Missbehaved stated: source post
Yes when people go to other countries they should know the laws and culture. There was a university student who went to North Korea. This is a place they try to persuade individuals to avoid. Then he got captured for breaking a law. The American government went to rescue him. I do wonder if he should be rescued. I mean he got himself in the country. It is not a joke it is real life.
That is insane. Foolish young man. When in Rome, do as the Romans do or don't get caught if you don't. 200K for getting caught? Hilarious. No thanks. Not for any amount.
Similarly, I would avoid N. Korea, along with any and all Islamic countries. Will Not enter. At the same time and for those same reasons, I don't want Islamic bullshit on Western soil. Borders exist for very good reasons.
Even if you were 'hating' on Islam I'd be fine with it. I certainly don't approve of Islam as a whole.
I don't approve of Islam in massive part at all, pretty clearly. However, there are some aspects which are not bad. The problem with those are the hypocrisy and the extremes when practiced by the more devout. Steal? Lose a hand. Rape? Father and brothers are allowed to kill the rapist ( that is not in the Sharia, but was practiced where I was, but not anymore, that was pretty reasonable though) Sharia is bloody stupid, the woman needs 4 witnesses to prove it was rape? Absurd. Idiot women in the USA are voting for Hillary without a clue to what comes with, simply because they want to exert 'female power" , morons
Like I said it's a spectrum, and you can't possibly help them all even if you'd like to. I'm just tired of the rhetoric that claims all refugees rape and the world is about end. I find it greatly exaggerated and hindering intellectual discussion, just like the pro-immigration side does by shutting down discussion by calling everything "racism".
Some Muslims rape and pillage, yes, but still a minority. But I don't deny it's a definite issue that needs to be tackled.
Well, we have both agreed on this point previously. I did not at any point in time state that' All refugees rape', not once. I did state, that a minority of a minority has managed to shift the crime rate by several points. That is a Fact. ( you still argue that the numbers aren't good enough and call it anecdotal, which is facetious)
It needs to be tackled as the current governments are lying about the ethnicity of the attackers. It is rather blatantly being covered up.
Two friends of mine came back from a trip to Germany in February of this year, they couldn't believe the number of dark skinned people. Were they Germans? They went to Germany to experience the culture and Germany, they won't be returning to visit. It turned into Schluffyville.
Arguing for a stop of immigration is fine, as I see it. There are plenty of valid reasons for thinking we've reached our limit. I would however like a good alternative proposed that will still help them, preferably from a united EU as a whole. One idea would be to help fund refugee camps in countries neighboring the conflict zones. Merkel's Turkey attempt is such a move, though I'm rather skeptical about how that particular endeavor will pan out.
It needs to stop and be reversed. The responsibility needs to shift back to their own, i.e. their own brethren in border sharing countries of the same faith. That doesn't work very well though, due to the non stop haggling between islamic sects and heads rolling. Their own , reject them for the reasons that are occurring in Europe. Islam is a cancer, that is the main problem with it. 1400 years of belief cancer...lol..Cancer is tricky to treat, depends what stage and where it is located. Using the same analogy, Europe invasion is 2nd stage, still treatable, but will need to go for removal of the diseased flesh and Gamma knife and chemotherapy. It will leave Europe feeling sick for a while. Wait 5 years monitor and check the patient.
Yes, that's where we disagree. I'm colored by my personal experience discussing this with other people, where I've found that most do not really have much to back up their claims when pressed. It's very easy to think the world's ending if you only glance over news headlines and never take the time to actually dig a little deeper.
As am I similarly colored, that is the gift of being alive and retaining a functioning memory. What are you wanting for back up to 'claims' , it seems you would rather ignore any and all numbers in favor of 'wanting to help.' Re: headlines, agree with you on that. There is a lot of garbage being posted on both sides. I do my best to avoid the off the wall crud. However, at the same time, with the media being Legally Silenced, it makes sense to tread very carefully with regards to what is made available, as that is biased.
I have friends with first hand experience with the issues too though, some of them immigrants themselves. I'm just unsure of the scale of problems, and I don't trust anecdotes to give me a true and nuanced perspective.
Like most anything, unless you are there in the thick of it, how will you know? You won't. Like being raped. I have no idea about that, but I can tell you, I would not ever want to be raped. That young 17 year old girl with the youtube video was oddly convincing, as heard the same from friends. That is sad. She wasn't even angry, more despondent and hopelessly hoping that the immigrants would get their shit together and Merckel DO something about the problem. { Neither of which is going to happen}
Yes, but you can't really discern anything from the numbers because of that change in definition. You can't prove either way where that spike came from; changed legal definition or influx of high-risk immigrants. Or a little bit of both.
You can use a bit in the way of logical deduction Inky...500% ? Maybe ThenFuckIt is correct? Definition was changed to match the spike? Now you are really in hot water.
Rape is a crime that is massively underreported due to social stigma. I do think one reason for the increase in rapes reported in Sweden is that women here are more willing to report them.
It's good that they are. But, in the end it makes no difference as the damage is done. Rapists have the highest rate of recidivism. Fact.
And in Islam, women will be shit out of luck.