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ThenFuckit stated: source post

If you leave your country to live elsewhere, you should respect and adopt the other culture. If you do not want to, then do not go there to live as a citizen and expect the same rights as all other citizens. I do not care who, why or where. Do i need to repeat myself all the time Ed? I have considered everything, no situation where you can try to involve me personally will change my view.

 Most civilized countries nowadays are a melting pot of cultures that learned to live well along side each other. What culture do you "force" others adopt? How do you force those people? Do you monitor them after they arrive, and for how long? What about those already within the borders for generations? Do you want to demolish Chinatown in London, because fuck I love that place.

These things you say show you are completely disconnected from reality, Meta. Thinking about things within 4 walls never gives realistic conclusions or solutions. All this utopic mumbo-jumbo on this thread shows an immense lack of maturity imo, and a failure to understand the dynamics of the population and the current world situation.

If you want exact concrete options, i can give you those. But that would require me to to and sit down and write policies as if i am going to be a politician lol. Do you really think i will spend the time and effort just for you, Eddie?

You want a non vague answer to something that requires a lot of research and thought? Just for some internet forum on the ass of the world?

I can give you one, that's a little less vague, just to humor you:
1. Enforce and make sure that there is a separation of Church and state.
2. Remove freedom of religion.

Islam problem will be auto solved after some time, when you forbid them from practicing it in public.
Now, the separation of Church and state is there to ensure that the Church can't manipulate its new power somehow, but its not a complete separation, as the state will force other religious public practices out, and no mosques(thought we can keep existing buildings and turn them into museums, they look neat).
You can see how even this is not so simple and i can't just make a post explaining everything.

Seems like you have not considered everything and are a hypocrite for attacking me using the personal attacks you used previously.

Edvard stated: source post

Islam problem will be auto solved after some time, when you forbid them from practicing it in public.

Sure, that's worked before XD It is great if you want more martyrs, radicalization and bombings.

 

Thats why you do not allow them in, just like that...

Do you want me to post more policies or what?

Because i wont. FFS Ed, its simple, if you think i guess. Its a natural and direct line of events, ban other religions -> enforce security ->  enforce borders -> retaliate if a country attacks(if they do not claim responsibility, demand investigation and results, or retaliate diplomatically)
Like i cant explain every fucking step for you Ed.

I have said this, to you, before and i will say it again: I am not your president and i am not your political candidate. I wont spend time and effort, just because you want exact solutions, there are many paths and situations to be considered, but the basic principle is the same: Do not tolerate bullshit. Then you apply it and it always works.

If you want a final solution which is plain and simple, here is one, but you do not like it, do you?

Its really easy Ed.
Don't tolerate the bullshit.

Yes, they 'learned', have you read history?

Also, your personal attacks, like always, are irrelevant. Why do you keep trying to use them as arguments? The rest of your post is null, its mainly personal attack.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

Its really easy Ed.
Don't tolerate the bullshit.

That's not politics, that's vague bullshit itself. No wonder Trump does so well with it.

Islam problem will be auto solved after some time, when you forbid them from practicing it in public.

Sure, that's worked before XD It is great if you want more martyrs, radicalization and bombings.

I asked you for solutions to point out they are unfeasible. Any sort of forced separation in the context of a dynamic world is fantasy. They would lead to wars, riots, more poverty, which would only deepen the issues. You can't possibly imagine the real impact of a war and how damaging it is, from your sheltered happy life.

Secularization is a natural tendency of populations which prosper. What percentage of muslim kids would rather go to a mosque than play a video game, if given the choice? The best solution is to provide the best environment to let it happen naturally.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

When you help your neighbor, you put at risk yourself. When a nation takes a risk, everyone are at risk. You can see how there is a difference? And such a huge risk based on good intentions is just plain stupid.

"Huge" is your word though. You can help people and nations out without taking "huge" risks. Don't want to let in a lot of immigrants? Help out in some other way. I might be wrong, but my impression of the eastern European countries is that they're against doing much of anything that doesn't involve fences or the saying "no".

ThenFuckit stated: source post

It means he will not deliberately try to fuck the nation and he will put the nation first and he will not bend over to, say, ErdoÄŸan.

I would enjoy him more if he had clear policies, but seeing how politics are done, i think if he did, he might lose, even if they are the right policies. And mainly because of the media and other political attacks. Politics in current democracies is a game of charm and corruption, not of reason and voting. Although in some western countries, it is better, so perhaps there, he could be more genuine. But in America, he is doing the best he can.

The thing is, you don't know what Trump will and will not do. He might be a well-meaning guy, just playing the game of politics, or he might only be interested in playing with power. Does he mean the things he says? Maybe, maybe not. We can't know, and that's why I wouldn't support him. I think he'd definitely bend over to Erdogan if he thought that'd work out for him, somehow.

Primal stated: source post

Are you blind? Are you seriously kidding me? ...lol..you must be. " Painting""...bad light? Wake the Fuck Up! Are you seriously suggesting that those youtube vids and the news articles are FALSE? Really?

They are not all false but they usually heavily exaggerate the problem. You do the same thing.

Primal stated: source post

Both yourself and Edvard (the radical hug box of the muslim gang) have yet to comment in any intelligent manner on the FACTS. Both are dancing like cats on hot tin roofs. Come up with FACTS to support your arguement. 

Explain Why Europeans should be losing their freedom to walk in safety on the streets? 
Explain why Europeans should be paying out the butt for a fucking mass migration which  is not their problem but one that is islam /self created by the same religious fuckwits they were seeking to escape?

What facts? You haven't provided anything except "Islam is taking over because I can find youtube videos that claim it". By the way, I thought it was illegal to post videos like that? Such brave, brave people defying the evil governments!

"Huge" is your word though. You can help people and nations out without taking "huge" risks. Don't want to let in a lot of immigrants? Help out in some other way. I might be wrong, but my impression of the eastern European countries is that they're against doing much of anything that doesn't involve fences or the saying "no".

Are you kidding? Do you even watch the news? How much is the costing Europe on a per diem basis? Who is paying for that ludicrousness? What of their own people with little to nothing? They are being turfed from their own homes.

The migration is a big problem and I think all of us (including Europe) should help out, which means we're all paying.

Who are being turfed from their homes?

Primal stated: source post

What on earth for? Bend on what precisely? This is yet another generalized nonsensical statement. Usually you come up with better thought patterns. On this topic, it's like you disengaged reason.

You're quite tiresome. Why not reply to my point instead of getting hung-up on specifics?

Trump has a proven record of not sticking by what he says. You can call this smart tactics, good PR or whatever, but at the end of the day you can't trust him to actually do what he's promised. He might be a great, savvy leader, or he might not. He's a gamble, and that's me being generous.

Primal stated: source post

This is not a mentality, this is reality. It is happening.
That is the point. Seems these two are living in some Utopia of 'what if" and 'maybe'.

Show me (supported by facts) that the situation is this dire and I might reconsider my position. So far none of you have done so.