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Starwhale

What a weird plot XD What the fuck, the imagination some have. Turning whales into vegetables.

Not sure I understood it very well, but loosely this reminded me of a movie called Transcendence with Johnny Depp. Won't say anything else so I don't spoil it, but it was a good movie. Check it out if you haven't.

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Starwhale

Interesting...also Hawking is warning against the development of AI...because...if you were AI..what would you do?

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Starwhale

There's a quote I read somewhere that said natural stupidity is more dangerous than artificial intelligence XD

I can't really wrap my mind around artificial intelligence. I don't see how it can ever match a human's. The humans brains are very complex, and have a chemical basis, with substances running around. Not just electric impulses. I don't know. It is just too sci-fi for me to imagine a computer could ever come close to human intelligence.

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Starwhale

...hmm...good observation...more useful when you can acknowledge it in yourself, no? ..bias is brutal though if ego is allowed to stand in the way..

 

AI learns, that is the danger. And the rate at which AI is progressing is pretty damn amazing...so...it is not inconceivable. The movie premise is uploading a human consciousness...but consider, what is consciousness? At what point...is thinking and awareness separate from recognition that one is Alive?

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Starwhale

Imagine our intelligence is natural stupidity to an AI, the AI deems you dangerous to yourself to mankind and ultimately to them. It is time to die 

Skynet is watching

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Starwhale

the brain computing power is a biological machine that took nature billions of years to build

we build the brain of an, arguably, 4 year old human child in a few years. And we can control a cockroach, like a mind-control machine.

If you look at the time it took nature to build all this and the time that human civilization exists in comparison, we are so much more efficient that i can't even make an estimate, the number is too high. But what this means is, that we will probably be able to create anything nature has. We would need one raw material and thats energy, everything is energy.

 

I think bio-machines will be the future. That doesn't mean that we will need a biological source thought.. we could just make one ourselves eventually, its all atoms and energy at its core.

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Starwhale

Tough questions. Maybe if the AI thing takes off and machines can learn and even feel, humanity will have to deal with issues even more complex that the ones we are facing today, about morality, about human nature, about rights. Will there be AI rights activists in the future? I don't know and don't want to find out, tbh.

But yeah I don't think humans will be able to replicate a human mind using entirely different components than what the human mind uses. If something is just a product of written code, it's not alive imo.

The moral dilemmas of the future will be related to genetics stuff imo. Cloning, human improvement, human/machine hybrids, that stuff. Creating and modifying biological intelligence and bodies is more likely. A "natural intelligence/human brain" in a machine body is way more likely than an AI in a human or machine body. Speaking of good movies, have you seen Gattaca? It's one of my all time favorites :D Fucking awesome, and it really gets you thinking about a lot of things.

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Starwhale

Yes. good points. Bio Ethics feature a great deal in current research as well. Morality , is a religious question mark and one which is continually debated and a best practices agreed upon, however even then, it remains highly questionable if the consideration is life. 

AI rights. That is a conundrum, as it is in the present if people were being reasonable , which is not the case for the most part. 

AI regardless of where it is hosted will become a  concern. The potential for evolution with a machine that does not require rest and can exponentially evolve as opposed to a biological system poses a threat if it were to become aware of itself. 

Yes, Gattaca was an excellent movie. 

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Starwhale

Primal stated: source post

Depends....why are they crying? 

Still not really my problem. The only reason I could see myself bothering is just so that I could have someone to talk to, and the notion of aliens speaking English is purely TV fantasy. 
 

Cadaver stated: source post

people watch this crap unironically*?

Even some of the fans laugh at those who miss that it's meant to be taken that way. You can usually tell them apart by which doctor is their favorite. 
 

Edvard stated: source post

What a weird plot XD What the fuck, the imagination some have. Turning whales into vegetables.

Now when you say vegetable...
 

Edvard stated: source post

I can't really wrap my mind around artificial intelligence. I don't see how it can ever match a human's. The humans brains are very complex, and have a chemical basis, with substances running around. Not just electric impulses. I don't know. It is just too sci-fi for me to imagine a computer could ever come close to human intelligence.

How is "substances running around" superior? 

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Starwhale

Dr who is a show that is not liked for its plot. I like it because its a show about an alien that takes you away from your life and shows you around space and time. I mean it's more about the idea and hope of leaving earth and everything mundane. 

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