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Xadem said: 

If there are other members who have video chatted with her and stuff im probably wrong and out of the loop 

Xadem has video chatted with her at length. She's real, and even the dude Shifty's supposedly based on seems to be real, but is Shifty roleplay or just surprisingly dumb for a guy who works with computers, and despite her being physically real is her persona accurate towards who she really is? 

Yes, he is surprisingly dumb I think. The more stuff you pile on top the harder and less probable it becomes that Scarlett has been pretending to be someone else for over a year to me,

I know it's the simpler answer, and with what you've shown me it does highly increase the odds, but as I keep mulling it over I still see a lot of things that cause me concern. It only proves that the person Shifty is based on is real until he's like, Facebook messaged or something I dunno. 

It's not fun at the moment, maybe it'll be fun when I can be more sure that he's real again. That's not your responsibility to do but it's where I'm coming from. 

and various if not all other members of the forum.

...my research overtime has made me increasingly dubious. Again I'm curious but this also means I'm getting all of this news about this at once, so there's no passage of time for me to gauge things on and a ton of details even in the public domain are still missing to me. 

The... thing CS was rambling on about... has me back to being more doubtful, as now I have a reason to think that she'd know how to keep a secret, and the inclination to do so has been shown. 

On top of that she'd have orchestrated the larp of the year to the point of absolute insanity for several months, imitating and simultaneously interacting with, the character of a grown man in the way that occurred here and on Discord.

Like I said, I have chatted to both of them. simultaneously in real-time. There is zero doubt in my mind that at least Scarlett is not pretending to be her dimwit of an ex. 

Sorry, I'd need to see it. This specific logic has been thrown at me before, and I've learned from it a stronger idea of what things you can and can't multibox. While the simpler answer is that it'd be two people I'm now beginning to enter the realm of uncommon ideas. 

All of this suspicion is based purely off of damien's utter incompetence and idiocy and regardless of how humorous I find that, it's unsettling to have Scar being considered of being this level of calculating, insane and manipulative. Its beyond scepticism at this point and I suspect you entertain it for the sake of intrigue, TC.

No actually the more I process this the more that a worst case scenario is starting to become of my concern. 

This stopped being about "lol look at the clown", at least for now, from, I dunno, solemn-ness and general pessimism coming from continuing to look into it and mull over theories for what it could all be adding up to. I know the answer is to wait and watch more data compile, but if that takes too long I don't know what the endgame is if it's a "scripted" problem instead of a legitimate one. 

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Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 

If there are other members who have video chatted with her and stuff im probably wrong and out of the loop 

Xadem has video chatted with her at length. She's real, and even the dude Shifty's supposedly based on seems to be real, but is Shifty roleplay or just surprisingly dumb for a guy who works with computers, and despite her being physically real is her persona accurate towards who she really is? 

Yes, he is surprisingly dumb I think. The more stuff you pile on top the harder and less probable it becomes that Scarlett has been pretending to be someone else for over a year to me, and various if not all other members of the forum. On top of that she'd have orchestrated the larp of the year to the point of absolute insanity for several months, imitating and simultaneously interacting with, the character of a grown man in the way that occurred here and on Discord. Like I said, I have chatted to both of them. simultaneously in real-time. There is zero doubt in my mind that at least Scarlett is not pretending to be her dimwit of an ex. 

All of this suspicion is based purely off of damien's utter incompetence and idiocy and regardless of how humorous I find that, it's unsettling to have Scar being considered of being this level of calculating, insane and manipulative. Its beyond scepticism at this point and I suspect you entertain it for the sake of intrigue, TC. As for Lena idk why

 Cos stuff seems larpy. The character isn't flowing and there's been plenty of opportunities for scar to have him put away and yet...no? 

Something about it seems off and I tend to get obsessed with things if certain things don't fit.

 Well I don't know what to tell you. Clearly it's not Scar pretending to be him, so at least that's out of the way, but then who? 

 Idk, maybe someone that's playing it up pretending to be him to fuck with her. Theres just some insane larp qualities like him being very confrontational but wont pick up the phone? Like the very messy way hes going about the things hes doing.

Have you tried messaging him on other social media?

Also it could just be that my dislike of her is pushing it this far, you could also blame it on that.

 If there's someone playing it up then that leaves the question as to why he knew so many things about her personally, the larp narrative simply does not hold up. I have not messaged him on fb but I think (I'd have to double check) that I found his LinkedIn, but it's set to private.

You do dislike her but your scepticism isn't invalid, I truly do get it otherwise I wouldn't address it in the first place. The truth of the matter however is that this guy is not used to actual discussion. He hangs around with imbeciles and drug addicts which does not take a genius to manipulate. I anticipated that he'd have a hard time here and that's why I lured him to SC, I was hoping that I'd be able to run him off of here again. Which worked thanks in large part to TC and Good and User, too. So that message got through, hah. 

All this said he's still a rapist and a violent chimp so despite all this I consider him a danger at least. It was  just funny to see him reduced to attempting this route of manipulation/terror and confronting him with the reality of his intellect. He can still grab a knife and stab her though, he'd just go to prison for a long time. 

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as we were all catfished by luna so efficiently, not that any of us care too much but it would be wise for us all to be slightly more suspicious yes? ive seen enough catfish episodes to know how much work manipulation and planning is put into being a successful catfish lol. it gets................extensive

 

but i think it might be real unless for some reason scarlett wanted to mess with xadem and convinced a guy friend to larp as her ex

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Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 

If there are other members who have video chatted with her and stuff im probably wrong and out of the loop 

Xadem has video chatted with her at length. She's real, and even the dude Shifty's supposedly based on seems to be real, but is Shifty roleplay or just surprisingly dumb for a guy who works with computers, and despite her being physically real is her persona accurate towards who she really is? 

Yes, he is surprisingly dumb I think. The more stuff you pile on top the harder and less probable it becomes that Scarlett has been pretending to be someone else for over a year to me, and various if not all other members of the forum. On top of that she'd have orchestrated the larp of the year to the point of absolute insanity for several months, imitating and simultaneously interacting with, the character of a grown man in the way that occurred here and on Discord. Like I said, I have chatted to both of them. simultaneously in real-time. There is zero doubt in my mind that at least Scarlett is not pretending to be her dimwit of an ex. 

All of this suspicion is based purely off of damien's utter incompetence and idiocy and regardless of how humorous I find that, it's unsettling to have Scar being considered of being this level of calculating, insane and manipulative. Its beyond scepticism at this point and I suspect you entertain it for the sake of intrigue, TC. As for Lena idk why

 Cos stuff seems larpy. The character isn't flowing and there's been plenty of opportunities for scar to have him put away and yet...no? 

Something about it seems off and I tend to get obsessed with things if certain things don't fit.

 Well I don't know what to tell you. Clearly it's not Scar pretending to be him, so at least that's out of the way, but then who? 

 Idk, maybe someone that's playing it up pretending to be him to fuck with her. Theres just some insane larp qualities like him being very confrontational but wont pick up the phone? Like the very messy way hes going about the things hes doing.

Have you tried messaging him on other social media?

Also it could just be that my dislike of her is pushing it this far, you could also blame it on that.

 If there's someone playing it up then that leaves the question as to why he knew so many things about her personally, the larp narrative simply does not hold up. I have not messaged him on fb but I think (I'd have to double check) that I found his LinkedIn, but it's set to private.

You do dislike her but your scepticism isn't invalid, I truly do get it otherwise I wouldn't address it in the first place. The truth of the matter however is that this guy is not used to actual discussion. He hangs around with imbeciles and drug addicts which does not take a genius to manipulate. I anticipated that he'd have a hard time here and that's why I lured him to SC, I was hoping that I'd be able to run him off of here again. Which worked thanks in large part to TC and Good and User, too. So that message got through, hah. 

All this said he's still a rapist and a violent chimp so despite all this I consider him a danger at least. It was  just funny to see him reduced to attempting this route of manipulation/terror and confronting him with the reality of his intellect. He can still grab a knife and stab her though, he'd just go to prison for a long time. 

 So now you lured him here? 

Someone with a large amount of time is going to need to make a timeline with accurate event line, I don't have enough red yarn for this.

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Xadem said: 
 

 

I anticipated that he'd have a hard time here and that's why I lured him to SC, I was hoping that I'd be able to run him off of here again. Which worked thanks in large part to TC and Good and User, too. So that message got through, hah.

All this said he's still a rapist and a violent chimp so despite all this I consider him a danger at least. It was  just funny to see him reduced to attempting this route of manipulation/terror and confronting him with the reality of his intellect. He can still grab a knife and stab her though, he'd just go to prison for a long time. 

 xadem lured shiftycunt here?

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lol @lena

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Xadem said: 

If there are other members who have video chatted with her and stuff im probably wrong and out of the loop 

Xadem has video chatted with her at length. She's real, and even the dude Shifty's supposedly based on seems to be real, but is Shifty roleplay or just surprisingly dumb for a guy who works with computers, and despite her being physically real is her persona accurate towards who she really is? 

Yes, he is surprisingly dumb I think. The more stuff you pile on top the harder and less probable it becomes that Scarlett has been pretending to be someone else for over a year to me,

I know it's the simpler answer, and with what you've shown me it does highly increase the odds, but as I keep mulling it over I still see a lot of things that cause me concern. It only proves that the person Shifty is based on is real until he's like, Facebook messaged or something I dunno. 

It's not fun at the moment, maybe it'll be fun when I can be more sure that he's real again. That's not your responsibility to do but it's where I'm coming from. 

Yes the fun has been had at this point but trust me, you're a better conversational partner than Shifty so I'll gladly discuss with you this stuff than have infantile back and forths with him. 

A lot depends on when/whether he'll come back here, so there's only so much groundwork I can provide here before more information appears. 

and various if not all other members of the forum.

...my research overtime has made me increasingly dubious. Again I'm curious but this also means I'm getting all of this news about this at once, so there's no passage of time for me to gauge things on and a ton of details even in the public domain are still missing to me. 

The... thing CS was rambling on about... has me back to being more doubtful, as now I have a reason to think that she'd know how to keep a secret, and the inclination to do so has been shown. 

Yeah it's all at once for you but for me it all came through gradually and, naturally I suppose as far as these things go. I'll happily provide details if it means lifting the suspicion of Scar masterminding this. 

Notice how seriously I take this as opposed to how nonchalantly I handled Shifty, that's how much of a joke he is lol. 

On top of that she'd have orchestrated the larp of the year to the point of absolute insanity for several months, imitating and simultaneously interacting with, the character of a grown man in the way that occurred here and on Discord.

Like I said, I have chatted to both of them. simultaneously in real-time. There is zero doubt in my mind that at least Scarlett is not pretending to be her dimwit of an ex. 

Sorry, I'd need to see it. This specific logic has been thrown at me before, and I've learned from it a stronger idea of what things you can and can't multibox. While the simpler answer is that it'd be two people I'm now beginning to enter the realm of uncommon ideas. 

I'll have to do that after work then. I'll have to go back in my messages with Scar and link the exact times with the screenshots I have from Shifty. But those don't show dates, just time, so that could be a point of contention too. 

All of this suspicion is based purely off of damien's utter incompetence and idiocy and regardless of how humorous I find that, it's unsettling to have Scar being considered of being this level of calculating, insane and manipulative. Its beyond scepticism at this point and I suspect you entertain it for the sake of intrigue, TC.

No actually the more I process this the more that a worst case scenario is starting to become of my concern. 

This stopped being about "lol look at the clown", at least for now, from, I dunno, solemn-ness and general pessimism coming from continuing to look into it and mull over theories for what it could all be adding up to. I know the answer is to wait and watch more data compile, but if that takes too long I don't know what the endgame is if it's a "scripted" problem instead of a legitimate one. 

You know the narrative that Scar and I stand behind and I guess it makes sense to test it. 

"for if a man shall suppose the true conjunction to be false, it is not the conjunction which is hindered, but the man who has been deceived about it. If you proceed then from these opinions, you will be mild in temper to him who reviles you; for say on each occasion, It seemed so to him."

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Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 
Lena said: 
Xadem said: 

If there are other members who have video chatted with her and stuff im probably wrong and out of the loop 

Xadem has video chatted with her at length. She's real, and even the dude Shifty's supposedly based on seems to be real, but is Shifty roleplay or just surprisingly dumb for a guy who works with computers, and despite her being physically real is her persona accurate towards who she really is? 

Yes, he is surprisingly dumb I think. The more stuff you pile on top the harder and less probable it becomes that Scarlett has been pretending to be someone else for over a year to me, and various if not all other members of the forum. On top of that she'd have orchestrated the larp of the year to the point of absolute insanity for several months, imitating and simultaneously interacting with, the character of a grown man in the way that occurred here and on Discord. Like I said, I have chatted to both of them. simultaneously in real-time. There is zero doubt in my mind that at least Scarlett is not pretending to be her dimwit of an ex. 

All of this suspicion is based purely off of damien's utter incompetence and idiocy and regardless of how humorous I find that, it's unsettling to have Scar being considered of being this level of calculating, insane and manipulative. Its beyond scepticism at this point and I suspect you entertain it for the sake of intrigue, TC. As for Lena idk why

 Cos stuff seems larpy. The character isn't flowing and there's been plenty of opportunities for scar to have him put away and yet...no? 

Something about it seems off and I tend to get obsessed with things if certain things don't fit.

 Well I don't know what to tell you. Clearly it's not Scar pretending to be him, so at least that's out of the way, but then who? 

 Idk, maybe someone that's playing it up pretending to be him to fuck with her. Theres just some insane larp qualities like him being very confrontational but wont pick up the phone? Like the very messy way hes going about the things hes doing.

Have you tried messaging him on other social media?

Also it could just be that my dislike of her is pushing it this far, you could also blame it on that.

 If there's someone playing it up then that leaves the question as to why he knew so many things about her personally, the larp narrative simply does not hold up. I have not messaged him on fb but I think (I'd have to double check) that I found his LinkedIn, but it's set to private.

You do dislike her but your scepticism isn't invalid, I truly do get it otherwise I wouldn't address it in the first place. The truth of the matter however is that this guy is not used to actual discussion. He hangs around with imbeciles and drug addicts which does not take a genius to manipulate. I anticipated that he'd have a hard time here and that's why I lured him to SC, I was hoping that I'd be able to run him off of here again. Which worked thanks in large part to TC and Good and User, too. So that message got through, hah. 

All this said he's still a rapist and a violent chimp so despite all this I consider him a danger at least. It was  just funny to see him reduced to attempting this route of manipulation/terror and confronting him with the reality of his intellect. He can still grab a knife and stab her though, he'd just go to prison for a long time. 

 So now you lured him here? 

Someone with a large amount of time is going to need to make a timeline with accurate event line, I don't have enough red yarn for this.

Yes I told scarlett to ignore him on discord and I did the same which resulted in him leaving the encrypted environment of discord and get on SC which is kind of "my turf" in a way 

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Lena said: 

I gotta ask scarlett, why not take screenshots of his threats and hand them over to police for harassing you and violating the restraining order? 

I feel like this would solve a lot of problems?

 i think this was very clear. scar has not been exactly an angel and may not want the authorities involved. there was a hint of blackmail.

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MrCool said: 
Lena said: 

I gotta ask scarlett, why not take screenshots of his threats and hand them over to police for harassing you and violating the restraining order? 

I feel like this would solve a lot of problems?

 i think this was very clear. scar has not been exactly an angel and may not want the authorities involved. there was a hint of blackmail.

 Pretty sure menacing is a crime and again he's in violation of his restraining order. As for the things she did in the past those people would need to be brought up and testify against her and even that can be explained by the fact that she feared for her life and was coerced by her violent boyfriend at the time.  Hopefully that's what happened.

If she didn't want the authorities involved she wouldn't have sought for a restraining order, they don't just give them out willy nilly. At most if she is convicted she'll be maybe put in home detention but that seems so long ago and those people are probably dead or too far gone to make a difference.

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