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Almost all of that is nonsense.

You (and accounts like you) seem prone to pointing that out as a declarative rather than sticking to your guns through the facts themselves. Such rebuking only serves to show 'you', not to dismiss the ideas. 

You don't need to be hated to be powerful.

I didn't say that, I said that being powerful will inevitably lead to haters. 

People beloved by all do not lack power.

I figured 'all' meant all in their lives, rather than everyone ever. 

If you mean everyone then that is truly doomed to fail. 

Power isn't relevant to how you act in a relationship.

Care to elaborate, or are you just making declarative statements? 

Being yourself isn't bold and daring when it's at other people's expense.

Tell that to Trump bruh. 

Rich and beautiful people are happier than ugly and poor people.

For the rich their quality of life is better, which is where there's the most room to correlate these two areas. For the beautiful there's a fallacy people fall into where they presume attractive people must be more talented, but this with the desire aspects just lends to life being easier, not 'happier'. 

Joy is itself independent of wealth and the aesthetic, but rather about seeking higher forms of pleasure after being deprived of it for long enough. Toil serves as the counterbalance to pleasure, and without it the pleasures grow just as numb as their lack of strife. This is why those without life challenges among the rich and beautiful are often faced with boredom, much like the episode of Twilight Zone 'A Nice Place to Visit'. 

If everyone you know dislikes you, then you haven't met enough people.

I wish you luck in your quest never to fix your faults

It's moreover how to fix it and what needs fixing. Having it cut inward excessively leads to people who accomplish nothing beyond being everyone else's convenience, while it is those who challenge others to think more who embed into their minds. 

Seems easier to fix those faults.

Why do so many struggle to overtly change who they are then? 

Why not practice self-acceptance and seek those of a like mind, rather than self-flaggilate in the desperate hope of winning another's approval over having no confidence of your own to speak of without them? 

Saying you're a pussy for starting to shower because people tell you you're a smelly piece of shit is kinda weak.

There's likely someone out there who'd respect a 'real manly smell', a 'manly musk'. 

I like people who change for me, and I would never put up with people who just want to be themselves and can't make the slightest effort to fix their flaws.

You've said this multiple times while purposely not mentioning your own room to change for others. 

 Why do u even type. u know no one is actually going to even consider your points. your just wasting ur time.

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There are no facts to contest with: "Anyone with power will have haters." "It's better to be distinct and known than simply liked by all." You are prone to pointing that out as a declarative rather than sticking to your guns through the facts themselves.

My declarative statements are only an attempt to demonstrate how futile it is to converse with you, through mirroring.

 

Saying you're a pussy for starting to shower because people tell you you're a smelly piece of shit is kinda weak.
There's likely someone out there who'd respect a 'real manly smell', a 'manly musk'.

If you smell like shit and everyone tells you you smell like shit because you don't shower, you should shower. You're not "being a pussy" for taking their tip and changing your habits. Internet has brainwashed you.

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 Why do u even type. u know no one is actually going to even consider your points. your just wasting ur time.

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Obsess over them more, loathe thyself, ruminate over why you aren't good enough and then finally lower your standards.

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Obsess over them more, loathe thyself, ruminate over why you aren't good enough and then finally lower your standards.

What's the worst you've found yourself accepting from lowering the bar? 

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chimpi said: 

step 1: understand that you've lost this person as a potential partner forever

You don't re-date exes? 

Sounds like a terrible idea.

First, it shows that you are a revolving door and easy access, it also betrays lack of options. Second, it is not going to have the same taste as you both have met other people (hopefully) and you will see each other's defects even more now. They will think of what they could have / get instead of you, you are the secure safe convenience, not the hard to reach juicy apple.

step 2: understand that they are not unique 

Relatively speaking they kinda are. 

So is everyone.

step 3: understand why it happened from the pov of the other person

This being something that'd soothe assumes the other person's views are realistic or forgivable, as if both members of the party were on equal ground when it comes to blame. If the reason why things fell apart was over the other person's mistakes, this strategy is liable to have you doormat yourself towards future strife if not make constant excuses to survive the slings and arrows towards your ego. 

I agree here, especially if the other party has traits of some sort of personality disorder and is known to refuse accountability, along with toxic behavior, it. will just give them the idea that they can do whatever they want.

step 4: make an assessment of the reason of rejection, is it fair or unfair? do you even know why you were rejected? 

If they don't know why they were rejected, which is a common cope even with clearly given reasons, are they then entitled to 'figure it out' through their respective rejecter? 

The entitlement aspect to incels and people who otherwise won't get the hint can lend to stalking behaviors and interrogative conversation. Figuring out 'why' assumes the individual in question is even capable of detached introspection rather than solipsist analysis. 

Correct, this also gives them another chance to invalidate your reasons and try to shoehorn another attempt at closeness, twisting your arm. Better just tell them where they fucked up once and move forward, don't give them a chance to dismiss

step 5: if appliccable, change about yourself what you were rejected for 

So you'd insist that people change for others rather than stand on their own two feet defiantly in search for someone of ideal synergy? No man, it's better to find the ideal mate who gets you, considering that there's more than enough people out there to pick and choose from, rather than pretend to be another person or go as far as changing yourself to be 'more desired'. There's already people out there looking for someone like you, me, or even the most depraved, and with the internet it's become easier than ever to find these synergistic soulmates. 

I tried the doormat 'change for them' shit for years, it's how you become forgettable and easier to replace rather than distinctive and strong. It was the minute I stopped being as accommodating for people that things started going my way a bit more socially, where before that it just had everything devolve into their lives while mine simply became their welcome mat. 

People never change for the better, they only improve behavior until they are comfortable again. It's easier to just find someone with a good personality instead of trying to turn stone into water.

step 6: rejoice, for you turned rejection into an opportunity for self improvement! 

More like an opportunity for conformity. 

It's good to recognize problem traits, but becoming who another wants is inconsistent, inauthentic, stressful, and the only people you'll find while playing pretend are the pretenders and those looking for who you're pretending to be. 

I say be yourself and learn to have that 'you' taken more affably, the Jim lesson. In the end, the only person you really need to please is yourself, ideally with the aim of pleasing others simply being a means of pleasing yourself further. Fuck the world and it's expectations, if you're going to adapt you might as well keep your identity intact. 

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Yeah, I am what I am when you first meet me for the rest of the rel, a sensitive BPD bear who also does evil things, some people are put off by it, some people are attracted to it, but in the end I do not have toput on a false front to trap someone in the beginning. It's better to attract people who like you for what you are cuz u have more in common and better synergy

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chimpi said: 

step 1: understand that you've lost this person as a potential partner forever

You don't re-date exes? 

Sounds like a terrible idea.

Well yeah, for you. 😋

I try to remain friends with my exes, and have a dating history with each of them spanning minimum one year. Re-dating makes sense, especially if what we split up over in the first place doesn't last. 

First, it shows that you are a revolving door and easy access, it also betrays lack of options.

I'd figure that it'd demonstrate attachment, issues with letting go, moreso than a lack of options. I usually get 'lack of option' vibes more from people who have no one. 

Second, it is not going to have the same taste as you both have met other people (hopefully) and you will see each other's defects even more now.

You say defects, I say quirks. 

No one comes out of this without defects, it's more of a matter of synergy. 

They will think of what they could have / get instead of you, you are the secure safe convenience, not the hard to reach juicy apple.

This more betrays your desire for the chase, that's not really me. 

step 2: understand that they are not unique 

Relatively speaking they kinda are. 

So is everyone.

While generally true, whoever you dated in a serious sense will hold a more distinctive place in your mind, every little feature magnified by comparison to some everyman. Them doing something 2% differently from another will mean more from how much that difference has imprinted onto you, over how likely you are to notice that how others do it isn't like how they did it. 

It's a matter of sentimentality. 

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TC u're making me feel excluded by analysing everyone's list but mine

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