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The internet has evolved into a serious plague that I could see and technically do see regressing progress, that isn't to say similar trends witnessed didn't exist before the internet, merely that the internet has made issues such as conspiracy theorists more widespread and the accumulation of false information makes everything incoherent. While yes, our current AI employed tends to turn racist, it isn't truly self aware AI, I'd be of the faith that would say if it were able to internalize all the data of the internet, human history, and such, and it wouldn't be racist. 

I support regulation and filtering of information on the internet, I don't trust humans. The internet we know of is widely dominated by the West, and if the US can easily just take and shut down Iranian websites, then I understand and agree with the PRC's stance of the "Great Firewall" I see it as a first step to digital sovereignty and security for a nation. If it were up to me, platforms like Twitter would be wiped out. I see no need for them. Sure, you get "free speech" but then you let it fester and it just turns into a bunch of mentally ill disabled mutants detached from reality. Much like this place, or anywhere else on the internet, no offense. The abstraction of your personhood changes you. Not being held accountable to who you are, and acting like a different person online, in my opinion affects you mentally and isn't healthy.

If sentient AI can't come to regulate this issue, then I would promote the destruction of the internet. 


Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 "Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 

Wasn't she talking free speech last time? Seems she is moving to the right.

Leftist get their feelings hurt and shut down free speech.

Such American elitism to say that right-wing is free speech.

A bit contradictory too when they are the ones trying to shut down progressive sentiments. 

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Good said: 
LiYang said: 
Chaotik said: 

The internet has evolved into a serious plague that I could see and technically do see regressing progress, that isn't to say similar trends witnessed didn't exist before the internet, merely that the internet has made issues such as conspiracy theorists more widespread and the accumulation of false information makes everything incoherent. While yes, our current AI employed tends to turn racist, it isn't truly self aware AI, I'd be of the faith that would say if it were able to internalize all the data of the internet, human history, and such, and it wouldn't be racist. 

I support regulation and filtering of information on the internet, I don't trust humans. The internet we know of is widely dominated by the West, and if the US can easily just take and shut down Iranian websites, then I understand and agree with the PRC's stance of the "Great Firewall" I see it as a first step to digital sovereignty and security for a nation. If it were up to me, platforms like Twitter would be wiped out. I see no need for them. Sure, you get "free speech" but then you let it fester and it just turns into a bunch of mentally ill disabled mutants detached from reality. Much like this place, or anywhere else on the internet, no offense. The abstraction of your personhood changes you. Not being held accountable to who you are, and acting like a different person online, in my opinion affects you mentally and isn't healthy.

If sentient AI can't come to regulate this issue, then I would promote the destruction of the internet. 


Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 "Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 

Wasn't she talking free speech last time? Seems she is moving to the right.

Leftist get their feelings hurt and shut down free speech.

Such American elitism to say that right-wing is free speech.

A bit contradictory too when they are the ones trying to shut down progressive sentiments. 

 examples, no doubt the Far Right can be a pretentious church lady, maybe im talking about more Libertarian. labels are grey areas

basic medical freedoms outweigh hurt feeling on gender bathroom. you have to pick your battles.

medical tyranny is huge

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Leftist get their feelings hurt and shut down free speech.

 I wish there'd be a definition of a leftist to you.

The way I see it, you believe that Bill Gates and all the corporations, Biden, etc are all in conjunction with the Chinese Communist Party to engage in some sort of culling of the population for reasons yet undetermined but possibly satanic?

The definition that Biden, and for that matter the DSA and it's known figures such as Bernie Sanders, AOC, and political activist Noam Chomsky could somehow be categorized as aligned with the People's Republic of China and the Communist movement is simply absurd to me.

Do you view welfarism as a form of socialism that could lead to Communism? If so then you are being absurd.

There is a staunch difference between that of Communism and the Democratic party, the Democratic party wish to maintain the capitalist economic system, and do as better job at pacifying communist movements by promising social programs and welfare. During the days of the German Empire and when Karl Marx and his buddy Friedrich Engels were still around, the Iron Chancellor himself Otto Von Bismarck introduced welfare with the direct intent of curbing the reds from gaining any form of support from the workers. 

In 1918, the Social Democratic Party of Germany requested the help of the Freikorps which was made up many of the men, including Hitler to put down a the communist revolution happening at the time. Social Democracy is the same line of views that Scandinavia subscribes to, and what the "Democratic Socialists" in America actually are. Granted, during the time of nazis the social democrats and communists did work together but that was only because the ruthlessness of the nazis to them.

It is the CIA who worked with Trotskyists in a project called the Congress for Cultural Freedom which sought to create a new flavor of liberalism that espouses socialist and "communist" talking points but was ultimately useless in achieving either of the two, and only was a distortion to help keep young college students aligned with America for the most part against the evils of Marxism-Leninism, and Maoism. 

Many of these Trotskyist became what we know today as the Neoconservatives with their strong want for wars and interventionism. 

Biden and the CCP are not aligned, there is no political connection to be made between the two. The PRC operates under Socialism with Chinese Characteristcs and while it does have a market economy and has corporations of it's own. It isn't in anyway similar to the functions of America, and still operates as a top-down economy. 

The West actively opposes the PRC, and wants to destroy it. 

While I disagree with you on the vaccine shit, there is a threat but it isn't Communism. It's Silicone Valley Tech Giants who got there position from careful planning and funding from the CIA, and the internet which in my opinion was used as a means to spy on and collect data on us, as well as feed lies and misinformation to us, Facebook being the perfect tool for this.

Silicone Valley Tech Giants in co-operation with the CIA, that espouse the views of Neoconservatism and Neoliberalism. It's sad that I can even find myself agreeing with Alex Jones on some of the shit he says, or that I can sympathize with the views of anprims.

Actual Marxists don't affiliate themselves with the Democratic Party or align themselves with Federal Talking Points in foreign policy and actively attack existing socialist projects that wish to achieve Communism. 







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If you want serious videos talking about these things. I'd recommend




This one kind of touches on some of the things I said but overall is filled with other stuff, but I highly recommend the "The Synthetic Left" 


Granted, I don't agree with Maupin on everything but I respect his views and these are two videos I find myself agreeing with and considered pretty eye opening. 

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LiYang said: 
Good said: 
LiYang said: 
Chaotik said: 

The internet has evolved into a serious plague that I could see and technically do see regressing progress, that isn't to say similar trends witnessed didn't exist before the internet, merely that the internet has made issues such as conspiracy theorists more widespread and the accumulation of false information makes everything incoherent. While yes, our current AI employed tends to turn racist, it isn't truly self aware AI, I'd be of the faith that would say if it were able to internalize all the data of the internet, human history, and such, and it wouldn't be racist. 

I support regulation and filtering of information on the internet, I don't trust humans. The internet we know of is widely dominated by the West, and if the US can easily just take and shut down Iranian websites, then I understand and agree with the PRC's stance of the "Great Firewall" I see it as a first step to digital sovereignty and security for a nation. If it were up to me, platforms like Twitter would be wiped out. I see no need for them. Sure, you get "free speech" but then you let it fester and it just turns into a bunch of mentally ill disabled mutants detached from reality. Much like this place, or anywhere else on the internet, no offense. The abstraction of your personhood changes you. Not being held accountable to who you are, and acting like a different person online, in my opinion affects you mentally and isn't healthy.

If sentient AI can't come to regulate this issue, then I would promote the destruction of the internet. 


Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 "Can one of you define radical left for me and gives me examples of figures or parties that refer to the "radical left" just out of curiosity and what made Luna "radical left".

 

Wasn't she talking free speech last time? Seems she is moving to the right.

Leftist get their feelings hurt and shut down free speech.

Such American elitism to say that right-wing is free speech.

 The Right in the USA is for freedoms and free speech. You can call it what you want. Leftist, NAZIs get hurt and lash out. What does the Right stand for in the EU? Who are they? Do they have freedoms like guns and moonshine stills? Can you work freely without medical tyranny like forced and coerced vaccines?

 

That's the Right I'm talking about, the freedom loving one

 It's true. The right is constantly being silenced by left wing social media outlets.

Like damn. President Trump is banned on Twitter for what ? Hate speech they say ?

At the moment Stephen Crowder is banned on youtube for the rest of the year. The typical right winger sees their subscriptions vanish all the time.

Even the removal of the dislike button on youtube is for the left, as it shows how unpopular the left really is.

The left always pushes for silence, not only in social media, but in public too. Right wing speakers are constantly being harassed and protested by a mob of left wing activists demanding the truth be silenced. In Universities.

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Here is some basic material for the Americans:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum

 

The terms "left" and "right" appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the king to the president's right and supporters of the revolution to his left.[6] One deputy, the Baron de Gauville, explained: "We began to recognize each other: those who were loyal to religion and the king took up positions to the right of the chair so as to avoid the shouts, oaths, and indecencies that enjoyed free rein in the opposing camp".

 

Generally, the left-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "ideas such as freedom, equality, fraternity, rights, progress, reform and internationalism" while the right-wing is characterized by an emphasis on "notions such as authority, hierarchy, order, duty, tradition, reaction and nationalism".

Just because the American progressives are acting like fascists, does not change the meaning of the words, because the rest of the world still uses these terms for what they are. In general.

I actually had 2 Americans tell me I do not know what left and right means, as they inversed its meaning, even after I told them the above^. Tto this day, this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. And I watch a lot of conspiracy theorists.

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It's true. The right is constantly being silenced by left wing social media outlets.

Like damn. President Trump is banned on Twitter for what ? Hate speech they say ?

At the moment Stephen Crowder is banned on youtube for the rest of the year. The typical right winger sees their subscriptions vanish all the time.

Even the removal of the dislike button on youtube is for the left, as it shows how unpopular the left really is.

The left always pushes for silence, not only in social media, but in public too. Right wing speakers are constantly being harassed and protested by a mob of left wing activists demanding the truth be silenced. In Universities.

I'd argue that silencing is the agenda of both sides, but that which one holds the censor changes as the other one becomes it's rebel. 

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It's true. The right is constantly being silenced by left wing social media outlets.

Like damn. President Trump is banned on Twitter for what ? Hate speech they say ?

At the moment Stephen Crowder is banned on youtube for the rest of the year. The typical right winger sees their subscriptions vanish all the time.

Even the removal of the dislike button on youtube is for the left, as it shows how unpopular the left really is.

The left always pushes for silence, not only in social media, but in public too. Right wing speakers are constantly being harassed and protested by a mob of left wing activists demanding the truth be silenced. In Universities.

I'd argue that silencing is the agenda of both sides, but that which one holds the censor changes as the other one becomes it's rebel. 

 Of course you'll argue that. Denied. 

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It's true. The right is constantly being silenced by left wing social media outlets.

Like damn. President Trump is banned on Twitter for what ? Hate speech they say ?

At the moment Stephen Crowder is banned on youtube for the rest of the year. The typical right winger sees their subscriptions vanish all the time.

Even the removal of the dislike button on youtube is for the left, as it shows how unpopular the left really is.

The left always pushes for silence, not only in social media, but in public too. Right wing speakers are constantly being harassed and protested by a mob of left wing activists demanding the truth be silenced. In Universities.

I'd argue that silencing is the agenda of both sides, but that which one holds the censor changes as the other one becomes it's rebel. 

 Of course you'll argue that. Denied. 

I'd figure you'd figure I'd argue that the Right is the sole censor, but come on dude we both grew up watching how they utilized religion to control what was on our airwaves and what was and wasn't acceptable in public spaces. 

A lot of right wing protest isn't just that they feel silenced, it's that they feel the 'deviants' have too much of a voice (ex: Clown World). In their hands it'd be as it was just a few decades ago. 

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 Of course you'll argue that. Denied. 

I'd figure you'd figure I'd argue that the Right is the sole censor, but come on dude we both grew up watching how they utilized religion to control what was on our airwaves and what was and wasn't acceptable in public spaces. 

A lot of right wing protest isn't just that they feel silenced, it's that they feel the 'deviants' have too much of a voice (ex: Clown World). In their hands it'd be as it was just a few decades ago. 

 Maybe you're upset that Cuties got cancelled. I trust the backlash was somewhat bipartisan.

Let's be realistic. 99.9% of what's on the airwaves is secular content. 

I've seen televised Church services, early on Sunday mornings, long time ago.

This isn't Islam. Why do you feel oppressed by the church ?

 

 

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