i actually agree with the stance u have on xena and mee. and myself to a small extent. but Freyja's genuine.
I hope one day you'll look back on this whole thing and realise how ridiculous it is XD
I mean, you're basically arguing that you have an incurable mental illness and there is literally nothing and no one that can help you and you're destined to spend your life as a basket case, and I and others are trying to tell you it is not as hopeless as that and you're arguing against us... I'm pretty sure one day you'll find this funny.
I'm only even awake right now because of physical health issues, and I hope it never takes this for you to realise not to take the life you have for granted, and that when you are one of the privileged few to live in a developed country with a roof over your head and lucky enough to have physical health then many things are possible and most issues are solvable.
Turncoat stated: source post
And did you really not anticipate that going to college would involve, you know, roommates?
I'd never had a roommate until college and thought it'd be fine. I'm fine with significant others and (for a while anyway) close friends, but someone who chooses to remain a complete stranger is another story. It makes being in my own safety space feel like it's the same as being outside of it.
#onlychildproblems
Sounds more like #spoiledbratproblems to me.
Again, i'm not saying your parents are bad people, but it sounds like you were the centre of the universe at home, wanted for nothing, they encouraged you to be very introspective and express your individuality etc, you always had personal space and no responsibilities.... and then when you left home and found the world didn't revolve around you and you actually had to, you know, work hard and tolerate others etc it came as something of a shock, as it would.
How would you have survived if you had been born into a family of seven, or in a place or time where it wasn't customary to afford a child so much attention or encourage such individuality? I'm pretty sure you'd have found a way to cope somehow.
Whaaaaat? so your parents use you as a therapist, you've been basically encouraged your whole life to be self-centred and think about things on psychological terms and look for what is different about yourself rather than what is the same.
...I expressed earlier my findings of similarity alongside how much time it took to bump into one that wasn't family.
Seriously, read before jumping to conclusions, unless this is you expressing that it's more of a retention issue.
Ahh, here it is again. Yup, I'm clearly an illiterate dirty traveller with nothing of value to say to you who'll probably rob you blind when you're not looking. Your parents could have done with teaching you to be less of a cunt and all...
You've no doubt been pushed to bring out your 'individuality' your whole life (and I can't imagine the theatre school did you a whole load of good here). And you're seriously wondering why you developed 'mental problems' XD
...yeah forget this, I figured you were just fishing before, but stuff like this makes it too obvious to play along regardless of it.
So whenever someone disagrees with you they must be trolling or have some ulterior motive? Ofc, you're never wrong cos mommy and daddy told you so XD
What you said in the rest of that segment (which is v long to quote) sounds to me even more like a personality disorder than schizophrenia. But at this point so much of your sense of self is tied up in the 'schizophrenic' label that you clearly aren't open to it being anything else.
You seem to be the one more tied up in doubting that it is that than I am in saying that it is. It's like you can't understand that a schizophrenic isn't always someone who burns themselves alive or stabs family members 30 times.
MissC even posted a "myths about schizophrenia" link not too far back. You'd likely benefit from reading up on it instead of thinking that life is identical to how it appears in the movies.
Neither of us are psychiatrists (and neither were the people who 'diagnosed' you with schizophrenia), but as i've said repeatedly (can you not read lol) I have family members with schizophrenia and have done plenty reading on the subject.
You're about as schizophrenic as TK is sociopathic, but at least with her it is in some ways a comforting delusion - no doubt what gets her out of bed in the morning and helps her deal with issues that might just be too painful otherwise. Yours on the other hand seems to prevent you from dealing with stuff and spend your days spouting crap that is in many ways even MORE boring than Judy, which is actually impressive.
Do you think i got these examples off the tv? jaysus, i'm only talking about people i knew, we haven't even got into the realms of urban legends... Anyway, you're entirely missing the point, probably deliberately so it's not worth explaining again. I'm beginning to think you've never actually been around a seriously mentally ill person in your life, just spoilt rich kids with 'like, omg, issues'.
Dat gaslight attempt.
What, you think i'm lying about this?
Your entire approach has been to doubt nearly everything, even stuff with objective basis. You can't seriously now be doubting all of their diagnosis, even the ones from public schools? Next you'll tell me that I imagined their med regiments.
Did you not just spend absolute paragraphs telling me how corrupt the health system is in your country and that kids are prescribed drugs for the slightest thing? Do you think they're all mentally ill?
Yeah, that sucks, but lots of people are like that, it's not symptomatic of mental illness per se. And the thing with papier mache, good lord... You seem to think that every feature of your personality, every 'weakness', every quirk or eccentricity is a feature of mental illness. This whole personality you've constructed for yourself is clearly so tied up in the 'schizophrenic' label that you don't have a clue who you are outside of that. Which is extremely sad.
If you're not going to take this seriously anymore, then I'm going to move onto people who are actually capable of reading and retaining a proper message. It's somewhat frustrating to try to get you to see beyond this rigid view you've built around this conversation, that schizophrenia must be impossible despite the similarities to other subjects, the therapy, the tests, the genetic links, the symptoms themselves...
Go figure that I'd be talking a lot about schizophrenia and how it's tied into my identity here, it's the subject being discussed. If we were talking about video games or gender blending you'd probably say that that must be the core of my constructed identity too.
Ok, this is so much like talking with Judy that it is surreal... i mean 'rigid view', lmfao. i literally just said that to you, are you 'throwing my own shit right back at me'? /sigh.
Aaaaand, just like with Judy, I have finally reached the point where i'm out of patience.
You make a lot of baseless assumptions simply for the sake of getting me to continue to talk, and even though I see that it's pointless it still somehow inspires me to keep repeating myself. You aren't even reading what I'm saying in favor of this version of me that you've crafted, and it's pretty clear why you feel motivated to do this.
Maybe​ this will be my last time responding to you here (it'd be nice, but my talking in here's largely compulsive). Lets see if you actually read it right before jumping all over the place again:
Freyja stated:
I mean, you're basically arguing that you have an incurable mental illness and there is literally nothing and no one that can help you and you're destined to spend your life as a basket case, and I and others are trying to tell you it is not as hopeless as that and you're arguing against us... I'm pretty sure one day you'll find this funny.
Or I'll go nuts and prove myself right to my detriment. Either way, the future isn't now.
I'm only even awake right now because of physical health issues, and I hope it never takes this for you to realise not to take the life you have for granted, and that when you are one of the privileged few to live in a developed country with a roof over your head and lucky enough to have physical health then many things are possible and most issues are solvable.
...cool?
Again, i'm not saying your parents are bad people, but it sounds like you were the centre of the universe at home, wanted for nothing, they encouraged you to be very introspective and express your individuality etc, you always had personal space and no responsibilities.... and then when you left home and found the world didn't revolve around you and you actually had to, you know, work hard and tolerate others etc it came as something of a shock, as it would.
What are you basing this on exactly, the fact that I'm talking about myself right now and that I found it difficult to adjust to having a stranger as a roommate over half a decade ago? For some of this, you really ought to actually research the disorder, as some of those problems, like the "shock" as you put it, would likely be a thing regardless.
Oh, no, you're basing it on the "Speshul Snowflake" theory you threw ages ago and have clung to ever since. It's like you're only reading what you yourself are typing. Thankfully your views are far from viral.
How would you have survived if you had been born into a family of seven, or in a place or time where it wasn't customary to afford a child so much attention or encourage such individuality? I'm pretty sure you'd have found a way to cope somehow.
I'd have come out a very different person, probably less functional at that. Environment is a big factor for the development of this disorder you're so insistent on doubting for the sake of baiting me into continued typing.
INB4 "You are not just your disorder". Obviously I'm not, but that doesn't mean that it's not a factor at all. It's always there in some form to affect things.
Ahh, here it is again. Yup, I'm clearly an illiterate dirty traveller with nothing of value to say to you who'll probably rob you blind when you're not looking. Your parents could have done with teaching you to be less of a cunt and all...
Holy shit you still aren't reading what I'm saying even when complaining about my pointing it out.
I insulted your patience and retention, not your illiteracy and kleptomania.
So whenever someone disagrees with you they must be trolling or have some ulterior motive?
It strongly depends from person to person, but you've made your motives clear.
The ironic echoes by proxy you've been aiming for since the start aren't lost on me either.
You seem to be the one more tied up in doubting that it is that than I am in saying that it is. It's like you can't understand that a schizophrenic isn't always someone who burns themselves alive or stabs family members 30 times.
MissC even posted a "myths about schizophrenia" link not too far back. You'd likely benefit from reading up on it instead of thinking that life is identical to how it appears in the movies.Neither of us are psychiatrists (and neither were the people who 'diagnosed' you with schizophrenia)
...holy shit you still haven't grasped what I've said at all even after this many times. If it's not on purpose... well, I'd prefer to think that you're doing this on purpose instead of it being a lacking on your part.
There were finished psychs among them, one for the therapy, another for the tests. How do you function with this short of an attention span mixed with a repetitious self-assurance made through projecting your own narrative onto what others say? Seriously, you're bordering on the sort of lackings one might expect from narcissism.
I have family members with schizophrenia and have done plenty reading on the subject.
I no longer believe you, at least not since the "It's not real unless they stab people and burn themselves" clause. You strongly misunderstand the disorder, and if it is in your family then either you are embarrassing yourself with your perpetuation of this or your family tree's so much more fucked up than mine that you assume that only the utmost extremes warrant attention.
You're about as schizophrenic as TK is sociopathic, but at least with her it is in some ways a comforting delusion - no doubt what gets her out of bed in the morning and helps her deal with issues that might just be too painful otherwise. Yours on the other hand seems to prevent you from dealing with stuff and spend your days spouting crap that is in many ways even MORE boring than Judy, which is actually impressive.
I'll let you know when I've become a burn victim after I've stabbed a ton of people, alright? Maybe then you'll believe me.
Have I been doing it outside of this topic lately? I mostly see myself talking about backpack suffrage, music, other users, trolling, movies, other websites, Luna, mod stuff, and a bunch of things completely unrelated to this. I don't really talk about this too often beyond a small reference in passing.
If it's really so boring, why did you insist on bumping this topic with three separate replies? If it's really so boring why do you bother? It was pages back after this current run of users made topics, so why go to that extent if it's not worth something? The answer, it is worth something to you: Drama and Gaslighting.
Dat gaslight attempt.
What, you think i'm lying about this?
It's the favorable view over thinking that you could miss the point this many times. I'd rather think you're trying to mess with me instead of fathoming this level of failure being real. It's hard to imagine your "I know people with schizophrenia" message blending with your view of what constitutes one, especially when I'm not the only one who's pointed out how the disorder is not just the Hollywood extreme, with a link at that.
You've hit a point of assumption that's closed off your ability to hear, or you're trying to mess with me. The former is a lot more depressing than the latter honestly.
Your entire approach has been to doubt nearly everything, even stuff with objective basis. You can't seriously now be doubting all of their diagnosis, even the ones from public schools? Next you'll tell me that I imagined their med regiments.
Did you not just spend absolute paragraphs telling me how corrupt the health system is in your country and that kids are prescribed drugs for the slightest thing? Do you think they're all mentally ill?
...you don't even know what medications can do to people, especially kids, who have been on them for years?
Jeez, what do you know about this subject? Your willful ignorance is consistently depressing.
Ok, this is so much like talking with Judy that it is surreal... i mean 'rigid view', lmfao. i literally just said that to you, are you 'throwing my own shit right back at me'? /sigh.
Aaaaand, just like with Judy, I have finally reached the point where i'm out of patience.
Yep, I'm the only one with the "rigid view" here, and you clearly aren't trying to paint parallels for lols.
If this is... seriously you not messing around, I'm sure when you learn how to focus your attention beyond a hand held mirror, you'll look at this topic and nervously laugh at your own failings.
Very little on this thread is 'philosophic'[al] btw.
Pach's rant was. TC's rant leaned that way a few times.
Most of the rest of it was just ranting.
This is a philosophical (ideological) rant:
http://sociopath-community.com/posts/55d03b834680112f2da5015e
Wooster's posts are usually full of them. She argues badly, tho.
So is this. It leans more into the theological/ontological than the ideological rant(s) linked above.
http://sociopath-community.com/posts/55d03b824680112f2da50066
This series was excellent. Batshit, but an excellent example of a philosophical (religious) rant.
http://sociopath-community.com/posts/56deae13d8e80d9218cbe712
This thread was supposed to cover some philosophical perspectives but it turned into an idiot party lol.
http://sociopath-community.com/posts/578749fce08e714d10af00b5
Etzel was also the real deal.
I hated his perspective. Disagreed with him constantly. But the guy was quite the philosopher.
w/e else he may have been, he knew his stuff.
And thanks to him for convincing me to read Nietzsche with a slightly more open mind. I still don't like the taste of 19th century misogynistic rich douchebag, but it never hurts to swallow a little more just to be sure exactly why it tastes so fucking awful :P
