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Eddie's Guilt complex

 

Its very interesting how all the lies are from the politicians that want people to remain in the Brexit and there are so many times the EU has created secret plans that will change the entire union, but wont share them, because it wont be viewed well. Just like a democratic system would, not.

Or how the EU imposes its will on other countries, against the majority voters...

The last concern is immigration and its a big concern too.

 

PS: Non Muslim immigrants are not assholes 90% of the time.
PS2: Having a background check would of solved this altogether.
PS3: You should indeed stop responding to the 'alt red wing', i stopped responding lengthy to pseudo libertarians. All you do is destroy your own democracy.

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Meta, you might feel that the little EU countries get pushed around (despite getting a lot of money from it), but the UK was a big decider in EU matters. They had enough independence, had their own coin, had plenty of concessions made for them. You keep complaining about the muslim migrants, but the UK didn't accept many forced by the EU. The migrants the UK voted against were the ones "stealing jobs" or begging from countries such as yours. I am sure you might know people or even have distant relatives working in the UK. Overall, those people pay more in taxes to the UK than what they get from welfare.

About the "democracy" card - there can't be a true democracy since it's impossible for all the people to be informed and understand objectively what they are deciding when it comes to complex issues. It takes years of economical and political training to get insights to understand the complex mess in the world today. People will vote based on the info given to them by the politicians, and in this case the more emotional information prevailed. "Taking back your country" sounds better than excel tables on the economy, even if it's full of hot air and lacking clear directions of what the fuck happens next.

I've been to Bulgaria so you of all people should understand the difference between your cities with educated folk, and the large regions with poor, drunkard, uneducated villagers. They live their lives extremely narrow-minded with their chickens and sheep and they are the majority in your country. (Not saying in the UK they are on the same level as those in your country, but I saw stats showing that most people who voted for the Brexit didn't even own a passport).  How would you feel if those people took the steering wheel of your country, Meta? And you'd just have to live with their choice?

So let me ask you something, if DIRECT democracy is such a great thing to base important decisions on, why not make referendums asking: "Do you want to pay your taxes?" "Do you want to increase all salaries by 300%?" "Do you want mandatory recruitment of citizens during war crisis?" "Do you want the Church to have a say in political aspects?" Some questions should just not be asked, imo.

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Edvard stated: source post

You keep complaining about the muslim migrants, but the UK didn't accept many forced by the EU. The migrants the UK voted against were the ones "stealing jobs" or begging from countries such as yours. I am sure you might know people or even have distant relatives working in the UK. Overall, those people pay more in taxes to the UK than what they get from welfare.

Thats something i already said in some thread somewhere.

About the "democracy" card - there can't be a true democracy since it's impossible for all the people to be informed and understand objectively what they are deciding when it comes to complex issues. It takes yeas of economical and political training to get insights to understand the complex mess in the world today. People will vote based on the info given to them by the politicians, and in this case the more emotional information prevailed. "Taking back your country" sounds better than excel tables on the economy, even if it's full of hot air and lacking clear directions of what the fuck happens next.

Thats totally irrelevant, unless you do not want democracy lol. People want one thing, but the EU wants the opposite, so the government of the nation does what the EU wants instead of what the people want. Whether thats good or not is irrelevant. Its not democratic. And if you do not want democracy, why are you letting a third party decide your life?! Thats insane. Even a fucking north korean dictator will have more interest in keeping your country better then a 3rd party will.

I've been to Bulgaria so you of all people should understand the difference between your cities with educated folk, and the large regions with poor, drunkard, uneducated villagers. They live their lives extremely narrow-minded with their chickens and sheep and they are the majority in your country. (Not saying in the UK they are on the same level as those in your country, but I saw stats showing that most people who voted for the Brexit didn't even own a passport).  How would you feel if those people took the steering wheel of your country, Meta? And you'd just have to live with their choice?

This is a separate topic related to democracy and how flawed it is. But i'd much rather have them steer my country then some foreigners.

So let me ask you something, if DIRECT democracy is such a great thing to base important decisions on, why not make referendums asking: "Do you want to pay your taxes?" "Do you want to increase all salaries by 300%?" "Do you want mandatory recruitment of citizens during war crisis?" "Do you want the Church to have a say in political aspects?" Some questions should just not be asked, imo.

I do not like democracy. But these are the values of the current western countries. And i argue from a point of view even you would understand.

However "Do you want an independent party, who lacks all kind of responsibility and can overrule your nations decisions, to rule you?" is a good question, for any kind of system.

 

I do like to steal the EU's money. And while we do not join the Eurozone i feel like we could keep doing it. But i think they wont let us for too long. The EU sucks and we should suck its money while we can. But when they eventually pressure us, i hope we do not get any more invested in it.

If the EU doesn't change, it will die, one way or another.

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You are not clear. Are you happy with the deal you have right now between Bulgaria and the EU or do you want a Bulgarexit?

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I want to leave, because i don't trust my politicians wont accept more policies of EU. But if they just pretend to be dumb or play them around for as long as they can, then i gladly approve of the money we get from the EU. They have been doing that with both EU and Russia, but when pressured sometimes they give in.

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Irrational fears directed at the wrong targets.

The best thing to have in this world mess and tensions right now is allies. Isolation is the last thing anyone with brains would want. Divide and conquer.

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Being a part of an authoritarian super state =/= alliance

Leaving it =/= Isolation.

 

Your fears are the irrational ones.

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You're playing stupid pretending not to understand. I meant, how can you believe all migrants coming from shithole countries are rapists, criminals, a plague who don't deserve a chance to live in a better country, while you yourself are one. I'm sincerely curious about the psychology/hypocrisy of it, the cognitive dissonance must be really smth.

LMAO, What are you drooling about now? You have a mental problem, Eddie? 

The victim likely felt bad about the attacker getting punished because he shifted the blame and responsibility from the attacker as a person, to his nurture, to factors that made him behave in a certain way which were beyond his control.

What incredible bullshit!!! LOL...omg. You are for real? People are dumb enough to accept  that sort of tripe/ or you typed that to make me laugh, that's sweet of you. But not necessary. 

You're such an emotional irrational creature. XD I hope you're at least good in bed. (Are you?)
That is your projection. But you slipped in a compliment to yourself, good for you!  Keep working on that self esteem ;)

Source is simple math. 52% of 72% of the UK population is about 37% who voted for Brexit. Renders statements like "the Brits have told the immigrants and the EU to fuck off " less meanigful.
LMAO, you really really need to take a math course. The educational system you suffer from is a riot. 

The Brexit won't magically solve UK's problems because it wasn't the EU responsible for them.
Mother of God! Nothing is a magic cure, you nit

I mean, what fucking politicians do this kind of "mistakes" XD. Not sure what should scare the Brits more, the ignorance/out of touch with reality version or the intentionally lying version.! 

LOL Excellent!  Have you not heard" The Ends Justify the Means!" ...and they are really on the hot seat now. Which is fair. And he will have to DO something or he will get kicked out on his arse even faster. 

So you want me to discuss someone 1500 years ago being a pedophile? It's ridiculous. Not all muslims are pedophiles for the same reasons many things written in the old books aren't observed by followers, sharia included in many parts. Pedophilia is still a thing within Gypsy culture and it has nothing to do with Islam, but with backwards mentality/stagnation/inertia that would die with the right education. Sadly those with better understanding don't put enough effort and care into pulling the right strings to change it.

You could if you want, but it would make no difference. You are exactly correct. ISLAM IS RIDICULOUS as you stated, based on the FACT that it is the 7th Century crackpot ranting of some desert sand monkey that screwed little kids. And you are further correct, with the education of the people of Europe about the ludicrousness of accepting that sort of idiocy as legitimate for a belief system let along a legal system ( see Sharia bullshit law system)

So what you really want me to do is tell you a nordic country I'm not from? Why would I do that. You've been way more secretive about your origins, even after I asked you about them.
Correct the one you are not from, but carry the passport of. If you feel so inclined, you could PM it as well. 

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Eddie's Guilt complex

quit spazzing out captain obvious

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why quit now captain oblivious?

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