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Don't you think discriminating people based on being muslim ("kicking out the muslim horde" as you put it) would make muslim countries react and kick out non-muslims from their midst? 
 Irrelevant, and they have done precisely that at various points in time and worse.  And it is not 'discrimination' alone. Try not to over simplify. 
They are raping, killing and destroying the very  people and the shelters that the asylum country has provided them with. 

And a lot of tension escalating, with more innocent victims on both sides than simple patience or diplomatic solutions would bring? 
That has not ever worked with Islam . Do you not look at history? This is only a repeat of it. Why do you think Putin is bombing in Syria? IF you were dealing with SANE people, you have a chance, and islam and that brain washed belief system is anything but sane. If you have half a neuron you would know that. There is not discussion with that sort of reasoning. ( much like your own by the looks of it ) When you don't like the Facts, you get all flustered and attempt to insult, but you have no Facts to back up your statement, nor are you able to disprove mine. You can't. They are Reality. 

You imagine politics as a kid, you believe you want something, it happens and that's it. You're not the only player, you know, the other forces can and will make their moves as well. When you make yours, it's necessary to think of all the consequences.

Don't patronize me with your lack of comprehension. You have already proven to be easily led around by the nose. Unlike yourself I don't have a problem with reality. I know what Europe is dealing with. You haven't much of a clue, and that is painfully obvious by the manner in which you leap over the inconvenient FACTS which are right there in front of your face, because they don't align with some preconceived notion you are nurturing for whatever reason. Reality won't cave to your preference of it. It will slam your head into the concrete. That is already happening to Merckel. The joke she has made of herself and Germany is not lost on the Germans. But they are disorganized and that is deliberately so. That will change, and is already changing. But 'peaceful' means don't get much done. 

Other players will move? What a surprise, of course they will. The question is in which direction? The Middle East will be forced to show its hand one way or the other. Then what? It's a surprise? I think not. 

I would like to know your explanation for the lack of open arms to their Holy Brothers of Islam from Egypt, UAE, Yemen , Saudi...they can afford it don't you think? Same religion and culture. But, where are they going? 

These kinds of sweeping generalizations that are designed to paint migrants and Muslims in a bad light do not contribute much to discussion. Islam, poverty and political instability in the Muslim world is a serious issue, and the migrants will import some of that to Europe. And the laws should, and will, change to reflect that.

Are you blind? Are you seriously kidding me? ...lol..you must be. " Painting""...bad light? Wake the Fuck Up! Are you seriously suggesting that those youtube vids and the news articles are FALSE? Really? 

It's still a minority of migrants that causes problems, but that's not the idea one gets from reading your posts.
I don't give a shit how many 'minority' or not. It's a pretty big fucking 'minority of a minority' that are responsible for the chaos and fear in the streets of many places in Europe. It's not some fucking accident. Those numbers are being hidden and white washed for general consumption. The media is not even allowed to report the ethnicity of those responsible for crimes. 

Did you catch the error yet in the logic of your previous post touting the brilliance of immigration into the USA? You completely missed it. The numbers  did not specify the total that were responsible for crime, but generalized it. Add to that, your argument falls flat, as those immigrants are NOT muslim. 

You can call it whatever you like. That is the brass tacks version, based on observation of the bloody obvious. 
You choose to IGNORE , rather obtusely, all the information that is posted. Makes me consider if that  is :
1. Deliberate ( most likely )
2. You really are clueless ( possible)
3. You are bored out of your skull and simply want to drag out your position ( quite probable)

Both yourself and Edvard (the radical hug box of the muslim gang) have yet to comment in any intelligent manner on the FACTS. Both are dancing like cats on hot tin roofs. Come up with FACTS to support your arguement. 

Explain Why Europeans should be losing their freedom to walk in safety on the streets? 
Explain why Europeans should be paying out the butt for a fucking mass migration which  is not their problem but one that is islam /self created by the same religious fuckwits they were seeking to escape? 

"Huge" is your word though. You can help people and nations out without taking "huge" risks. Don't want to let in a lot of immigrants? Help out in some other way. I might be wrong, but my impression of the eastern European countries is that they're against doing much of anything that doesn't involve fences or the saying "no".

Are you kidding? Do you even watch the news? How much is the costing Europe on a per diem basis? Who is paying for that ludicrousness? What of their own people with little to nothing? They are being turfed from their own homes. 

The thing is, you don't know what Trump will and will not do. He might be a well-meaning guy, just playing the game of politics, or he might only be interested in playing with power. Does he mean the things he says? Maybe, maybe not. We can't know, and that's why I wouldn't support him. I think he'd definitely bend over to Erdogan if he thought that'd work out for him, somehow.

What on earth for? Bend on what precisely? This is yet another generalized nonsensical statement. Usually you come up with better thought patterns. On this topic, it's like you disengaged reason. 

This is not a mentality, this is reality. It is happening.
That is the point. Seems these two are living in some Utopia of 'what if" and 'maybe'.

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We are already in wars and riots and poverty because of what is happening right now lol

i wont even comment on the other thing, because i am amazed at how you dont see/know the above ?

 

its just not a total mass scale war, is this what you think will happen? The west/America/Russia will destroy the Muslim countries like they are nothing, if that happens.

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READ the fuckign articles yourself. Or do you need me to do that for you? They are RIGHT FUCKING THERE in front of your FACE. 

CLICK THE LINK THING and READ or LISTEN , try peeling your eyelids open for the videos. That might help....lol

 

 

He's a gamble

He's the best shot going to turn the train away from America. When you grow up a little, you will realize there are NO fucking guarantees in life. 

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I will post later on this again.
in a day or more, but i will
i have changed some of my ideas and i will say why and what and how.

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Great more shitposts by economicly illiterate people. The US government debt is hardly a problem when the cost to service it is at historically low levels. At a projected amount of 544 billion it's next to nothing, bond yields are also at historically low levels (even without QE). At around 1.4% of GDP in 2015 the idea that the US is paying a lot to service its debt is just as faulty as your brain.

 

As for the trade question the total US current account deficit is at 390 billion (2014) or around 2.2% of GDP which is also quite low. 

So even if you were to reverse the whole trade situation which you economically illiterate idiots seem to think is the answer, it would be a drop in the bucket. Also considering the macro trends on a global level that's impossible. 

 

What needs to be taken into account when looking at this who owns the production facilities around the world, the US has about 340 billion higher GNI relative GDP which means the factories are to a large degree owned by US citizens.

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Why don't you provide some sources, and no articles are not sources considering how shit at dealing with numbers news organisations are. I want facts not analysis. 

 

 

 

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The most offensive man ever. I've never been personally offended, but he's offensive none the less. Would not vote for him. I hope he wins though so I have a source of ongoing entertainment. 

Canadian. 

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Inquirer stated: source post

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

Populism ? No, there are millions of anti Trump's out there, millions of them.

I'm not sure you know what populism means. Both Trump and Sanders rely heavily on populism, i.e. they try to sway the masses with emotionally loaded rhetoric.

Of course I know what it means, this is the internet Inq, when I see a word I don't know I will find out what it means in seconds. You said "Trumps policies are populism" and I said no.

A REAL example of populism is how Hillary will change her views just to make others happy. Back then she was anti gay marriage, now she's all for it, and why ? Because it's a movement of the people. Trump doesn't play into sugar coating anything for anyone, he's laying it down raw, and people want to kill him for that.

 

 

Spatial Mind stated: source post

As written in that previous post in the first 2 paragraphs. Trump wants to bring money back into the economy. Maybe by now the national debt limit has been raised 47 times, driving the US deeper into debt based on interest. To be honest, the debt ever being paid off in itself isn't even realistic. What kept the US afloat is the consequence it would have throughout the system. If the system falls, we would pretty much be required to work for free or else we'd be forced to turn on one another for survival. 

The US debt isn't that big of a problem. Balance the budget and let growth eat away at it.

Usually I would indicate laughter right about now, but it's become a bit routine with you.

19 trillion dollar debt is many times the combined debts of the whole world. It's also based on interest, you can't just balance 19 trillion dollars without having to create a poor economy first, it's not that easy. People will be broke, which leads to losing their homes and creating a world of shit.

 

Most people that like or support Trump (and similar authoritarians) have this dystopian outlook on the world, that things are spiraling out of control.

 

I would consider that another blind opinion.

 

This is based on fear and feelings, not fact. There are no indications that the system would fall. Financial crises, sure, but a complete collapse?

When the people learn to work for free and give for free, and not hoard up the goods, then we'd be immune to economic collapse. When recession strikes, and it has many times, people lose their homes, and they go broke due to inflation.

The last recession they called the Great Recession, this was in 2008 and it's effects around the world varied. Took the UK 4 years to recover from this one, though up to this day people's quality of living is still damaged by it. I have a guy that abandoned his home in the UK to migrate here. He maxed out all his credit cards and was buried in so much debt he had to flee to another country for a fresh start.

 

It annoys me that people have so much trouble separating subjectivity from objectivity. An example

"On average people in France think 31% of the population are Muslim, when the actual figure is only 8%. In Australia the average guess is nine times the actual proportion: people estimate it at 18%, when the actual proportion is only 2%."

If you consistently exaggerate various problems in this way it's no wonder a figure like Trump is starting to look appealing.

 

See how you need some other unrelated example to make a point here though ? You can't even say what I've exaggerated because you're doubts rule proper logic. Didn't I tell you you're not a good match for me because of this ?

Before the shit hits the fan, no one will really know about it. You're one of them Inq. If I or people like me said, "hey, your Sheppard is planning to slaughter you" you'd have to learn the hard way cause your so much in doubt even though the facts have been laid out before you, you just don't see it as plausible cause you're inexperienced.

You can't hear it from me, cause only the majority can convince you, just as the majority depend on the reliability of "the big voice in the TV" or the direction everyone else is going before they see anything real or even fabricated. You're one of those.

We all know the US government records everything we say and do via digital devices we ourselves own. We all know now cause it was on the news. I knew that years before you and other sheeple did, I've even been ridiculed for talking about it, and noticed some others never had the balls to talk about it in fear of being scoffed at. This is why I know how the masses are Inq, and I see it in you, and I see it in Ed, I see it in Cadaver.

 

 

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Primal stated: source post

READ the fuckign articles yourself. Or do you need me to do that for you? They are RIGHT FUCKING THERE in front of your FACE. 

CLICK THE LINK THING and READ or LISTEN , try peeling your eyelids open for the videos. That might help....lol

I did, and they're simply not up to par. I'm asking for objective sources that support your worldview.

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I don't know who you are. Are you new? A puppet? 

 

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