same. i carved my name onto an exes arm with my nails.
Cricket stated: source post
Sadism is natural and occurs to varying extents in every individual. It's fueled by the reward mechanisms in the brain. It most it typically comes with observing a competitor or enemy in pain or a bad situation. Schadenfreude is a good example of everyday sadism.
Sadism considered on the more deviant spectrum is often the result of empathy and masochistic tendencies. Pain feels good to the observer and so seeing another in pain empathetically triggers a pleasurable feeling.
Others get an adrenaline rush, potentially resulting in a feeling of power. This can fall in to the everyday sadism category but also might be considered pathological at higher levels.
This was an awesome response. I've never heard it put quite like this before. I'm sure the rest of this thread is the same old BDSM that always ends up on a thread like this one, but this... I'm glad I bothered to read it. Thanks for sharing.
Astamiss stated: source post
1. How do you know she did not think it is amazing that you appear to trust her so deeply? Ah nvm I'll answer this one. I was not in the situation so it's not like I would know. I'll just say she did like to be able to hit someone without consequences or whatever.
There was no trust with this stranger, it was just fun.
2. Does you like seeing someone get hurt if they do not suffer? So you like seeing someone cry out or suffer. I guess this means you don't like to watch people who are masochists? You don't like seeing those who enjoy pain or at least tolerate the pain so they do not suffer much?
Masochists still make noise, still respond passionately, it's just in a slightly different way. Pain and pleasure play a closer relationship than they appear to.
Now, someone tough with deadened nerves? Pointless. I might as well be hitting a tree.
Nyarlathotep stated: source post
Masochist: "Hurt me."
Sadist: "No."
Classic joke.
Turncoat stated: source post
The human body can take a surprising amount of damage. It just takes starting light and getting used to hitting harder as you grow more comfortable with it.
This is very true. The ability of the body to recover is also amazing. I know people who function perfectly despite having been in wheelchairs or even comas for weeks.
Pain has a huge psychological component. After training to withstand pain, it's not the nerves that get "dulled" or lose their function, they can still work just fine. It's inside the brain that the change happens, regarding how the pain is perceived. It only works with the same type of pain though. If you get used to hits it's one thing. An electric shock or a burn can still be a pain in the ass because the brain is not used to that type of pain.
Cricket stated: source post
Pain and violence are both beautiful and intimate. Paired with sex, also a potentially intimate act, it becomes doubly so. I've found most to be readily willing to give up control and embrace masochism, provided they were slowly eased in to it. They could never be taken very far though. For most I've encountered it's not typically a true masochism but the realization that they enjoy giving over power to another.Most legit masochists that I have met have been willing to go further with their sadistic tendencies than those just in it for power or control reasons. Very few appreciate pain for the sake of pain, whether in others or themselves.
The human body is amazingly sturdy and can take a lot of damage before death occurs. Violence is not only a rush but also intimacy during sex. The trust that the one receiving violence or pain puts in the one giving creates a bond. The responsibility of the giver to not do permanent and irreparable damage can trigger nurturing feelings.
Similar happens on the mat during training for martial arts, such as judo, jiu jitsu, or wrestling. You putting and allowing someone else to put you in various positions and situations where you or they could be seriously injured. You're trusting each other to exercise restraint. It builds bonds.
Violence is the highest form of intimacy. Greater so even than sex.
I really like this post and Alter's. The thrill is more often about the power dynamics. We are all trapped inside our bodies, and there is no escape from here. Pain is intimate in that sense, it is an intrusion into the mind and body. It gets chemicals inside a body racing looking for help that can't come.
It's very satisfying to me when I hurt someone in a fight and know he's in pain. It opens a thirst for me to hit him again, harder, and it's a great mental boost. It's very useful to read the signs of pain from body language, so that's why being good at hiding them in turn is a skill worth gaining. Being aware of the opponent's pain makes him more predictable in his moves, fighting strategy, and you know where to target him next to maximize the damage.
Turncoat stated: source post
In Theon's case what was beneath was a more blatant display of a sniveling childish coward, and from the looks of things it didn't require peeling away too many layers (his gift to the Iron Islands was the last straw, and it was one hell of a straw, but he only had like... two or three senses of self before becoming Stockholm-y). He tried to act all strong, but it was transparent for all who saw, while post-torture there wasn't even an inch of room to deny his true nature.
That whole Lord Bolton plot is really fucked up. Tbh, I think that guy is the real sadist type: one who enjoys another's suffering knowing it is suffering, and not pleasure. I think it's an entirely different mindset for someone who knows the pain they are inflicting is well received by a masochist. This is why the entire willing BDSM thing seems a bit unrealistic to me, and more play-pretend. If I get too rough on a girl for her to enjoy it, when I become aware of it I feel compelled to tone it down. Also, the entire thing with safe words, for example. What is the thrill if you can stop, or know that the other person can stop it anytime? I've had only a couple of one night stands where the woman was dominant and I suspected crazy enough to make it believable for me, and the thrill was amazing. Without that edge, the thrill is not that intense for me.
I also love loud sex. I enjoy the sounds women make when I am rougher. None of that fake porn stuff some try to pull out when they have no reason to, you know.
Turncoat stated: source post
I recently had some fun at a bar/club with Crow after she slapped me in public as a means of showing off and expressing affection. This lead to at least three other people slapping the shit out of me after a permissive "Nah really, go for it" was said, showing them to be like a child having found a new toy. One of them in particular, a woman who was formerly playing Pool, felt challenged when I'd look like it didn't hurt to the point of slapping me four separate times with increased force, backing away afterwards exclaiming "THIS IS AMAZING!" with a powerfully large grin on her face and wide, expressive, near-manic eyes.
Hahaha, this is a funny story. The way your brain reacts to pain is unusual. Ofc people want to try it out and see for themselves. Violence towards other people is kinda tabu in society and it's normal many want to try it out without consequences when they get the chance. I still believe there's a limit/threshold past which you're not enjoying it anymore, though. If I met someone with your superpower I would take it as a challenge to find it hahaha
Edvard stated: source post
Turncoat stated: source post
The human body can take a surprising amount of damage. It just takes starting light and getting used to hitting harder as you grow more comfortable with it.
This is very true. The ability of the body to recover is also amazing. I know people who function perfectly despite having been in wheelchairs or even comas for weeks.
Pain has a huge psychological component. After training to withstand pain, it's not the nerves that get "dulled" or lose their function, they can still work just fine. It's inside the brain that the change happens, regarding how the pain is perceived. It only works with the same type of pain though. If you get used to hits it's one thing. An electric shock or a burn can still be a pain in the ass because the brain is not used to that type of pain.
Cricket stated: source post
Pain and violence are both beautiful and intimate. Paired with sex, also a potentially intimate act, it becomes doubly so. I've found most to be readily willing to give up control and embrace masochism, provided they were slowly eased in to it. They could never be taken very far though. For most I've encountered it's not typically a true masochism but the realization that they enjoy giving over power to another.Most legit masochists that I have met have been willing to go further with their sadistic tendencies than those just in it for power or control reasons. Very few appreciate pain for the sake of pain, whether in others or themselves.
The human body is amazingly sturdy and can take a lot of damage before death occurs. Violence is not only a rush but also intimacy during sex. The trust that the one receiving violence or pain puts in the one giving creates a bond. The responsibility of the giver to not do permanent and irreparable damage can trigger nurturing feelings.
Similar happens on the mat during training for martial arts, such as judo, jiu jitsu, or wrestling. You putting and allowing someone else to put you in various positions and situations where you or they could be seriously injured. You're trusting each other to exercise restraint. It builds bonds.
Violence is the highest form of intimacy. Greater so even than sex.
I really like this post and Alter's. The thrill is more often about the power dynamics. We are all trapped inside our bodies, and there is no escape from here. Pain is intimate in that sense, it is an intrusion into the mind and body. It gets chemicals inside a body racing looking for help that can't come.
It's very satisfying to me when I hurt someone in a fight and know he's in pain. It opens a thirst for me to hit him again, harder, and it's a great mental boost. It's very useful to read the signs of pain from body language, so that's why being good at hiding them in turn is a skill worth gaining. Being aware of the opponent's pain makes him more predictable in his moves, fighting strategy, and you know where to target him next to maximize the damage.
A man after my own heart on these points. I began recently paying attention and there does seem to be a significant difference in the experience of pain during training or competition than when inadvertently burning my hand on the stove. The rush and power dynamics really alter the experience. Tbh I never can quite grasp why more people aren't more interested in it, like those you see come in to train for a week and never come back. It makes me wonder where their outlets are. Without it I would go insane.
