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Spatial Mind said: 

Not only will Biden repeal Trump's tax cuts, he will implement higher taxes, ( for everyone considering how he'd undo Trump's tax plan ). 

I'm sure you're aware of why Biden's raising taxes, yes? It might not be the best plans, but it beats Trump's "it doesn't exist" plan. 

It's super expected for left vs right to amount to taxes vs benefits. At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself if the money in your pocket or the environment and social services is more important to you. 

Under Biden, If you make 400k or more a year, You'll be slashed by more than half of what you've made. Better to make less if you can't make 800k or more a year.

How doesn't it make more sense to more heavily tax the rich?

Will Trump win ? Easily. It'll be an even greater landslide victory

Hard to say it was a 'landslide victory' when he won the electoral college but lost the popular vote initially, and with this year's setup it's looking a bit rockier. 

I still think Trump's going to win, but "landslide"s a bit nutcase to call it. 

, and the ones left in shock will be the ones who paid mind to the lies they were fed by mainstream media.

This sounds like you patting yourself on the back for life handing out karmic vengeance. It's just raw propaganda, this bullet point, when both parties followers are more split into sub-demographics than ever. 

You can't really sit there and be like "The Left/Right will surely [action] over this" when they aren't really assembled together beyond a willingness to vote in the same things. To lump them like this opens up the room for me to start calling you "Nazi Adjacent" if we 'an eye for an eye' this for example, it does no one any good. 

- DNC cheated Sanders again, and gave you Biden

It's funny, there's Leftists at this point assuming it was from Right wing efforts that made for Biden being the Left wing candidate to oppose Trump in the first place. 

A lot of the left is not Biden-friendly, but the notion of "Anyone But Trump" seems to be catching on again. Even so I still expect Trump to win, and having Biden be the opposition's a bit insane. 

- People aren't impressed with the riots in Democrat run states, which turning into shitholes ( Don't move there )

Are they impressed with the riots in Republican run ones? 

From what I've seen, if you look past the news and see people who recorded the riots from within them? They aren't as crazy as the news wants it to appear, it's mostly a few specific interests trying to spark responses from crowds to further other down-the-line agendas of both sides with a lot of confused people just venting their feelings within a chaotic environment. 

Yeah riots are being provoked, but most of the rioters aren't really doing much. It's more like an assembly with cops overreacting. 

- People don't want tax hikes

They want what the taxes promise them without having to pay them, and where they draw the line tends to separate people into parties. 

- Biden is less popular than Hillary. ( Hillary is also unpopular )

It's a mixed bag, considering his history with Obama. 

- Russian Collusion. Was a hoax.

Ehhhh... 

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians, and even his 60 minutes interviews show how clearly pushed and afraid of China he is. You can follow his money pre-presidency, alongside his administration as of becoming president, to see clear connections with Russian interests. 

Trump was told he'd lose the 2016 if he didn't play ball with the Russians, it's obvious that they did a power play towards him to ensure his loyalty'd stick by scaring him towards the end of polling as seen by Trump insisting that the elections were rigged *right before he won*. 

He's also multiple times wanted to divulge presidential secrets, and has let a surprising amount slip out. One can only wonder how much of that's slipped out when talking to world leaders he's called "strong" for decades now. 

- Every negative report of Trump hasn't aged well. 

Every negative report? This claim seems a bit too bold to be real, especially when I can already think of a few that are still aging pretty well. 

Once he's out of the presidential seat, once he's old news, a lot of crazy shit's going to come out of the woodworks and onto paperback books. 

- Biden's long list of policies are widely plagiarized from Trump's policies ( Never in history did the Democrats offer such things. They are notorious for unfulfilled promises though. 

Which things? 

- DNC is now calling Hunter Biden's revelations "The Work of Russian bots". The truth in this matter is Biden is guilty of what they tried to impeach Trump over. Of course some of you don't know this cause the news never told you about it last year, while us conspiracy nuts are ahead and doesn't find any of this new.

You can't just sit there and talk like all the conspiracy nuts are on the same page. Rarely have I seen infighting happen as much as I have with numerologists, religious nutjobs, alien theorists and flat earther types alike. Most conspiracy nuts just adapt their theories against what's just occurred without noticing themselves doing it, which is why you'll seldom see one admit to being wrong, because their goalposts just changed without noticing. 

If this is to get anywhere it'd help if you labeled *which* conspiracy theorists you're saying "saw this coming". 

Some people don't know or recall any of this, nor do they care. They will comply with their programmers. 

Projection. 

Some will be enraged with the results, some will be left scratching their heads, some will have tantrums and live in a bubble of ignorant resentment while entitled to the greater blessings Trump provides their nation.

Best thing to come from him's a $1200 check. 

Turncoat said: 

- Russian Collusion. Was a hoax.

Ehhhh... 

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians, and even his 60 minutes interviews show how clearly pushed and afraid of China he is.

 This is where you lose me. 

  Trump is not only beyond hard on China, possibly so hard on China its   dangerous. 

 HKD is on the brink of collapse because of the actions the Trump administration has taken and honestly its horrifying. 

 The Hong Kong normalization act the biggest 'fuck you' I've ever seen in my live, especially in the context of a dozen other 'fuck you' Trump   has given them. 

Turncoat said:

You can follow his money pre-presidency, alongside his administration as of becoming president, to see clear connections with Russian interests.

Trump was told he'd lose the 2016 if he didn't play ball with the Russians, it's obvious that they did a power play towards him to ensure his loyalty'd stick by scaring him towards the end of polling through Trump insisting that the elections were rigged *right before he won*.

He's also multiple times wanted to divulge presidential secrets, and has let a surprising amount slip out. One can only wonder how much of that's slipped out when talking to world leaders he's called "strong" for decades now.

 Russian dealings in the past, sure. 

 But if you think he's easy on Russia you might want to go follow oil commodities and natural gas, the Trump administration has gone   nuclear on the market intentionally which has in turn hit Russia where it hurts most. 

Retard123 said: 

I can't wait for the dozens of youtube compilations of liberals crying. If donald trump loses, I will delete this account (and make a new one)

 

Don't forget about the bet Com

 Bet's still on, tardo. I think we should up the wager and the loser has to do a vocaroo screaming. xd 

MissCommunication said: 

Retard123 said: 

I can't wait for the dozens of youtube compilations of liberals crying. If donald trump loses, I will delete this account (and make a new one)

 

Don't forget about the bet Com

 Bet's still on, tardo. I think we should up the wager and the loser has to do a vocaroo screaming. xd 

 Why are you making it harder on yourself? Forget vocaroo.

@Tony - The 2016 polls were pretty interesting both in their accuracy and where they missed the ball. On election day the polls had narrowed considerably and the aggregate generally gave Clinton a 2-3 point lead. She ended up winning the popular vote by 2.1 points, which was right on the button. She lost the electoral college by a slim margin (~ 80,000 votes) spread over three states. Where pollsters got it wrong was at the state level where many were oversampling whites with post-secondary education and not factoring whites with no college education as a unique voting base - that's Trump's core base. 

2020 is different because the pollsters have corrected the demographics to account for education and there are also much fewer undecided voters this election < 5%. In 2016, the undecideds were closer to 18% right up the week before the election, which meant there was a lot of room for some swing. I've been watching the polls pretty closely for months and they aren't moving a lot, and when they have this last month it's been in Biden's favour. 

Trump's disaster managing COVID-19 has likely cost him the seniors' vote, which matters because they actually vote. Biden's also leading with minorities, females, and the youth vote. I don't see how trump can pull it off at this point. He's only appealed to his base and not made any effort to expand. His only chance of winning will be to undermine the election (which he has been doing) and try to steal it through trying to call election fraud. 

This link is interactive and it shows the polling in the swing states so you can play with the outcome pending each state's vote.

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/us/2020/battlegrounds/

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

- Russian Collusion. Was a hoax.

Ehhhh... 

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians, and even his 60 minutes interviews show how clearly pushed and afraid of China he is.

 This is where you lose me. 

Check his 60 Minutes interviews, both before and after he'd won. 

He never directly answers over how Russia's involved or not, he instead immediately tangents to how "China does it too", too. 

 Trump is not only beyond hard on China, possibly so hard on China its dangerous. 

His fear further pushed his alliance with Russian interests. 

He was essentially told that if he didn't play ball with The Russians that he'd have both them and China hounding his ass. At least by picking one of them he can "Protect the American People" similarly to how he put his negotiations with North Korea. He sees this as Diplomacy effectively, but the guy's been going on and on about them since he was younger. 

HKD is on the brink of collapse because of the actions the Trump administration has taken and honestly its horrifying. 

 The Hong Kong normalization act the biggest 'fuck you' I've ever seen in my live, especially in the context of a dozen other 'fuck you' Trump   has given them. 

Trump believes in destroying his competitors and otherwise palling up with powerful allies who say nice things about him.

What's really changed from NY to Presidency is over the scale of this script. 

Turncoat said:

You can follow his money pre-presidency, alongside his administration as of becoming president, to see clear connections with Russian interests.

Trump was told he'd lose the 2016 if he didn't play ball with the Russians, it's obvious that they did a power play towards him to ensure his loyalty'd stick by scaring him towards the end of polling through Trump insisting that the elections were rigged *right before he won*.

He's also multiple times wanted to divulge presidential secrets, and has let a surprising amount slip out. One can only wonder how much of that's slipped out when talking to world leaders he's called "strong" for decades now.

Russian dealings in the past, sure. 

Do you really expect that Trump just escaped that? 

But if you think he's easy on Russia you might want to go follow oil commodities and natural gas, the Trump administration has gone nuclear on the market intentionally which has in turn hit Russia where it hurts most. 

He's friendly with Russia and otherwise fears Putin in a more up-close and personal way, as he's more like his debt collector, while China is more like a brand name he can fight that already has it's fingers deeply entrenched into American business.

Turncoat said: 

AliceInWonderland said: 

Turncoat said: 

- Russian Collusion. Was a hoax.

Ehhhh... 

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians, and even his 60 minutes interviews show how clearly pushed and afraid of China he is.

 This is where you lose me. 

Check his 60 Minutes interviews, both before and after he'd won. 

I've seen it. 

He never directly answers over how Russia's involved or not, he instead immediately tangents to how "China does it too", too. 

Everyone does it. 

The question is does he admit that this is the only reason he won? Is it the only reason he won? 

I say no to both. 

 Trump is not only beyond hard on China, possibly so hard on China its dangerous. 

His fear further pushed his alliance with Russian interests. 

He was essentially told that if he didn't play ball with The Russians that he'd have both them and China hounding his ass. At least by picking one of them he can "Protect the American People" similarly to how he put his negotiations with North Korea. He sees this as Diplomacy effectively, but the guy's been going on and on about them since he was younger. 

Yeah? 

We do need to play ball with the Russians. 

We also need to play ball with China and the EU. 

We also need to break Iran. 

If two nations are to have a relationship that implies they must both play ball. 

What is the nature of the game and what rules have been necessitated? 

Well, playing ball with Russia implies we need a diplomatic relationship as we share several interests, such as dealing with China whom Russia too is not fond of. 

Economically we share interests but sharing economic interests in fact implies we are competitors on the ball field given we both have massive amounts of gdp vested energy, specifically gas and oil. Trump has play very hard ball here given his actions pushed oil and gas commodities to all time lows and even pushed Saudi Arabia to go nuclear and nearly crash the market. 

HKD is on the brink of collapse because of the actions the Trump administration has taken and honestly its horrifying. 

 The Hong Kong normalization act the biggest 'fuck you' I've ever seen in my live, especially in the context of a dozen other 'fuck you' Trump   has given them. 

Trump believes in destroying his competitors and otherwise palling up with powerful allies who say nice things about him.

The former statement I agree with. 

What's really changed from NY to Presidency is over the scale of this script. 

Has he changed, no. 

Has the Presidency and U.S. posture? Absolutely. 

Turncoat said:

You can follow his money pre-presidency, alongside his administration as of becoming president, to see clear connections with Russian interests.

Trump was told he'd lose the 2016 if he didn't play ball with the Russians, it's obvious that they did a power play towards him to ensure his loyalty'd stick by scaring him towards the end of polling through Trump insisting that the elections were rigged *right before he won*.

He's also multiple times wanted to divulge presidential secrets, and has let a surprising amount slip out. One can only wonder how much of that's slipped out when talking to world leaders he's called "strong" for decades now.

Russian dealings in the past, sure. 

Do you really expect that Trump just escaped that? 

What is the nature of these dealings? 

But if you think he's easy on Russia you might want to go follow oil commodities and natural gas, the Trump administration has gone nuclear on the market intentionally which has in turn hit Russia where it hurts most. 

He's friendly with Russia and otherwise fears Putin in a more up-close and personal way, as he's more like his debt collector,

Is he his debt collector? The world seems like every internationals debt collector. That is the fiscal and monetary policy of the world after all. 

Every international company has debt to every country they do dealings. It's kind of a none starter here. 

Perhaps then we should have a rule that no one with debt can run for public office as it would be the only means to avoid this. 

We all have debt traded internationally. 

Having said that, these are the questions that actually matter. 

1. Is Trump the holder of these debts? No, his companies do. 

2. How much of the debt is levered in Russia, China, and internationally? I'm not sure. 

 > Keep in mind these are banks, Russian banks are not horrible things as they actually follow the rules as a whole. China banks on the other hand do not and therefore could be the real danger. 

3. If anyone calls on those debts will his company go insolvent? This is unlikely except in the case of U.S. banks given most of his assets are national and liabilities are national. 

while China is more like a brand name he can fight that already has it's fingers deeply entrenched into American business.

 And it should be fought back against....

 Its the job of a President to defend U.S. interests, usually those are economic in interest and China is working towards cutting us out of Asia   would be detrimental given how much of are GDP comes out of dealings there. 

 The next 30 years will be economically speaking will be characterized by our relationship with China and our battle with them over world GPD. 

Given we are both going insolvent, that only makes it all the more interesting. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Not only will Biden repeal Trump's tax cuts, he will implement higher taxes, ( for everyone considering how he'd undo Trump's tax plan ). 

I'm sure you're aware of why Biden's raising taxes, yes? It might not be the best plans, but it beats Trump's "it doesn't exist" plan. 

It's super expected for left vs right to amount to taxes vs benefits. At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself if the money in your pocket or the environment and social services is more important to you. 

Earth isn't the only planet in the solar system warming. Us being the cause of global warming is a heated debate among scientists. Carbon tax is a cash grab. It doesn't stop global warming. If they are so concerned about this, then they should expand hydro electric technology.

Under Biden, If you make 400k or more a year, You'll be slashed by more than half of what you've made. Better to make less if you can't make 800k or more a year.

How doesn't it make more sense to more heavily tax the rich?

The rich create jobs and pay people. They give more than every other class. Increasing their taxes amounts to less jobs, lower wages. Business owners pay taxes for each employee too. The employee can say they pay taxes, but that money is held back and used by the employer, who is paying them anyway. The other classes don't do any of that and combined the other classes make more than the 1%. 

In the grand scheme, taxing the rich the most makes the nation less prosperous. It also makes it more difficult to get rich for those who start to make 400k and up cause the government will take "more than half" 

Aside from that, everyone's taxes will rise, so you too will get a pay cut, though I think you're a welfare case who is unlikely to obtain wealth.

, and the ones left in shock will be the ones who paid mind to the lies they were fed by mainstream media.

This sounds like you patting yourself on the back for life handing out karmic vengeance. It's just raw propaganda, this bullet point, when both parties followers are more split into sub-demographics than ever. 

I've heard similar accusations in the past.

Case in point, in 2016 people were decieved, the polls failed, except independent polling. They told you this would be a slam dunk for Clinton.

You can't really sit there and be like "The Left/Right will surely [action] over this" when they aren't really assembled together beyond a willingness to vote in the same things. To lump them like this opens up the room for me to start calling you "Nazi Adjacent" if we 'an eye for an eye' this for example, it does no one any good. 

On the contrary, I can and I just did.

Last election was considered by the left to be shocking, and an upset victory. Indeed people were upset. When asked, I'd tell you they've been lead astray. If Trump wins, it'll upset them. It's not that hard.

 

- DNC cheated Sanders again, and gave you Biden

It's funny, there's Leftists at this point assuming it was from Right wing efforts that made for Biden being the Left wing candidate to oppose Trump in the first place. 

A lot of the left is not Biden-friendly, but the notion of "Anyone But Trump" seems to be catching on again. Even so I still expect Trump to win, and having Biden be the opposition's a bit insane. 

I doubt the right had anything to do with Biden getting elected.

I once wrote in these pages how you will not get Yang or Sanders or Warren, But Joe Biden. How did I know ? I've been watching US politics long before it got this interesting, and I've seen it in action. It's been corrupt as fuck for decades.

When they elect a GOP, the elected then finds support.

Kennedy warned you about election rigging and the deep state before he was assassinated. 

- No one likes Biden.

- People were talking Yang, Sanders, and Warren.

- Biden is nominated. 

- The left is catching their own ass voting Biden, or not voting at all. Some of them, will vote for Trump.

- People aren't impressed with the riots in Democrat run states, which turning into shitholes ( Don't move there )

Are they impressed with the riots in Republican run ones? 

From what I've seen, if you look past the news and see people who recorded the riots from within them? They aren't as crazy as the news wants it to appear, it's mostly a few specific interests trying to spark responses from crowds to further other down-the-line agendas of both sides with a lot of confused people just venting their feelings within a chaotic environment. 

Yeah riots are being provoked, but most of the rioters aren't really doing much. It's more like an assembly with cops overreacting. 

The mainstream downplays the riots and looting by calling it peaceful protests. Not all of them resort to burning and killing or looting but it still devalues the property and deters the willingness to open shop in the area.

- Russian Collusion. Was a hoax.

Ehhhh... 

It's pretty damn obvious Trump owes money to the Russians, and even his 60 minutes interviews show how clearly pushed and afraid of China he is. You can follow his money pre-presidency, alongside his administration as of becoming president, to see clear connections with Russian interests. 

Trump was told he'd lose the 2016 if he didn't play ball with the Russians, it's obvious that they did a power play towards him to ensure his loyalty'd stick by scaring him towards the end of polling as seen by Trump insisting that the elections were rigged *right before he won*. 

He's also multiple times wanted to divulge presidential secrets, and has let a surprising amount slip out. One can only wonder how much of that's slipped out when talking to world leaders he's called "strong" for decades now. 

The FBI has no record of collusion. The CIA recently reported that the Russian collusion accusation originated from Hillary.

I'm sorry. 

Also. The US owes Russia money. But aside from that, the US and Russia should get along. As for China, they do manipulate their own currency as a way to play the US. China did become the #1 economy under Obama. Trump took it back rather quickly. Yes that happened. 

 

- Every negative report of Trump hasn't aged well. 

Every negative report? This claim seems a bit too bold to be real, especially when I can already think of a few that are still aging pretty well. 

Like what  ?

Once he's out of the presidential seat, once he's old news, a lot of crazy shit's going to come out of the woodworks and onto paperback books. 

They will say Trump was a racist and destroyed the economy. How he put illegal children in jail, without mentioning the illegal part. ( even though Obama set that up ) They will say he profited from being President ( but really it costed him and hurt his businesses ). They will say he was friends with Epstine, ( Even though Trump banned him from his resort )

America will remain divided for some time until the next generation slowly takes over and complies under new rules with barriers that prevent outsiders from winning elections ever again. Paying high taxes in a collapsing economy, while China dunks on the US and becomes the new world power.

Trump could be a dynasty for awhile.

Turncoat said: 

   

- DNC is now calling Hunter Biden's revelations "The Work of Russian bots". The truth in this matter is Biden is guilty of what they tried to impeach Trump over. Of course some of you don't know this cause the news never told you about it last year, while us conspiracy nuts are ahead and doesn't find any of this new.

You can't just sit there and talk like all the conspiracy nuts are on the same page. Rarely have I seen infighting happen as much as I have with numerologists, religious nutjobs, alien theorists and flat earther types alike. Most conspiracy nuts just adapt their theories against what's just occurred without noticing themselves doing it, which is why you'll seldom see one admit to being wrong, because their goalposts just changed without noticing. 

If this is to get anywhere it'd help if you labeled *which* conspiracy theorists you're saying "saw this coming". 

As a matter of fact. Adam Schiff was on CNN the other day blaming Russia for the leaked Hunter Biden Emails. 

 

Some people don't know or recall any of this, nor do they care. They will comply with their programmers. 

Projection. 

You have leaked emails. You have video footage of Joe Biden boasting about his quid pro quo with Ukraine.

It's not a good look for you to cry projection when I mention this.

 

Some will be enraged with the results, some will be left scratching their heads, some will have tantrums and live in a bubble of ignorant resentment while entitled to the greater blessings Trump provides their nation.

Best thing to come from him's a $1200 check. 

 Well. The Prison Reform doesn't serve you. Neither does the jobs coming in, or the tax cuts, since you don't do anything. Enjoy you $1200 cheque, whatever it is you waste money on.

If you weren't born in the US, you wouldn't qualify for citizenship there tbh.

In my opinion, the best thing that came out of Trump, is his support for the Blue Collars. The people that make living life easy. Keep the utilities flowing. Delivery of food and gas. All you need to do is crawl out of your hole, and buy your candies at the corner store and go back home.