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/watches Sugar defend why BR should be with Delora

natasha87 said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh".

 

 

 

Nope. My other reply is you dont know her enough to be so sure. 

 

 

 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

You know what.

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

 

 

This is disproven by the many times I have publically reprimanded her.

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

That's family business and im not sending people to prison om the internet. He did finally admit it when he was drunk. And I did tell you, you just don't listen.

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

 You are pushy af. Fyi Delora never gives me direct orders. Before you act like Delora is pushy and therefore owns me, and now you say you dont own me because you dont give direct orders? Delora isnt pushy or biased like you. You are what you say she is.

 yes bro. he is trying to get you to talk about things that were distressing to delora to trigger her again and stress u out, putting more strain on your marriage. he's fucking demented lmao then he'll be like SEE I TOLD U SHE'S BAD YOU SHOULD BE WITH ME INSTEAD

meanwhile his 'trustworthy handler' literally laughed at him while he was suicidal, were u here when crow made the thread telling us all he had gone to walk in traffic? what bigger indication that someone doesn't give a single fuck about u is there lmao

 Man, I didnt know that. Turncoat dude, if this is legit you need to cut this girl out. That is not cool. 

Turncoat said: 

/watches Sugar defend why BR should be with Delora

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh".

Nope. My other reply is you dont know her enough to be so sure. 

Have you ever thought that perhaps you don't know her? You've yourself admitted to not reading everything she says, while people like me and those who'd aim to be predatory have watched every single word. 

If you want to understand her even half as much as her enemies do, you'd bother to search her words here, but based on my multiple times having to be the informant of it you clearly have no interest in finding this yourself. 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

You know what.

Considering that I'm not gaslighting I don't, but if you're stuck seeing my attempt to express a reality that more than I see as if it were the gaslight then it clearly must be too far ingrained for you to see reason. 

I tried giving up on you before but something about her's too fucked up to leave you a victim to it. 

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

This is disproven by the many times I have publically reprimanded her.

Do you even remember how much it's taken for you to do that, and how quickly it took her to completely flip that around if it wasn't her leaving the website for... what, a month? 

Your 'public reprimands' don't mean shit beyond an expression of your own shame. At the end of the day she's still the clear winner here. 

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

That's family business and im not sending people to prison om the internet. He did finally admit it when he was drunk. And I did tell you, you just don't listen.

I listen to what you type but I don't remember anything from that that confirms he did anything, but rather you acting confused while taking her word for it. 

Especially considering how unstable she is, I don't imagine him being that stupid even within the throughs of narcissism. At most he likely admitted to something half-related and she reinterpreted it once you told her about it into something you could understand. 

I can't trust you entirely when she's the one telling you how to think, and I'm sorry if you find that disprespectful but that's honestly how I feel. You are not your own person, even when last we met you weren't, and all I can do is hope you find yourself within this storm. 

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

 You are pushy af. Fyi Delora never gives me direct orders. Before you act like Delora is pushy and therfore owns me, and now you say you dont own me because you dont give direct orders? Delora isnt pushy or biased like you. You are what you say she is.

You just don't see the orders I guess, as more than enough stories you told me were her directly telling you what to do with threats attached if you did not comply. 

I was who you ran to when she'd tell you you didn't have a choice, and while I told you that it'd be better to stand your ground and trust your family you seem to think she knows best. 

 She never said I didnt have a choice. I gave a one sided perspective,  and I even exaggerated and sometimes lied, including by omission,  and so you didnt understand the full context of certain things. A lot of threats she made were only to protect herself and her property. I was afraid of being sent to jail, or having one of my family members sent to jail. Other than lying by omission,  I shouldnt have done any of  that, and im sorry for it. I even tried to explain this to you, but you can have selective listening. That family member went severely  far with her, this is a fact. It wasn't subtle. 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

I gave a one sided perspective, 

I see. 

A lot of threats she made were only to protect herself and her property.

Sure. 

I was afraid of being sent to jail, or having one of my family members sent to jail.

You were, which is fucked up. 

Other than lying by omission,  I shouldnt have done any of  that, and im sorry for it.

You will always blame yourself until the day you die, only based on if you're caught by death half-way through a realization for otherwise. 

Enough of you sees the problem to question it, but not enough to see the problem. I'm doing my best to tell myself it's not my responsibility, and the best I can do is wait until your next moment where you question what's going on. 

I'll be around for those questions, but if you're really happy with her then by all means ignore me. 

I even tried to explain this to you, but you can have selective listening. That family member went severely  far with her, this is a fact. It wasn't subtle. 

'Selective Listening' sounds like her logic, and I'd believe you more if you weren't ignoring her so much. 

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

I gave a one sided perspective, 

I see. 

A lot of threats she made were only to protect herself and her property.

Sure. 

I was afraid of being sent to jail, or having one of my family members sent to jail.

You were, which is fucked up. 

You want to ignore the hint here that myself and my family were possibly doing illegal things to Delora?

Other than lying by omission,  I shouldnt have done any of  that, and im sorry for it.

You will always blame yourself until the day you die, only based on if you're caught by death half-way through a realization for otherwise. 

Enough of you sees the problem to question it, but not enough to see the problem. I'm doing my best to tell myself it's not my responsibility, and the best I can do is wait until your next moment where you question what's going on. 

I'll be around for those questions, but if you're really happy with her then by all means ignore me. 

I am. She is a bigger listener than you, for one.

I even tried to explain this to you, but you can have selective listening. That family member went severely  far with her, this is a fact. It wasn't subtle. 

'Selective Listening' sounds like her logic, and I'd believe you more if you weren't ignoring her so much. 

 Ignoring her?

BohemianRhapsody said: 

 

I was afraid of being sent to jail, or having one of my family members sent to jail.

You were, which is fucked up. 

You want to ignore the hint here that myself and my family were possibly doing illegal things to Delora?

I want to focus on how she accused her own family of it just as openly. She thinks her mom's doing shit to her too, in the bathtub. 

Repetitious ruminations tend to reflect their origin rather than the situations that follow it. 

Other than lying by omission,  I shouldnt have done any of  that, and im sorry for it.

You will always blame yourself until the day you die, only based on if you're caught by death half-way through a realization for otherwise. 

Enough of you sees the problem to question it, but not enough to see the problem. I'm doing my best to tell myself it's not my responsibility, and the best I can do is wait until your next moment where you question what's going on. 

I'll be around for those questions, but if you're really happy with her then by all means ignore me. 

I am. She is a bigger listener than you, for one.

Is she though? I just see her self-reflecting in a way that ignores the world around her beyond immediate stimulus. 

She can't go beyond three steps when it comes to cause and effect. 

I even tried to explain this to you, but you can have selective listening. That family member went severely  far with her, this is a fact. It wasn't subtle. 

'Selective Listening' sounds like her logic, and I'd believe you more if you weren't ignoring her so much. 

 Ignoring her?

Yes. 

You see what she says in person, but you don't bother to read what she says outisde of that. If you bothered to see everything she said you'd at least have 1/3 more of an idea than you do. 

The reasons why your 'enemies' have any advantage over you is purely over a matter of attention span. If you cared more to read every conversation she has you'd understand your own dominatrix. 

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

I was afraid of being sent to jail, or having one of my family members sent to jail.

You were, which is fucked up. 

You want to ignore the hint here that myself and my family were possibly doing illegal things to Delora?

I want to focus on how she accused her own family of it just as openly. She thinks her mom's doing shit to her too, in the bathtub. 

 

She didnt see that as sexual she saw it as demeaning. Also her mom admitted to it.

 

 

Repetitious ruminations tend to reflect their origin rather than the situations that follow it. 

Other than lying by omission,  I shouldnt have done any of  that, and im sorry for it.

You will always blame yourself until the day you die, only based on if you're caught by death half-way through a realization for otherwise. 

Enough of you sees the problem to question it, but not enough to see the problem. I'm doing my best to tell myself it's not my responsibility, and the best I can do is wait until your next moment where you question what's going on. 

I'll be around for those questions, but if you're really happy with her then by all means ignore me. 

I am. She is a bigger listener than you, for one.

Is she though? I just see her self-reflecting in a way that ignores the world around her beyond immediate stimulus. 

She can't go beyond three steps when it comes to cause and effect. 

You dont see her.

I even tried to explain this to you, but you can have selective listening. That family member went severely  far with her, this is a fact. It wasn't subtle. 

'Selective Listening' sounds like her logic, and I'd believe you more if you weren't ignoring her so much. 

 Ignoring her?

Yes. 

You see what she says in person, but you don't bother to read what she says outisde of that. If you bothered to see everything she said you'd at least have 1/3 more of an idea than you do. 

The reasons why your 'enemies' have any advantage over you is purely over a matter of attention span. If you cared more to read every conversation she has you'd understand your own dominatrix. 

 Dude what you say is evidence is just you reading into shit that isnt there with everything delora says. You are so egotistical that you are going to tell me what my sex life is for me?

TC, at some point you have to let BR make his own mistakes. He's not going to listen to you, he's dead set on following Delora and the more you attempt to drive a wedge between them the more they feel they need to stick together to fight against the "haters".

If her drinking drain solution in the bathroom to threaten suicide didn't wake him up to how manipulative she is, reasonable conversation and evidence will do nothing. Stop trying to help him, he needs to decide on his own and maybe hopefully everyone is wrong and their marriage will be fine and happy. If not well, he was told warned. He can dig himself out of the hole and go back to Ohio. 

Anything helpful you're doing is going to be turned and twisted into something else. Sometimes just gotta let someone eat shit before they realize they don't like it. 

Big shrugs.

Whorechata said: 

TC, at some point you have to let BR make his own mistakes. He's not going to listen to you, he's dead set on following Delora and the more you attempt to drive a wedge between them the more they feel they need to stick together to fight against the "haters".

 

If her drinking drain solution in the bathroom to threaten suicide didn't wake him up to how manipulative she is, reasonable conversation and evidence will do nothing. Stop trying to help him, he needs to decide on his own and maybe hopefully everyone is wrong and their marriage will be fine and happy. If not well, he was told warned. He can dig himself out of the hole and go back to Ohio. 

Anything helpful you're doing is going to be turned and twisted into something else. Sometimes just gotta let someone eat shit before they realize they don't like it. 

 

Big shrugs.

 I didn't do that because of anything related to Hawaii or anything I wanted.