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Primal stated: source post

Part 2.

For example. If I ran around the forum saying. "Oh the girls are running to Ed, so I'll call them out and be mean to them until they conform to my will !".... I'd feel ashamed. At the same time I can see that kind of behavior to be petty, and it really would do more damage than good if I were actually like that.

It would be stupid...lol...you have some warped views on women, as I have read them... and then again, your experiences with women may very well enforce those views...so...

My views on women are they are just people. A lot of them could use a nice uppercut, but that doesn't mean I want to do that. I'm very fond of them.

The reason why people call me a misogynist, is because of the forums 3rd wave feminists. I say feminism is retarded, and in return I'm a woman hater, and the groupthinkers, just follow along and say I hate women.

In some cases, namely the sociopath/psychopath, as we know, these emotions simply aren't there. Now a sociopath may not want to go around screwing with people, but in society they'll be frowned on over small things. Like moving forward in heavy traffic so someone on the other side of the road cannot turn and not feel anyway about it, though they would curse if someone did the same thing to them.

...lol...that's a lousy example...

That's a modest example. Road rage happens when people do things along those lines.

The conscience is in place, and we can override it with decisions, as we do. But on the most part we don't because there are emotions that will appear and fuck with us.

LOL....excuses already...?  Nah...you make a choice, and Moonshine made an excellent point about emotions and the validity thereof...might want to look at that. 

Still the conscience is in place, and on the most part people avoid it's scorn. This is a matter of fact.

Sure everything comes down to choice

Correct

But in a world where everything is borrowed, all things have a price.

What? Does not tie in to previous statement. Explain the logic. 

Correctional emotion is a price we must pay for doing stupid shit in a place that is only temporary ours to borrow.

Some lack the capacity for correctional emotions.

Again, 'correctional' emotions? Horse shit....this is the same lame excuse clause. 

Guilt and shame are real. They are a preventative for crossing lines. If that weren't the case, we'd never have made it this far.

The kind of emotions from others in the same species that works for your well being.

That does not require nor presuppose emotions. That is a choice. 

The wrong choices don't come without consequence. And consequence is an emotional issue.

This is functionality and forwardness. The best of what we do is done with emotion.

...lol...really? I think not. Empathy/ understanding is not about doing with emotion. It is about Choice. 

 

Empathy is purely about emotion. Without the knowledge of the emotion itself, there is no understanding in Empathy.

Emotion in itself is a very logical thing in an intuitive way. Intuitive, so long as it's not self centered.

The driving force behind the choices we make would be of the will itself. But due to emotions, we don't go around shooting ourselves in the foot on purpose because it doesn't feel nice. That doesn't mean we can't go past the emotion, but in that case, life goes downhill when we border past emotional intuition. Not only will the guilt and shame kick in, but it can also be paranoid, and if the cats out of the bag, you're life destroyed due to employers or clients and family or friends or whatever the case, detaching themselves.

Call it what you will, emotions are correct in a healthy mind. Ignoring them is never wise.

Primal stated: source post

Okay...so we are arguing the semantics of the 'image'

Nope...

I think...it is not physical...rather awareness

We aren't arguing at all... you are right where I am on this

We are unlike anything else' ....not true....we are homo sapiens....the current version in a long long line of evolutionary forces if we are to accept the fossil record as accurate ( and that appears to be reasonable based on carbon dating, albeit I don't buy into some of the theories on the links...too much ego in physical anthropology )

Well, not exactly... we are unlike anything else... check out that second chromosome in comparison to our "closet cousin":

 if you have seen G-d speak, and listened to the message

Mmhmm....oookay...so...You heard God speak..? Were you on drugs at the time..? 

I did not say I heard G-d's voice... I said I have seen Him speak... very different and I have always been very sober...

"...rather awareness....and that awareness is not limited to homo sapiens..."

What else would have this awareness but humans?  And how would or have you come to this observation/belief?

Xena stated: source post

"and let them rule over"

I hear that's a mistranslation. The original was (mis?) translated as "let them have dominion over..." but there is a good deal of debate about the intended meaning in the original text.

Some would contend that the word should have been "stewardship" not "dominion."

You are on point here, X... it was for man to be a good steward over all, not rule as a Lord... nice.

Primal stated: source post

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.  

 

I couldn't tell you if the creator was physically here in a physical body while he was making this shit up, so he made us like he was at the time, Or maybe some Aliens are playing God on us, and they slipped up by saying we're humanoids and we made you like "Us, in Our image" <-- as written.

Or maybe God's preferred shape is human like. 

However....you could say...and most likely be accurate....that someone at some point in time...DID MAKE THIS SHIT UP....and lots of very gullible people grasping desperately for something...anything....ran with it....because it is easier to hand off accountability and responsibility for shit that happens to an all powerful being....while prostrating yourself at the Altar of Hope that by doing X, Y, Z you will be amongst the 'favored'

Sounds more plausible and possible of the New Testament, the Old Testament is really much more philosophical... G-d didn't take the responsibility of David's actions... David did... Jacob got his hip broke, karma?  The Old Testament leaves all accountability to man... no savior back in them days, you had to go and sacrifice an animal just to feel better about yourself... Jesus made it so all your crap could be washed in his blood, thereby letting us no longer worry about a sacrifice.  That story... the savior story... the "you are all forgiven" story... could have been made up, but... really shitty marketing approach for a life of being beaten to death... when they made up the story they were beating these people to death for telling and sharing this story... idk... tuff sale...

My views on women are they are just people. A lot of them could use a nice uppercut, but that doesn't mean I want to do that. I'm very fond of them.

True for both genders. There are only TWO for the record...the rest is mental illness dolled up as "whatthelatestfuckingwonder was that?"

The reason why people call me a misogynist, is because of the forums 3rd wave feminists. I say feminism is retarded, and in return I'm a woman hater, and the groupthinkers, just follow along and say I hate women.

I will agree with you on many points in that regards re: 3rd wave retards. 

Still the conscience is in place, and on the most part people avoid it's scorn. This is a matter of fact.
Conscience implies guilt. Which implies understanding the impact of actions. Which implies....well...not much really...lol...but for some reason it is a bad thing or a good thing...depending on which end of the equation you find yourself. So,...

Correctional emotion is a price we must pay for doing stupid shit in a place that is only temporary ours to borrow.
What?

Guilt and shame are real. They are a preventative for crossing lines. If that weren't the case, we'd never have made it this far.
Does appear to work that way for most...and not for those that preach it though..lol...KWIM?

The wrong choices don't come without consequence. And consequence is an emotional issue.
No it isn't. It is simply shit happens. There may be emotions in some cases, but not all. Shit happens, is shit happens. 

Empathy is purely about emotion. Without the knowledge of the emotion itself, there is no understanding in Empathy.
Wrong. Empathy CAN be purely emotion, but it can also be about physical experience...so...physical pain is not emotional. It is pain. 

Emotion in itself is a very logical thing in an intuitive way. Intuitive, so long as it's not self centered.
Say what...? sounds more like an equation for projections. 

Call it what you will, emotions are correct in a healthy mind. Ignoring them is never wise.
Only when they are valid. Feelings do NOT = Facts. That goes for either healthy or unhealthy minds....or whatever some pass off for cranial matter that they use to do their thinking with...in some cases...I swear it is Swiss fuking cheese. 

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Well, not exactly... we are unlike anything else... check out that second chromosome in comparison to our "closet cousin":

Egocentric perspective....it does not suggest anything unique to me...not in the least. Can pop up another set of of chromosomes and compare...so? 

 What else would have this awareness but humans?  And how would or have you come to this observation/belief?
Good that you call it a belief...based on observation...but nothing I could prove...so...Life. The quintessential spark that animates....that...the awareness of existence and the fight to continue it. It's not unique to humans. Not at all. 

Sounds more plausible and possible of the New Testament, the Old Testament is really much more philosophical... G-d didn't take the responsibility of David's actions... David did... Jacob got his hip broke, karma?  The Old Testament leaves all accountability to man... no savior back in them days, you had to go and sacrifice an animal just to feel better about yourself... Jesus made it so all your crap could be washed in his blood, thereby letting us no longer worry about a sacrifice. 

Mmhmm...Old vs New Testament...prefer the old testament myself....Jesus as the escape clause for man's sins....Pass...

That story... the savior story... the "you are all forgiven" story... could have been made up, but... really shitty marketing approach for a life of being beaten to death... when they made up the story they were beating these people to death for telling and sharing this story... idk... tuff sale...

Well...ya see...he believed he was the Son of God...so either way, his end point was a known....to believe that being a fk up and you/ I/ anyone is going to be magically saved from hellfire and brimstone just cuz you now decide to follow the water walker....prolly not going to happen....even Jesus called for true repentance in actions....not words...so...lol...

Primal stated: source post

Well...ya see...he believed he was the Son of God...so either way, his end point was a known....to believe that being a fk up and you/ I/ anyone is going to be magically saved from hellfire and brimstone just cuz you now decide to follow the water walker....prolly not going to happen....even Jesus called for true repentance in actions....not words...so...lol...

Not really the point... the point being if you want to have presence with G-d, here and now or in the ever-after, you have to go through Jesus the Son... what does that even mean?  Well... I would say one needs to take an empathic look in to the life of Jesus... feel what he felt.. the love... the passion... the caring... and then feel the betrayal, the condemnation, the pain... the forsaken lost... the torture...

Once you have experienced this... your life becomes a whole lot less of a big deal... your cross gets a little smaller...

At some point we have to have faith in something, Prime... even if it is just the idiot in the car next to you as you cruise 70 mph... or the water coming out your tap is safe... nothing wrong with faith...

Primal stated: source post

Mutation is induced by external forces. Deformation you mean. Today they say it's an anomaly. It could have something to do with some thing interfering with the development of the fetus for all we know.

There is also spontaneous mutation. Either that or variables unaccounted for....chemical interference, UV light, what have you. NOT 'deformation' per se...but phenotypically it is expressed as such. Errors in transcription at the level of mRNA, multiple possibilities.

External disruptions will do that. If that's an error what should the DNA do instead of mutating ?

Synthetic and unconscious or biological and conscious, the same rules of randomness apply. Using an inanimate thing we've created is modest, while we and all creatures are far more advanced.

Can work with that. The biological machinery is truly fascinating....human and animal...similar but each uniquely different. 

We breath the same air, and whatever animal we put on the table. It's still more advanced than anything we ever done as conscious beings. You can't work with that, for others it's easy to compare.

It doesn't make sense to suggest "nothing" designed us, while we who are conscious have yet to achieve anything as ingenious as a flea. 

Of course it does! It makes no sense to ascribe intelligent design, when what is observed in practice is repeating patterns of a successful system of potentials.

Why ? Cause of golden ratio ? The two times this ratio was mentioned in the Bible, God was instructing for things to be done his way.

It doesn't make sense for randomness to happen, then happen again and again with a modern estimate of 8.7 million species across the globe. They have the same math. There's no reason to believe a fixed ratio, which happens to be profoundly pleasing, randomly happened to everything.

It also doesn't make sense to argue how we don't get something from nothing, but then make an acception to that rule as far as the big bang is concerned.

Bloody hell...that IS your argument, and now you are contradicting yourself. 

You forget. My argument is how all things in this universe, was put here from another universe, which is eternal. Which is why all materials convert like energy, which is eternal in itself. What we're made up of, is nothing new. My arguments is this and not that.

Some 'argue' the brain renders consciousness. It's unproven, but they are working on it.
LOL....oookay....so...what you are stating, is that...without a brain there is consciousness possible, or life? Which is it? Because clearly there are those that exist without a brain, and others that are barely conscious they exist. Then you have those so strung out on drugs...they babble weird ass shit thinking they are making sense...lol...

The brains purpose is for the true self to experience being, in this case, human. This goes beyond your belief because you rely on man's unfulfilled science to inform you of the situation.

We see people have NDE's where they are resuscitated and they have amazing stories to tell.

Such was the case with founder of analytical psychology Dr. Carl Jung, who had an NDE and was accurately able to describe what the Earth looked like from space, 40 years before the Russians first went there. He suggested life behaved as though it were carrying on, and there was the greater company. And the cases go on. It matter not if it's true or false for people to look into this or not people will shun this until it's proven to them.

Still it's wiser to be agnostic than atheist.

Because sound exists, we have ears as those creatures are equipped with the extended version of such biological instrumentation to suit their dark environment.

Dude...you are pulling this out of the ether...

I said the first time. Only a consciousness can connect the dots between sound, and the ear, and light, and eyes, and everything else.

Us being given eyes without light would be useless. While nothing on us is useless.

Are we to believe an unconscious force conveniently designed us with ears by accident, while the ear's purpose is for sound, while sound also happens to exist ? It's the same connecting the dots with the eyes and the existence of light, and how this gas in particular that we breath is conveniently the most invisible thing which again complements the connection between light, and our eyes.

Accident of potentials that worked. The flaws don't generally survive themselves...if they do....it eventually wipes out without external aid. ( see humans on that)

Accident of potentials like the odds of randomness giving us eyes, and light happens to exist too, aside from the billions of other convenient designs throughout the animal kingdom bound by 1.618 ...... You're free to settle for that.

The only self collapsing wave function, is the mind itself. And it's known that the big bang could only be self collapsing, or else nothing would have caused the movement to spark that. Why believe something came of nothing throughout the whole universe only once ?  Maybe none of it is in a comforting manner. In seeking the truth have I experienced harsh realities that makes it easier to digest another harsher reality. I'm convinced acceptance will make the open flames a walk in the park. 

In the time framw of your existence...seriously....why give a fuck?

You're failing to keep up.

The thing I was referring to more minuscule than DNA that makes up everything, are atoms. Interestingly enough, atoms are mostly comprised of space. That doesn't change in the grand scheme of things so that would make us mostly made of space in general.

All  that solid space, when a crowbar of space smashes the cranium of space and produces PAIN...dunno....but...stick to reality would you?

Atoms being made up of mostly space, is a reality.

There are absolutely issues with Random design. Random doesn't even equate to design or selected functionalities that happen to connected to it's environment to begin with.

So, you are saying mutation is not Random either, and everything is predestined....oookay...well..hmmm...

They are not because the effect of mutation happens from a cause. For this we need enough radiation, otherwise it won't just happen.

Quantum physicists believe the underlying core of all things in existence is pure consciousness.  We never see other scientist arguing with quantum physicists cause not even they can explain it, yet all of our best or favorite technology utilizes quantum mechanics, which not 1 single person can make from scratch.

You gets tons of arguments...and your last statement is without basis nor sense to support the opener...

That's your opinion. Maybe for now cause you don't know anything about this. What I wrote there are facts.

Hm yes. Another thing about the cluster B. Is like the sociopath, they for some reason are highly magnetic and attractive people, and their sexual output is through the roof. 
lol...yeah...they fuck anything for validation...eye roll ...and others not. 

That wouldn't be anything now would it ?

People fall for them hard.
Some do. Others run...they can be fun depending though

That's what many husbands and wives said.

 I can get into the details about this, but in short it adds to how predatory they can be. In my personal case, my safety net was heart break, and distancing myself from someone I was only infatuated with. I still think about her sometimes, it's like seeing a mermaid or some kind of lethal creature from the movies. As we speak, there are people not recovering from these kind of encounters.

Then there was something buggered with them to start with. There is nothing to recover from , other than to get the hell lost and not reengage with stupid for any reason. 

To start with yes. I did say it was genetic in my first post here.

So you'd know laughter is the best thing that automatically happens. I don't know what her side of the story would be. I left that place and rented another place some kilometers away. And she would come and see me.

One time she walked out of the door across from the place I was renting, then we went out to eat. I asked her a 2nd time what was she doing there ? Of course I would be curious cause she used to live next door to me. She then had a fit and started stonewalling me at the table. I just ate my food cracked jokes, and paid for myself. She called countless times after that, until one day she snapped as if that day in the restaurant just happened, and she hit me with the "you don't seem to have known I was upset !"

I'm marveled by all of this but really, I can see people will not recover so easily from any of this. She looks innocent too, and she'll captivate anyone and they will take her side. It's because of her I had to research sociopaths, and I assure you she's worse.

LOL....oh yes....ran into a couple of those...weirdest fking things..online...even more bizarre...

Online ? Nothing beats in person.

As I said. These conditions will make a demon proud. If someone snaps and does the crowbar to the head thing, that's great for satanic agendas in spiritual warfare. Slaughter the beat, and become the monster.
LMAO...no...'satanic' my ass....that is how you deal with bullshit. It is also extremely effective. 

To an immortal being with a raise awareness. That shits ugly and it gets resolved without breaking a sweat.

The cluster B conditions are focused on fucking people spiritually. Few who carry the burden outshine it.

Not possible. That suggests they are something other than flesh and blood and that is all the stupid twats are. Nothing "magikal" about them,. 

You're using words like magical and expressing doubt is all.

You can think it's impossible that the cluster B conditions aren't designed to screw people all you want.

Another demonic check mark. Even if it's fiction to you. It's fictionally correct in that regard.

Fuck the demons, Spatial. Just flesh and blood dealing with a retard on EMO roids...nothing more or less...lol..holy shit!

Again. even if it's fiction to you, it's fictionally correct.

And fuck fucking the demons Primal. This is Tom's thread, we're talking about spiritual stuff, and you came to me.

And Bernie was cheated by the DNC, in rigged elections. You're welcome.

Virus stated: source post

 

Not really the point... the point being if you want to have presence with G-d, here and now or in the ever-after, you have to go through Jesus the Son... what does that even mean?  Well... I would say one needs to take an empathic look in to the life of Jesus... feel what he felt.. the love... the passion... the caring... and then feel the betrayal, the condemnation, the pain... the forsaken lost... the torture...

Once you have experienced this... your life becomes a whole lot less of a big deal... your cross gets a little smaller...

At some point we have to have faith in something, Prime... even if it is just the idiot in the car next to you as you cruise 70 mph... or the water coming out your tap is safe... nothing wrong with faith...

Fair enough...depends where you choose to place it...or it can be your worst undoing...so...

@Spatial....buddy...are you high on some shit or what? 

.....you are not tracking with reality...huge mofo leaps....Logic...use it. It's free.