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 I think about it sometimes tbh

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Kestrel said: 

I'll concede at "a massive fear of the opposition". 

Both sides are being really sensationalist, and cherrypicking is becoming the norm. 

  • You live in a time where the vast majority of news stations and social media platforms endorse the democratic party and shun their opponents

The Censor chopping at both sets of news stations is a Corporate problem, not a Party one. There's plenty of Right Wing news stations, but naturally they don't represent fascist parties like The Nazees. 

  • That a side with an overwhelming lead in power wouldn't unfairly exploit its rival

Both sides sling shit at each other, and it's not news. 

  • That even the president has passed legislation condemning the censorship of right wing ideals for some valid reasons.

What's this one? 

  • That despite there being an abscence of organized Alt Right terror attacks, there's a very zealous witchunt for them and the topic has a major prescence in mainstream liberal owned media

There are people who are steering the masses, and it makes sense to isolate who those people are and measure their impacts over larger bodies of people. 

Both sides have them, and it'd be stupid to not keep an eye on them. 

It's been spelled out for you in every way but literally. 

So yes, The Mainstream Media and The Main Feed are "in on it" in the sense of The Censor being utilized currently by The Left. The idea of "Removing Misinformation" is terrible, and I've been against this as a matter of my general distaste vs The Censor. 

The Censor is a weapon, and in anyone's hands it's bad. We want The Free Marketplace of Ideas to flourish, which means even nutbars need their platform to speak from. This problem is free of party ideology and ought to be focused on purely over how the tool itself works. 

We're in a time of Information Warfare, and I remain curious where you're arming yourself. 

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Just uh, don't make a boogaloo server and you should be ok

(As an aside -- some of the boogaloo bois are interesting. I liked when some showed up to a BLM protest, fully-armed, to support BLM and willing to fight alongside antifa to stop police brutality. They were more against a police state and losing their guns than white supremacy BS.  A lot of "radical" fringe groups aren't even very organized or united in their beliefs. And it's funny when the right and left are like - hell yeah, let's take them out together.)   

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I'm having a hard time understanding how conservative voices are being censored when they have platforms made specifically for them.

Parler for twitter,

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SafeSpace for Facebook

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and bitchute for YouTube. 

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We even have 8kun for 4chan after 4chan became targeted for their links to shootings. 

8kun has since been linked to even further shootings, but hey, freedom. 

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Kestrel said: 

https://quillette.com/2019/02/12/it-isnt-your-imagination-twitter-treats-conservatives-more-harshly-than-liberals/

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/421238-poll-majority-of-americans-think-social-media-companies-are

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/11/anti-tech-bill-sponsor-white-house-social-media-summit-1586902

To deny this you would need to disbelieve all of the following:

  • You live in a time where there is a massive fear of Alt-right Extremists
  • You live in a time where the vast majority of news stations and social media platforms endorse the democratic party and shun their opponents
  • That a side with an overwhelming lead in power wouldn't unfairly exploit its rival
  • That even the president has passed legislation condemning the censorship of right wing ideals for some valid reasons.
  • That despite there being an abscence of organized Alt Right terror attacks, there's a very zealous witchunt for them and the topic has a major prescence in mainstream liberal owned media
  • And that the shoddy justification for majority of these bans, is that these groups that have no footprint actually exist.

It's been spelled out for you in every way but literally. I encourage you to talk to any right wing person you know about the matter, it's that large of an issue where the community unanimously agrees it's a very real problem.

 I don't think anyone in this thread has denied thusfar that there's some amount of political bias in mainstream platform censorship, only that it exists to the degree which you claim, a new "Red Scare". It's an extreme stance.

edit: Scanned your articles, already saw some problems. Will give them a more thorough read tomorrow and respond.

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I just don't see this censorship other than trump saying it and being proven wrong about it really

 

 

I can't talk to any right wingers tbh honest cos they get all cross about me being a 'lefty' or a 'libtard' and automatically assume I'm too stupid to understand and get butthurt when I don't immediately denounce the democratic party.

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Kestrel said: 

  It seems like you're sensitive to the word "fascist". Have you been called that often?

 I wouldn't mind it but no.

 Do you identify as a fascist?

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I just don't see this censorship other than trump saying it and being proven wrong about it really

 

 

I can't talk to any right wingers tbh honest cos they get all cross about me being a 'lefty' or a 'libtard' and automatically assume I'm too stupid to understand and get butthurt when I don't immediately denounce the democratic party.

I get this shit from both sides, it's really weird. 

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Kestrel said: 

I'll concede at "a massive fear of the opposition". 

Both sides are being really sensationalist, and cherrypicking is becoming the norm. 

Not even. Violence can and has been encouraged by leftist that even half as much would be dealt with if they were right wing. Major figures and corporations were inciting violence with quotes like "No Lives Matter until Black ones do" and "Buildings can be replaced but lives can't". There was no left wing censor spree, there was no call to de-escalate platforms to be family friendly. How can you say this when you cant even put the same shoe on the other foot in multiple instances.

  • A right wing gathering even organizing is instantly labeled that they will be violent
  • A right wing group rioting would be gunned down by the police instantly as a threat
  • A right wing group, holding 6 city blocks hostage would be labeled as terrorist and ventilated by SWAT

Give me one reason to support that both sides are equally doing this to one another.

  • You live in a time where the vast majority of news stations and social media platforms endorse the democratic party and shun their opponents

The Censor chopping at both sets of news stations is a Corporate problem, not a Party one. There's plenty of Right Wing news stations, but naturally they don't represent fascist parties like The Nazees. 

  • That a side with an overwhelming lead in power wouldn't unfairly exploit its rival

Both sides sling shit at each other, and it's not news.  

No, you don't live in a world full of right wing platforms, that openly support right wing ideals,  that are looking for left wing extremists to report and ban

  • That even the president has passed legislation condemning the censorship of right wing ideals for some valid reasons.

What's this one? 

The one listed in the NPR article I listed back.

https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932758/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-executive-order-to-weaken-social-media-companies

  • That despite there being an abscence of organized Alt Right terror attacks, there's a very zealous witchunt for them and the topic has a major prescence in mainstream liberal owned media

There are people who are steering the masses, and it makes sense to isolate who those people are and measure their impacts over larger bodies of people. 

Both sides have them, and it'd be stupid to not keep an eye on them. 

Stop with the duality cope. Left wing extremists cannot even be compared to right wing ones in terms of threat level and what they've done.

It's been spelled out for you in every way but literally. 

So yes, The Mainstream Media and The Main Feed are "in on it" in the sense of The Censor being utilized currently by The Left. The idea of "Removing Misinformation" is terrible, and I've been against this as a matter of my general distaste vs The Censor. 

The Censor is a weapon, and in anyone's hands it's bad. We want The Free Marketplace of Ideas to flourish, which means even nutbars need their platform to speak from. This problem is free of party ideology and ought to be focused on purely over how the tool itself works. 

 I know you get it, I know you see it. But you're afraid to call it for what it is in its entirety because it seems too fatalistic. Something like this, just can't be this one sided. I understand your hesitancy but we really are at this dystopian level.

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