationship is in a state of tension, awaiting one another's company.

Damn how long has your longest relationship lasted? 

It does sound like he's preoccupied with the idea that women will leave him, doesn't it? 

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Xadem said: 

Whenever the honeymoon phase of the relationship is over things are prone to get sour. That could take awhile since your relationship is in a state of tension, awaiting one another's company.

Damn how long has your longest relationship lasted? 

18 years off and on. Another one 6 years straight.

Relationships don't really end, they are either good or bad. There's still something between you and Scarlett.

What I wrote is based on what I gathered from Feathers's BF's texts and not my outlook on how just any romantic relationship turns out.

 

Just to get it out of the way, women don't care about their man's feeling. LOL. Excuse me. So when a guy comes across as needy it's very offputting for women.

It's absolutely not mutually exclusive for a woman to care about a man's feelings and be put off by neediness.. It should be okay to have standards, and confidence is sexy. It goes for both sexes 

Men care about their partners feelings, it's why they are pretty good at making us take action. Women in general are put off by neediness, while men live to be needed.

Also we don't really choose who we fall for. As a man if your crush isn't up to spec, we'll work with it unless her case is too extreme.

 

He seeks comfort in isolating you from other men, and is the type who would seek out to punish both you and the other guy if he's jealous enough.

Him giving you something he can't afford ( not happening for awhile I assume ) adds gasoline to the flames of his insecurity. He claims to give you everything in advance and maybe he'll pull it off and actually give you a car then return to being less made financially. After that ( if it actually happens ) you'll have to be very mindful of him catching your ass talking to other guys or else hell will break loose, and you'll learn something about him you never knew in a state of discord.

What page is this ? The highlight of your relationship update so far is a free car. HA HA HAAA ! If only that's all a man had to do in order to secure a woman's respect. You'll enjoy the car, but your instincts will yearn for a strong partner who worries less about his mental health and more about yours. Otherwise you'll begin to find him insufferable especially when you're depressed yet again.

With that I say set your boundaries early in your relationship. I'd reckon he doesn't trust you which is why he laid down what it'll be like if he catches you making him jealous.

 The part where you analyse things from the insecure needy guy's perspective seems a lot more accurate, lol. 

 As it turned out, the whole post is most likely 95% correct. Feathers doesn't feel for the guy either.

Truth prevails.

I recognize you as the jealous needy type as well, Xadem.

 

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Idk, neediness is kinda cute to me. I tend to want to spoil my partners and with my insecurities and need for reassurance their neediness is kinda...sexy

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@ Spatial

I have feelings for him… or maybe had. I just need more from him to feel fullfilled. I feel unloved rn. So it’s hard to give when I feel empty. 

I need more attention, more of his obsession, more effort from him. It’s long distance and he works a lot. He’s not good at expressing his emotions either… I just need something to make my heart race ?!

last edit on 10/25/2021 5:53:01 AM
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Lenalee said: 

Idk, neediness is kinda cute to me. I tend to want to spoil my partners and with my insecurities and need for reassurance their neediness is kinda...sexy

 Minus the incels you claim are tireing. 

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