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Fyi if i were br,s legal rep mommy daddy house in a fancy rich people town would never let me hear the end if it.

"i live with my mommy and im ok so you must be to!"

Just as much projection as "my lady partner controls my finances cus im quirky and sub like dat UwU you must be like dat to!"

 Is this a gendered issue to you?  What's so odd about the woman in the relationship being in charge of the finances?

 So you don't think TC is a woman?

 I'm talking about what Delora thinks.  I know your reading comprehension is not stellar, but please at least try to keep up with the sections you're replying to.

 My reading comprehension is fine but yours needs work. Delora didn't say anything about TC's gender, only that his 'lady partner' managed his finances. You were the one who referred to "the woman in the relationship" implying there's only one and it's you.

So do you think TC is a woman?

If you look at how she worded it, she said 'the woman' without self-referencing. There's nothing in what either Delora nor Crow said that aims to presume my gender beyond the implications in Delora's statement of the gender binary. 

 The self-reference is implied with the conversation being about your situation and delora's comment about how your lady partner, crow, (she could have said gf) manages your finances to which crow replied "What's so odd about the woman in the relationship being in charge of the finances?"

As a general question, yeah. It's in response to "my lady partner controls my finances cus im quirky and sub like dat UwU you must be like dat to!", which implies that to have 'the lady' be in charge of finances is 'subby and quirky' of the lady's partner rather than potentially normal, as if there's some reason that a lady shouldn't be in charge of them. 

Seems extra weird for Delora to say when it sounds like she's in charge of the finances. 

 
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Fyi tc said you can call him he. 

^This. It's about the intention behind the label rather than the label itself. 

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if you're not receiving payment in checks.  You've been on SSI for some time, as I understand, and receiving payments.  Unless you mean that your food stamps haven't shown up, in which case you have SSI money you could be using instead. 

That goes to trying to becone self sufficient and crawl out if this hole.

Food's not that pricy if you go for stuff like noodles. 

wrong.

$1.35 for a box of noodles. 

Oh and what about  1.35 evrey day?

Yeah, about $40.50 for the month. If you get bored of noodles you can swap to rice for a while. 

plus sauce

About $1.00, with the option of variety. 

So another $30.00 or so for the month. 

and veggied?

Don't buy veggies for a while if you're trying to save money, or stick to cheap ones like Green Peppers ($0.78 each) and try to spread them out. 

You could also grow your own if you were inclined that way. 

 

Then the rest of your money goes to food and utilities

How much have you been spending on utilities? 

200$

Do you keep a lot of lights on or something? Utilities can be pretty cheap. 

until they discover you saved more than 2000$ and take it all away.

Don't save more than $2000..? 

this is stupid, i just explained why that sucks. Km trying to escape the cycle sherlock

If you're able to save up $2000 then you're doing alright when it comes to day to day living, and if you're under $2000 then they can't take it away from you. 

SSI is meant to be there to help you sustain yourself. 

You also chose to move to Hawaii, giving up your rent-free situation to pay an overpriced rental fee for a literal fucking tent. That doesn't scream 'desperation' to me.  It screams poor financial management.

Wrong. We had to pay rent and news flash where we are going is cheaper and also provides some food. you clearly know nothing of my life.

She knows about SSI though. 

Thats the kost bullshit random illogical- what does that have to do with how she is wrong here? also ssi is only hakf the picture. she dies not know about me or MY life.

Just knowing what's been posted on the website tends to be enough. 

She displays being wrong about various basic parts of my life in this thread. Dont pretend she knows enough to be my life coadh.

You could always explain the ways it's wrong instead of just proclaiming "YOU DON'T KNOW ME!" while aiming to be further unknown. 

The defense gets weaker and weaker the more often it's used, especially if people do kinda have an idea of you. 

 

I dont live with mommy and daddy, i live in the real world and im sorry if living wirh mommy and daddy on ssi made things easier, but i dont have that. Not everyone is in tc land. Ssi without mommy snd daddy can be hard, and most dont make it when they fall throufh the cracks unless they find a way around things

$1.35. 

Just learn to budget and you'd be doing alright. If you've saved over $2000 then you should be able to afford food and rent. 

 i do budget. Learn to read.

If you were a good budgeter you wouldn't be in this mess. There's ways to save money and pay for your own food cheaply without having to eat flowers and dumpster dive, and if you're worried about the government taking money from you from being over their limit then you're doing well enough. 

 i can buy food, im saving and jm so poor that the only way to save anything is this waY. I dint have to dance about it

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I have to forage dandelions to eat, And gather the harvest from wild fruit trees. There are days that i go without eating at all. Food has grown more and more expensive overtime. i can see some ways to get out if my situation a little but but i cant help but feel stuck. I have lived on almost nothing for years trying to save the bits of money that trickle my way. I will buy some basic land soon and make a small farm so i can carr for my family someday. i am also going to try my hand at stock. Wish me lucK.

Um... Aren't you on SSI?  And didn't you brag about scamming them for more money than you're supposed to be getting?  If you're living on dandelions, you may want to rethink your spending habits. lol

 you clearly dont know anything about how ssi works. I am living on 750 a month and i am approved for food stamps but it never comes in the mail. due to covid i cant pick it up and tjey have resent the card 10+ times a d it never comes. No i dont brag about doing something for survival out of desperation. im eating dandelions because its the only way to save money so we can have enough to get out of this hole the system tries to trap me in and save enough scraps to crawl out. dony tell me how im wrong or how you tjink it works or actually works or should work or what your aunt sarahs situation is because you dont know shit about my life and im not going to explain it all.

 I'm TC's legal representative.  For SSI.  In the same state as you. lol

$750 per month is the maximum if you're paying rent.  You're staying with family instead of paying rent.  Which means you should be getting just over $500, max.  But, as you once boasted, you're lying to them about your living situation to maximize payments.

While I agree that either way it's not really a livable sum, it is in fact more than you're meant to be getting, and more than the nothing it takes to live on dandelions and dumpster diving.  A life I'm versed in myself, and can also go into detail on, should you choose to exploit the justification.  If you want to talk about living on less than $60/month, boy have I got some stories for you.

That entirely aside, I lost my job due to Covid, and in the meantime, TC's payments, without lying about our rent situation, is enough to cover food costs.  And we're not even on food stamps, like you are.

You say the card has continually not shown up in the mail, but they only send the card once, at the beginning of enrollment, if you're not receiving payment in checks.  You've been on SSI for some time, as I understand, and receiving payments.  Unless you mean that your food stamps haven't shown up, in which case you have SSI money you could be using instead.  And if it's truly been ten times in a row, you're in for a sizeable backpay, which I imagine you know.

You also chose to move to Hawaii, giving up your rent-free situation to pay an overpriced rental fee for a literal fucking tent. That doesn't scream 'desperation' to me.  It screams poor financial management.

I don't doubt you're under the poverty line, and that it's stressful.  Many people here are.  But let's not roleplay that you're like some potato famine victim, dying on the roadside with grass stains around your lips.  You're hoarding SSI.  I've got no beef with that, it's sensible, and honestly, fuck their system.  But you're fine.  You have money, and a support network.  And you only made this thread to congratulate yourself on your victimhood.

 but she has genuine mental health problems and her behavior is not always logical as a result of this. from my understanding she also doesn't have a legal representative as tc does, so this just seems like a drawn out post to prove you're better than her at managing welfare money lmao

 yeah. Although im good with managing money. Although my mental issues can affect things 

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Outro said: 

I can relate, I used to be trapped there too.

In my experience, the only ways out are blind luck and education. In my case, I went after education by any means necessary. Whether that's scholarships, working nights, joining the military, moving to Germany etc etc. I'd advise just do it. Education is the surest ticket out of poverty. My life (and that of many others) proves it. 

 yes, good advice. i cant wait tj go school. I have an investment i made in megaldon teeth a while back, and im selling en soon so i can buy a pc and go to school 

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last edit on 8/25/2021 6:03:27 AM
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We're getting on Delora's case for effectively 'Woe is Me'-ing

venting and also expressing hoPe.

Eating off the ground and out of the trash, unnecessarily, while continuing to go on about how much SSI's confused you, how food's too expensive, and how Utilities drain a good chunk of your money when you could probably be cutting those down as well. 

Ssi didnt confuse me. I just dont like being poor. I couldn't cut utilities it was complicated. But i justoved out of thag situation today

Why weren't you able to contend with the situations where they tried to take money from you, like the food stamp situation that had you lose out on $600? 

about having to eat out of the trash by her own, Pica-fueled volition,

I dont eat out if garbage for pica i do it to be able to actually save money and get out if this situation one day

You could avoid eating trash if you budget.

I do budget. Free food is a very helpful part of that budget.

I guess I'm struggling with the part where you desire to eat trash. 🤢

As long as you know you have other options..? 

Eating bland meh food is typically better than trash and flowers. I can't imagine you're even getting any real calories out of flowers. 

but its not cheaper.

Flowers don't have enough calories to really feed you, they're mostly water. 

I'm worried that you might be starving yourself or some shit. 

as if you look at much of what she's saying there's contradictions in there. Delora's the one who's trying to say it's some sort of contest

And ms.C because thats what your gf was trying to do, practically wanted a butterfly chart

MissComm is always looking for a reason to jab at me and her though, her opinion's so biased it's opportunistic. As she said, all it takes is some reading comprehension to notice what her points were actually about. 

She jabs at you because you are silly

Okay?

It's not a contest, and the sooner you drop that view the sooner it can be about ways you can save money. 

Its not she tried to act like it was.

She didn't, she just stated that she knows what she's talking about. It's more like presenting credentials while going after the foundation of your melodramatic rambling. 

from missing the point of the message, again, when we've otherwise been going on about ways that she could use that money better based on how we've been using it.

BASED ON HOW YOU HAVE BEEN USING IT. you are i  a different situation than me. Also thats not all your gf was doing dude, if thats all she did it would be fine. but she was being  a bitch to.

We have the same SSI, albeit with you making $200 more than me and with BR bringing in money. There is no reason you have to be eating out of the trash, that's a choice. 

If you are going to compare, br had a temp job which was unstable and payed far less than your girlfriends covid check or current job.

She just said she's been unemployed with COVID. 

Did he get any COVID checks? 

So at this point though you're more mad about some sense of tone, rather than the message itself? All she's done is say that she knows how to live on not very much money, and if you'd stop 'woe is me'-ing so much about 'the hole you're in' you might learn something. 

Yes the sense of tone matters. Shes being  a dick who acts like i cant vent

Does the tone matter more than the message? 

it depends on what you buy and what you eat. Our rent will already be affordable so thats step one.

...so more flowers and trash then? 

No hawaii has far better wild food than the mainland. for example  You find even kne bread fruit tree and you Will never go hungry.  also hawaii can be just as expensive as the mainland in price. Eat fish not beef. Eat green papaya not lettuce. Stuff like that. everyone always wants usual staples but once you get past that you are fine. The tropical environment makes some things cheaper than here.

So the Hawaii plan is to live in a tent and forage for food? 

Br has only had a job for so long and it was a temp job. I eat flowrrs because it is free food and free food means more money and more money means getting out of this trap faster.

Flowers aren't real food, you have to procure an entire cup of them to even get 25 calories out of it and there's basically no nutrients in it at all. 

Vitamins. Pick up a boom, calories are not all there is.Stop living on noodles.

Noodles are pretty bad by themselves for vitamins, but how many vitamins are you even getting from flowers? Having just looked into it I guess it's alright for Vitamin K needs, but to get the Vitamin A they're promising you need to eat like four cups of them to hit the daily expectation. 

Calories are how you don't starve, they're the backbone of why eating matters. While I am gung ho about vitamins as well you can't just ignore calories. 

Temp job or not he's still bringing in extra money isn't he? 

Not currently. We are hoping to find new work. I made this post stressed because bo had just gotten Laid off.

When he is working though it's probably a decent haul collectively between the two of you, right? It's not like you two are living off of just your check. 

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Does having SSI mean you couldn't receive covid unemployment checks after losing your job?  Genuine question cos idk. 

I thought you liked foraging?  You were doing dumpster diving long before this thread and you could always stop yanno? Like you said you're going to food pantries and stuff, surely you could go to the dollar store and load up on grains, beans, lentils cereals that are literally about a dollar and mix in your mushrooms and foraged items. Canned vegetables aren't that expensive either. 

You're looking for sympathy about your current situation that's you've put yourself into and getting mad cos other people are pointing out that you just use a small amount of that money to not be in such a situation. 

So you've described what you eat, what does BR eat? Does he forage and dumpster dive alongside you? He doesn't seem to have a problem with it? 

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Lena said: 

Does having SSI mean you couldn't receive covid unemployment checks after losing your job?  Genuine question cos idk. 

I was sent a covid check, and later on a letter for who to talk to in case I was not sent a check. 

You're looking for sympathy about your current situation that's you've put yourself into and getting mad cos other people are pointing out that you just use a small amount of that money to not be in such a situation. 

So you've described what you eat, what does BR eat? Does he forage and dumpster dive alongside you? He doesn't seem to have a problem with it? 

Yeah I'm a little curious less over what he eats and more over how he feels about Delora eating trash. 

Maybe I'm just super anti-trash biased, I know some dumpsters throw out fairly fresh things, but I dunno

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Lena said: 

Does having SSI mean you couldn't receive covid unemployment checks after losing your job?  Genuine question cos idk. 

I was sent a covid check, and later on a letter for who to talk to in case I was not sent a check. 

Which is why I was confused about her pointing out crows 'fat covid check' i was under the impression everyone either got their checks or their unemployment checks paid out cos covid.

 

You're looking for sympathy about your current situation that's you've put yourself into and getting mad cos other people are pointing out that you just use a small amount of that money to not be in such a situation. 

So you've described what you eat, what does BR eat? Does he forage and dumpster dive alongside you? He doesn't seem to have a problem with it? 

Yeah I'm a little curious less over what he eats and more over how he feels about Delora eating trash. 

Maybe I'm just super anti-trash biased, I know some dumpsters throw out fairly fresh things, but I dunno

 Most grocery stores end up throwing away perfectly fine food because best before dates and scared of lawsuits so I understand why some people dumpster dive buttttttttt

There's also a lot of crap, mold and bacteria in these dumpsters and idk if it's worth it. Better off working at a pizza place and taking home any of the fuck up pizzas/left overs 

 

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Lena said: 

Does having SSI mean you couldn't receive covid unemployment checks after losing your job?  Genuine question cos idk. 

Yes basically

I thought you liked foraging?  You were doing dumpster diving long before this thread and you could always stop yanno? Like you said you're going to food pantries and stuff, surely you could go to the dollar store and load up on grains, beans, lentils cereals that are literally about a dollar and mix in your mushrooms and foraged items. Canned vegetables aren't that expensive either. 

You're looking for sympathy about your current situation that's you've put yourself into and getting mad cos other people are pointing out that you just use a small amount of that money to not be in such a situation. 

I am frustrated at the sacrifices i have to make in order to escaoe the cycle.

So you've described what you eat, what does BR eat? Does he forage and dumpster dive alongside you? He doesn't seem to have a problem with it? 

 i like foraging but it only gets you so far. The food pantries usually just have bread and pastries. Dollar store is to expensive i can get foods for less than a dollar in other waYs. One dollar food adds up. 

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