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"I've always loved that about you, Primal :)"

Wut?

The way she can't get her ass whupped in a fair debate with somebody without telling them they're mentally ill social justice warrior trannies who suck jimmy's e-dick ?

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That must be it , Xena. lol

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It matters for identifying when "To begin with" started. 

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The most cited study that the media and yourself seem to love to latch onto without reading is a Swedish study that ended in 2011 and at that time was 30 years old. There are multiple studies that suggest the opposite too, the verdict is very much out on the matter and resorting to "oh the facts are with me" based on reading an op-ed in some tabloid tier newspaper without even bothering to read the consensus on the subject is lazy, stupid and disingenuous. 

 

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885#pone-0016885-t001

Link to the Swedish study that everyone keeps rambling about.

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Primal stated: source post

...most certainly does...lol...

By the way...Jimmie needs you to service his E-Dick....might want to get all empathic over his inner pain....lol...

Sarcasm doesn't play too well through text, so I might ask, are you suggesting that my empathy is artificial? You've said something along these lines once before.

I'd like to better understand how you view me, Prim.

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Cadaver stated: source post

The most cited study that the media and yourself seem to love to latch onto without reading is a Swedish study that ended in 2011 and at that time was 30 years old. There are multiple studies that suggest the opposite too, the verdict is very much out on the matter and resorting to "oh the facts are with me" based on reading an op-ed in some tabloid tier newspaper without even bothering to read the consensus on the subject is lazy, stupid and disingenuous. 

 

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885#pone-0016885-t001

Link to the Swedish study that everyone keeps rambling about.

There are others. 

Simple test. Reach between your legs, Cad. Gender? M/F

If you are 'feeling' other...get therapy...

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ImNotHer stated: source post

How much of the differences between females and males do you think are because of how they're socialized, and how much because of other factors?

It has more to do with genetics than with how we are socialized. Best way to tell is to look at civilizations everywhere. Look at random isolated tribes. Roles for each gender and their behavior are specific, as they are all over in the animal kingdom.

We have different hormones acting on the brain since we are in the uterus. Our sexual behaviors and needs are different. How we tie in emotions with sexuality is different. How we socialize between us, how we compete and react in conflicts is different.

Average man's body is stronger than the average woman's because we evolved with different gender roles over millions of years.

The line between men and women being wiped out is an artificial construct in society, moreso than gender lines being drawn. If this is bad or not is another question. I don't think it is. It's evolution that benefits us, same as with equally artificial laws and morals. Society has more to benefit from individuals of both genders having equal opportunities and expectations, so educating them to fit the purposes of this new conditions (outside of jungle law) is preferable. The bodies and behaviors we have been built for over millions of years aren't useful for the same qualities anymore.

 

Men: Do you remember the first time you were told to man up, be a man, or real men don't... ?

No, can't really remember the first time. I naturally tended to look at other males for models instead of females though. Identifying with a gender is probably the first and most important factor in shaping someone's personality. See who is like you. Mimic that behavior.

 

Turncoat stated: source post

there ARE differences that make us who we are and gender is one of them... different does not mean better, just different...

I never figured you to be this sexist. Not meaning it as a point of offense, but maybe it has to do with your age? 

How the hell did you get sexist out of what Virus said? Sexism has a strong connotation that one gender is better than the other while Virus stated the opposite. I see nothing wrong with what he said.

I agree with the rest. There are individual strengths that are common, and there's a wide variation in personalities, skills, abilities, preferences etc. Making opportunities equal for both genders is a more efficient way to exploit those qualities in society.

That said, a male displaying "manly" traits usually gets more chicks though :D As does a woman who is more feminine and/or motherly, males.

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Edvard stated: source post

It has more to do with genetics than with how we are socialized. Best way to tell is to look at civilizations everywhere. Look at random isolated tribes. Roles for each gender and their behavior are specific, as they are all over in the animal kingdom.

Some gender roles are obviously strongly linked to genetics and biology, like childcare for women and aggressiveness for men. But we've created an extreme web of invisible social norms on top of that, and those are primarily because of our culture and how we're socialized. Just take all the things women have been disallowed to do historically (and are often still discriminated against with). Is that human genetics or socialization?

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Inquirer stated: source post

Just take all the things women have been disallowed to do historically (and are often still discriminated against with). Is that human genetics or socialization?

Socialization leading to wasted potential.

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Definitely. So you do agree it has more to do with socialization than biology, I take it?

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