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Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Some people don't know or recall any of this, nor do they care. They will comply with their programmers. 

Projection. 

You have leaked emails. You have video footage of Joe Biden boasting about his quid pro quo with Ukraine.

It's not a good look for you to cry projection when I mention this.

Do you deny how this applies to you just as much as you'd assume out of your opposition? 

Yes.

Some will be enraged with the results, some will be left scratching their heads, some will have tantrums and live in a bubble of ignorant resentment while entitled to the greater blessings Trump provides their nation.

Best thing to come from him's a $1200 check. 

Well. The Prison Reform doesn't serve you. Neither does the jobs coming in, or the tax cuts, since you don't do anything.

You keep trying to imply that my opinion in politics is a selfish one with no actual basis beyond ad hom. It gets in the way of our room to otherwise have a civil discussion through undermining the process.

I never keept trying to imply that, I did it this time.

The $1200 cheque is not the best thing that came from him. ( unless you're a loser). The US thrives on those who succeed.

And as usual I'm honest and right.

Much of what he was falsely taking credit for towards the start of his presidency was the result of trickle down from Obama's time in office. You more so see the effect of presidential choices years after they've begun their time in office, not immediately.

Said Obama.

 

If you weren't born in the US, you wouldn't qualify for citizenship there tbh.

Guess which party makes it harder to enter? 

The party that only supports legal migration ?

Every nation cherry picks who get's to stay and who has to go. All one has to do is pull their own weight, or else welfare will drag you backwards.

 

In my opinion, the best thing that came out of Trump, is his support for the Blue Collars.

Hahaha what? 

Oh right, you still think helping the rich helps everyone. 

 Blue collars are generally low to middle class.

Without them, your faucets will cease, nor will you have any power and a list of other things that makes life easy.

You thought it's all automated ? Nope, it's mostly manpower.

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As for the rich. They are the biggest givers. They provide jobs and all kinds of pay. Taxing more than half of what the rich make will have devastating effects on business and employment.

Why would anyone want to open shop in Biden's America when they will tax 60+% ?

Power goes to China, and your money will provide food, lodging, and security to the one dismantling the hope and vision of freedom.

Spatial Mind said: 

Some will be enraged with the results, some will be left scratching their heads, some will have tantrums and live in a bubble of ignorant resentment while entitled to the greater blessings Trump provides their nation.

Best thing to come from him's a $1200 check. 

Well. The Prison Reform doesn't serve you. Neither does the jobs coming in, or the tax cuts, since you don't do anything.

You keep trying to imply that my opinion in politics is a selfish one with no actual basis beyond ad hom. It gets in the way of our room to otherwise have a civil discussion through undermining the process.

I never keept trying to imply that, I did it this time.

It's far from the first time you've tried to use it as a means of not taking me seriously. 

The $1200 cheque is not the best thing that came from him. ( unless you're a loser). The US thrives on those who succeed.

It is the best thing to come from him, especially when compared to former presidents. 

And as usual I'm honest and right.

You're definitely saying what you think you believe, but you don't really know that you're right, it's just a feeling. 

Much of what he was falsely taking credit for towards the start of his presidency was the result of trickle down from Obama's time in office. You more so see the effect of presidential choices years after they've begun their time in office, not immediately.

Said Obama.

It's been the case since before him, too. You'd be insane to expect immediate results when working with a population this diverse and sizeable, let alone from the US's system of governing, and even in a place with quick decisive shifting it'd still take time for it to trickle down through the classes towards the common man. 

If you weren't born in the US, you wouldn't qualify for citizenship there tbh.

Guess which party makes it harder to enter? 

The party that only supports legal migration?

Every nation cherry picks who get's to stay and who has to go. All one has to do is pull their own weight, or else welfare will drag you backwards.

The left has traditionally been the party to be softer on immigration requirements, while The Right releases propaganda about 'foreigners' 'taking their jobs'. 

If you look into any green card carrying citizen, they typically know more about America than the 'murricans, and two to three generations later down the bloodline's timeline and they'll be indistinguishable from the local fare. 

In my opinion, the best thing that came out of Trump, is his support for the Blue Collars.

Hahaha what? 

Oh right, you still think helping the rich helps everyone. 

Blue collars are generally low to middle class.

Yeah, they are. 

Trump helps the upper class, come on now. I assumed you were going on again about how paying the rich more money is supposed to help the poor, when in reality a system that regulates pay and rights towards workers is more likely to enforce it than the whims of the rich elite. 

As for the rich. They are the biggest givers.

No, they tend to be on average the most capable givers with the least personal toil behind it. 

The ones who try the hardest tend to make less money than those privileged within a more niche field. 

They provide jobs and all kinds of pay.

They're expected to, but if they do or not is a case-by-case basis if it's left up to them instead of Unions. 

Taxing more than half of what the rich make will have devastating effects on business and employment.

Not really, it's just putting control in the hands of government, and frankly, within the current wave of politics, it's the only way we have any hope of escaping a more blatant Corporatocracy. 

Why would anyone want to open shop in Biden's America when they will tax 60+%?

The corrupt rich won't be paying American taxes anyway, just like we've recently seen about Trump's tax records. They don't even tend to store their money locally with references of "Swiss Bank Accounts" being such a sage meme that it's older than I am. 

Turncoat said: 

 

Why would anyone want to open shop in Biden's America when they will tax 60+%?

The corrupt rich won't be paying American taxes anyway, just like we've recently seen about Trump's tax records. They don't even tend to store their money locally with references of "Swiss Bank Accounts" being such a sage meme that it's older than I am. 

 Just wanted to comment on this because I do find it interesting. 

 The trend has been the lower taxes are the more tax revenue generated while the higher taxes are less revenue generated. 

 This trend is explained through behavioral economics, specifically Laffers Theories which seem to be accurate in concept given   historical data. 

There's also a Correlation with Unemployment but seemingly only under certain conditions.

Thinking about Nate Silver, who doesn't have the greatest track record in reality, his tweets and his models really only speaks to how limited such models are at this point in the first place. 

Think about this Nate and his crew create a model in 2016 that is heavily skewed to a certain outcome and allows one, if they were so inclined to, to make a very clear inference that Hillary Clinton will win. 

In reality the opposite outcome one would logically infer from  the model occurs and then Nate states that this really isn't that unexpected. What he's saying is our model is inherently wrong, or more specifically, that modeling of this kind, one where the particular event is a presidential election, is just insanely difficult to do because the unknow knows + known unknowns create far too much uncertainty. 

That's what I conclude from his models and comments, fantastic methodology - completely reasonable- but the uncertainty in the variable space is just too great for any to be all that trustable. 

I've seen this "Well his models and the models in general really were wrong because -insert some youtube video or article about margin of error here-. Yes, I agree that the outcome was within the margin of error, however the distribution skew of these models were extreme and that's where the problem lied. Creating a model with a margin of error that covers the entire space of events is easy but that is just one metric in the standard of what it takes to make a good and sound model. Making an accurate distribution for that model, and that's truly task a difficult task, is where all the models failed and is where most models fail. 

With that, modeling for politics suck imo. 

I trust betting markets more than any model, especially after how in 2016 many models had hillary at a >95% chance despite having a 3% lead in the polls.

Going through the thread a first time.

Turncoat said:

I am curious how people will respond to a second wave of this. They've been all "Anyone but Trump" after the wake of protests and news scare tactics, so them seeing him (inevitably) win again's bound to be like an emotional electric chair.

Mass hysteria is already planned by the black bloc.

Inquirer said:

They use different polls?

Of course. Whichever are favorable to their narrative.

Xadem said:

I'm pretty sure that nigga's done for. Trump lost his 2016 magic, majorly.

I think if anything, he's looking stronger than ever. At least to his supporters.

Spatial Mind said:

I borrowed that last image from 50 Cent's twitter feed as he had a cow and endorsed Trump.

Until Chelsea "Handler" got involved.

Spatial Mind said:

Some people don't know or recall any of this, nor do they care. They will comply with their programmers. Some will be enraged with the results, some will be left scratching their heads, some will have tantrums and live in a bubble of ignorant resentment while entitled to the greater blessings Trump provides their nation.

People on both sides have really bad takes. I follow Fox News, and one of the things they like to do is send reporters to rallies to get what people there think of the president and this election. These people just parrot whatever Trump says at a rally, like "he made our economy better." If you asked how, they'd probably say "tax cuts." And if you asked them for information about the tax cuts, they'd hit a brick wall. Most people are just drones.

AliceInWonderland said:

There is no better and easier way to lie than statistics.

True. That's why I don't pay much mind to polls, other than as a general feel for what is going on.

Turncoat said:

How doesn't it make more sense to more heavily tax the rich?

Depends on how and to what extent. "The top fifth of households got 54% of all income and paid 69% of federal taxes; the top 1% got 16% of the income and paid 25% of all federal taxes, according to the CBO."

Turncoat said:

Hard to say it was a 'landslide victory' when he won the electoral college but lost the popular vote initially, and with this year's setup it's looking a bit rockier.

I still think Trump's going to win, but "landslide"s a bit nutcase to call it.

It wasn't a landslide, and this will be far more brutal.

Turncoat said:

Are they impressed with the riots in Republican run ones?

You're replying here to Spatial's suggestion that riots were causing a mess in Democrat-run States. I think he meant Democrat-run cities.

Turncoat said:

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians

Any evidence of that?

MissCommunication said:

Trump's disaster managing COVID-19 has likely cost him the seniors' vote

How would you consider it mishandled?

Spatial Mind said:

The mainstream downplays the riots and looting by calling it peaceful protests. Not all of them resort to burning and killing or looting but it still devalues the property and deters the willingness to open shop in the area.

Agreed. The nature of the beast here isn't that most people protest peacefully. I think most people are fine with that. The problem is when entire blocks of cities are shut down, and people who run businesses there end up losing everything they worked hard for, possibly forever. Add to that the devaluation of surrounding property. This has been allowed to continue for over 100 days, because it's overlooked in the name of political gain.

Turncoat said:

Hahaha what?

Oh right, you still think helping the rich helps everyone.

You're responding to Spatial saying that Trump helped blue collar workers here. The truth is that he did, by making it more expensive to work with China, thus incentivizing the re-birth of the automotive and steel industries here. He's also been a big supporter of fracking, the coal industry, etc.

TLDW: Guy has correctly predicted the President for 40 years, predicted Trump in 2016 but predicts Biden now. It'll be fun to go back to this video if Trump wins.

rip trump 2016-2020 it was an amazing 4 years 

Retard123 said: 

TLDW: Guy has correctly predicted the President for 40 years, predicted Trump in 2016 but predicts Biden now. It'll be fun to go back to this video if Trump wins.

Interesting enough he had Trump winning on all keys before COVID hit. 

The only two people who predicted 2016 correctly are now against each other, 

Lichtman vs. Cahaly, 13 keys vs. Trafalgar