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Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

 Did i say you could hust waltz right up and keep giving your beta opinion on my marriage?

From one beta to another, yes. 

Once you logged back on here to defend yourself you opened yourself up for the conversation to be on here instead of in private. These are otherwise the same things I'd be talking about in DM, and considering that I don't find the sub lifestyle shameful I don't see why you ought to either. 

You are hardly in my life, you dont know me, and you especially don't  know my wife. 

You both have divulged so much on this website that I wouldn't have needed in person introductions to understand the situation. I'd also go as far as to claim the very same two things about yourself, you're clearly confused and overstimulated by what's currently going on, and that you're making this much of a ruckus shows that you have some level of doubt over your choice to go with her. 

Why is it offensive to be seen as the secondary member of your relationship? Should I be finding myself ashamed of being the secondary member of mine? 

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

Turncoat said: 

You mean you do what she wants, amirite? 

It's fine though dude, there's nothing wrong with being a sub. You don't have to pretend that everything you're doing here is purely your own idea or plan, it's hers, and as a matter of power dynamics it may not be traditional but it's otherwise something plenty of people find themselves doing. 

Right, she was here for three years. She was miserable. I thought if I found ways to keep her here she would learn to be happy, but she never was.

What makes you think Hawaii will make her any happier other than maybe a time where she feels like she got her way? 

Past a point she will have successfully isolated you from all you were once connected to, and once you make new connections it'll just be the same problems all over again except on a tropical island. 

No, it was her who worked hard to reconnect me with family members and she had even pushed me to see them.

You mean to see how she saw your family as trying to sexually assault her and otherwise a 'problem in your life' constantly, even as they tried to teach you a trade skill and offered you a place to be by yourself to collect yourself? She's constantly aiming to isolate you from all other people, she can't stand other people and as far as she's concerned why should you? 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

She even helped me stop being mad at certain family members, even members who hate her.

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

Its others who attack her while she smiles on the sidelines trying to straighten shit out.

 

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

A family member will sexually harass her time and time again and all she does is feel guilty and try to help me forgive  that family member and smooth things over.

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

There were many times when she could have made me never want to speak to some members of my family again, but she did the opposite. 

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

 

 No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

BohemianRhapsody said:

 Oh yeah, man the first thing we are going to do is go to the nearby blacksand beach. The other thing we are going to do is backpack around the island. My wife is a little apprehensive,  but she agreed to do it with me. I can't wait to go. Same story with going down to kona and having some kona coffee for old times sake, that coffee is high quality. 

Sounds like it'll be fun... I hope you enjoy it. All I know about Hawaii is what I learned from south park... and stories by a few friends who visited.

From where I'm standing, it looks to me more like Turncoat made up his mind first and then looked at your case for things to reinforce his view. He doesn't appear impartial by any stretch of the imagination... It's a recurring issue for him. I haven't seen anything to convince me that he's aware of it.... though.

tpp said: 

BohemianRhapsody said:

 Oh yeah, man the first thing we are going to do is go to the nearby blacksand beach. The other thing we are going to do is backpack around the island. My wife is a little apprehensive,  but she agreed to do it with me. I can't wait to go. Same story with going down to kona and having some kona coffee for old times sake, that coffee is high quality. 

Sounds like it'll be fun... I hope you enjoy it. All I know about Hawaii is what I learned from south park... and a few friends who visited.

Yeah man, thank you.  And yeah, that place is sweet. There's a south park episode about hawaii? Maybe I could get Delora to actually enjoy south park with me for a change. That sounds awesome.

From where I'm standing, it looks to me more like Turncoat made up his mind first and then looked at your case for things to reinforce his view. I am not convinced he's aware of it himself.... but he doesn't appear impartial by any stretch of the imagination...

 Yeah, the lack of respect stings.

BohemianRhapsody said: 

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

 Did i say you could hust waltz right up and keep giving your beta opinion on my marriage?

From one beta to another, yes. 

Once you logged back on here to defend yourself you opened yourself up for the conversation to be on here instead of in private. These are otherwise the same things I'd be talking about in DM, and considering that I don't find the sub lifestyle shameful I don't see why you ought to either. 

You are hardly in my life, you dont know me, and you especially don't  know my wife. 

You both have divulged so much on this website that I wouldn't have needed in person introductions to understand the situation. I'd also go as far as to claim the very same two things about yourself, you're clearly confused and overstimulated by what's currently going on, and that you're making this much of a ruckus shows that you have some level of doubt over your choice to go with her. 

Why is it offensive to be seen as the secondary member of your relationship? Should I be finding myself ashamed of being the secondary member of mine? 

Turncoat said: 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

Turncoat said: 

You mean you do what she wants, amirite? 

It's fine though dude, there's nothing wrong with being a sub. You don't have to pretend that everything you're doing here is purely your own idea or plan, it's hers, and as a matter of power dynamics it may not be traditional but it's otherwise something plenty of people find themselves doing. 

Right, she was here for three years. She was miserable. I thought if I found ways to keep her here she would learn to be happy, but she never was.

What makes you think Hawaii will make her any happier other than maybe a time where she feels like she got her way? 

Past a point she will have successfully isolated you from all you were once connected to, and once you make new connections it'll just be the same problems all over again except on a tropical island. 

No, it was her who worked hard to reconnect me with family members and she had even pushed me to see them.

You mean to see how she saw your family as trying to sexually assault her and otherwise a 'problem in your life' constantly, even as they tried to teach you a trade skill and offered you a place to be by yourself to collect yourself? She's constantly aiming to isolate you from all other people, she can't stand other people and as far as she's concerned why should you? 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh". 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

tpp said: 

BohemianRhapsody said:

 Oh yeah, man the first thing we are going to do is go to the nearby blacksand beach. The other thing we are going to do is backpack around the island. My wife is a little apprehensive,  but she agreed to do it with me. I can't wait to go. Same story with going down to kona and having some kona coffee for old times sake, that coffee is high quality. 

Sounds like it'll be fun... I hope you enjoy it. All I know about Hawaii is what I learned from south park... and a few friends who visited.

Yeah man, thank you.  And yeah, that place is sweet. There's a south park episode about hawaii? Maybe I could get Delora to actually enjoy south park with me for a change. That sounds awesome.

The episode treats the rich and privileged as if they were the indigenous people of the island. It's meant to be ironic, but I don't imagine it will draw Delora in. 

That being said, it is a good episode, but people who like South Park tend to have an understanding of irony and absurdity. 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh".

 

 

 

Nope. My other reply is you dont know her enough to be so sure. 

 

 

 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

You know what.

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

 

 

This is disproven by the many times I have publically reprimanded her.

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

That's family business and im not sending people to prison om the internet. He did finally admit it when he was drunk. And I did tell you, you just don't listen.

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

 You are pushy af. Fyi Delora never gives me direct orders. Before you act like Delora is pushy and therefore owns me, and now you say you dont own me because you dont give direct orders? Delora isnt pushy or biased like you. You are what you say she is.

BohemianRhapsody said: 

Turncoat, man you respect me so little that not only do you ignore what I say about my own wife, who I have spoken with, and talked with over the years. I know her far better than you. You respect me so little, that you would rather dismiss me, all to validate you're own bias against her. You want to type on your keyboard about my relationship, when you dont even know my wife. And clearly you dont know me, you could know me, but understanding requires listening sometimes. Suck my 9 inch mega cock. Even now Delora is trying to calm me down saying you mean well, while you bash not only her, but also me. Hey doc, when my wife and I went to couples therapy, the first thing the therapist did was ask me about  my wife, but that seems to be the last thing you do. Did you know we went to counseling? Did you ask?

 i honestly think he's just projecting his own relationship with crow at this point. this bitch had him suicidal while she laughed on here and posted about how he'd gone to walk in traffic and she wanted someone new to fuck and he still defended her. she also tried to suck almost every guy heres dick while she was with tc, and was rejected by all to my knowledge. tc knew this and attacked edvard for example, even tho ed turned crow down lol

he's too scared to even acknowledge how he is mistreated by her, pretending he enjoys it but surely if he did truly enjoy it he wouldnt take issue with his idea of your relationship, as what he proclaims it to be is what he actually has with crow. he wouldn't feel the need to interfere in your marriage and pretend he has any type of control over his situation beyond being a good lapdog

it's crazy that he can't see how irrational and desperate he's behaving

BohemianRhapsody said: 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh".

Nope. My other reply is you dont know her enough to be so sure. 

Have you ever thought that perhaps you don't know her? You've yourself admitted to not reading everything she says, while people like me and those who'd aim to be predatory have watched every single word. 

If you want to understand her even half as much as her enemies do, you'd bother to search her words here, but based on my multiple times having to be the informant of it you clearly have no interest in finding this yourself. 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

You know what.

Considering that I'm not gaslighting I don't, but if you're stuck seeing my attempt to express a reality that more than I see as if it were the gaslight then it clearly must be too far ingrained for you to see reason. 

I tried giving up on you before but something about her's too fucked up to leave you a victim to it. 

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

This is disproven by the many times I have publically reprimanded her.

Do you even remember how much it's taken for you to do that, and how quickly it took her to completely flip that around if it wasn't her leaving the website for... what, a month? 

Your 'public reprimands' don't mean shit beyond an expression of your own shame. At the end of the day she's still the clear winner here. 

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

That's family business and im not sending people to prison om the internet. He did finally admit it when he was drunk. And I did tell you, you just don't listen.

I listen to what you type but I don't remember anything from that that confirms he did anything, but rather you acting confused while taking her word for it. 

Especially considering how unstable she is, I don't imagine him being that stupid even within the throughs of narcissism. At most he likely admitted to something half-related and she reinterpreted it once you told her about it into something you could understand. 

I can't trust you entirely when she's the one telling you how to think, and I'm sorry if you find that disprespectful but that's honestly how I feel. You are not your own person, even when last we met you weren't, and all I can do is hope you find yourself within this storm. 

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

 You are pushy af. Fyi Delora never gives me direct orders. Before you act like Delora is pushy and therfore owns me, and now you say you dont own me because you dont give direct orders? Delora isnt pushy or biased like you. You are what you say she is.

You just don't see the orders I guess, as more than enough stories you told me were her directly telling you what to do with threats attached if you did not comply. 

I was who you ran to when she'd tell you you didn't have a choice, and while I told you that it'd be better to stand your ground and trust your family you seem to think she knows best. 

BohemianRhapsody said: 

She's trying to play you against your family, and her getting you to Hawaii is the ultimate victory there. There's nowhere you two have been able to go together where you aren't having to pick up the pieces in ways that damage your relationships, and if they aim to persevere without tolerating her she makes you go away from them. 

If you ask me, no reasonable person should have to deal with her behavior. 

No she isn't,  you dont know enough about any of this to be so sure.

You literally have no reply other then "Nuh uh".

 

 

 

Nope. My other reply is you dont know her enough to be so sure. 

 

 

 

She's what made problems with them in the first place, you're a victim of gaslighting from someone who can't even recognize when they're doing it. 

You are the gaslighter.

What am I gaslighting? 

You know what.

She starts the majority of her fights, then plays the victim over believed negative traits of her 'enemies'. She picks them over how they otherwise have these flaws in the first place to pre-excuse herself, and you both don't explore the issue enough yourself to see how she starts them and you start every circumstance with her version already whispered in your ear. 

You will always end up siding with her version because you make it so easy to. 

No I dont always side with her, some arguments are her fault and she will tell me as much, or I will make her realize it, but some are not.

You still end up siding with her, no matter what. If it's a real issue where she stands to feel bad enough she'll threaten you enough to have to side with her. 

 

 

This is disproven by the many times I have publically reprimanded her.

You have rare moments where you bark orders at her, but they don't last. If she's listening to you it's really over how someone like Jim got to her, not because you did.

You can't control her, you have no control over her, she is simply uncontrollable. As a result from seeing it more as power dynamics with problem-solving themes you will always end up following her guidance, and all you'll have to defend yourself with is "You don't know", which isn't saying much when you don't know even more than this entire forum's worth of witnessing her actions. 

If you were patient enough to read everything she says, and I mean everything, you'd potentially understand what's going on. Because you won't you'll always know less about her than Inquirer, Berkshire Hathaway, or even Jim. 

Holy shit you're actually believing that your 'member of the family' is sexually assaulting her? 

You're doomed then. 

That family member told me he did. You clearly dont listen I have told you this before.

Did he? You never told me he admitted to repeatedly sexually assaulting your wife, I mostly recall her claiming it over and over until you believed it. 

What'd he do to her? 

That's family business and im not sending people to prison om the internet. He did finally admit it when he was drunk. And I did tell you, you just don't listen.

She's already tried, but when you didn't respond she had to switch up her strategy. 

You're her thrall, your need to protect her makes you her slave. This wouldn't be such a bad fate if she wasn't otherwise threatening both you and herself at the same time so that you'd play ball. 

She owns you dude. 

No it is you who wants to own me. I am sorry that you're relationship has some flaws, but my relationship problems are not the same as you're relationship problems.

I don't want to own you, if I did I'd be giving you direct orders. I just want to see you in charge of your own life instead of worrying about how someone might kill themselves if you don't follow orders. 

 You are pushy af. Fyi Delora never gives me direct orders. Before you act like Delora is pushy and therefore owns me, and now you say you dont own me because you dont give direct orders? Delora isnt pushy or biased like you. You are what you say she is.

 yes bro. he is trying to get you to talk about things that were distressing to delora to trigger her again and stress u out, putting more strain on your marriage. he's fucking demented lmao then he'll be like SEE I TOLD U SHE'S BAD YOU SHOULD BE WITH ME INSTEAD

meanwhile his 'trustworthy handler' literally laughed at him while he was suicidal, were u here when crow made the thread telling us all he had gone to walk in traffic? what bigger indication that someone doesn't give a single fuck about u is there lmao

omg i feel like tc is crying out for help but too scared to say it cos crow might find out lmaoooo