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Edvard stated: source post

You say "killing democracy" as if you consider this a bad thing, but support Trump who has all the makings of a dictator.

There you go saying things without pointing out what they are.

He's dominated by power hunger, stops at nothing to have his way, is inflexible, knows nothing about compromise and diplomacy, supports extreme views, can work the masses.

 Hillary is dominated by power and she's hungry for it. She owes a lot to the big fish who supply her with money, and it's in her best interest to obey them. The rest of what you say is your opinion without any example.

Trump already has power. If someone wanted to give him billions, he'd probably accept it granted there's no catch or some favor in return, but why bother take money he'll never spend ? He lived a full life, has everything he ever wanted, and cannot be bribed by any establishment. Trump is "dominating" power as opposed to being dominated by it. Hillary would jump at the chance to have as much power as The Donald. This guy is more loved and hated,  but more liked none the less, moving into the white house means Trump will have to downscale from his much bigger manner.

Spatial Mind stated: source post

Populism ? No, there are millions of anti Trump's out there, millions of them.

I'm not sure you know what populism means. Both Trump and Sanders rely heavily on populism, i.e. they try to sway the masses with emotionally loaded rhetoric.

Spatial Mind stated: source post

As written in that previous post in the first 2 paragraphs. Trump wants to bring money back into the economy. Maybe by now the national debt limit has been raised 47 times, driving the US deeper into debt based on interest. To be honest, the debt ever being paid off in itself isn't even realistic. What kept the US afloat is the consequence it would have throughout the system. If the system falls, we would pretty much be required to work for free or else we'd be forced to turn on one another for survival. 

The US debt isn't that big of a problem. Balance the budget and let growth eat away at it.

Most people that like or support Trump (and similar authoritarians) have this dystopian outlook on the world, that things are spiraling out of control. This is based on fear and feelings, not fact. There are no indications that the system would fall. Financial crises, sure, but a complete collapse?

It annoys me that people have so much trouble separating subjectivity from objectivity. An example: 

"On average people in France think 31% of the population are Muslim, when the actual figure is only 8%. In Australia the average guess is nine times the actual proportion: people estimate it at 18%, when the actual proportion is only 2%."

If you consistently exaggerate various problems in this way it's no wonder a figure like Trump is starting to look appealing.

moonshine stated: source post

For the same  reason why you don't feed a vermin invasion but call out the pest control squad. 

If you consider these people nothing more than vermin then we don't have much to debate. Obviously I disagree.

moonshine stated: source post

Even by the UN's own (!) stats less than â…“ comes from "conflict zones".   Basically it is an economic migration for the resources,  borne out of explosive third-world overpopulation.

Yes, but I still don't see why we can't help them. We can afford it.

I'd rather send them foreign aid than have them migrate though.

Primal stated: source post

Try reality as opposed to your sweetie delusion of ' Interconnected' bullshit. 

German court lets off 'Sharia police' patrol in Wuppertal

Seize Swedes' houses and give them to immigrants!

 

Say it  isn't so!!...lol...

Say it isn't what? A German court that judged according to the law? A random person expressing an opinion very few in Sweden would agree with?

The us vs them mentality is backwards in these days, Meta. We're all interconnected. What happens in one place, will have an impact in another. It's how things are, and will always be. Better work with what you have.

There are plenty of countries where different cultures and religions lived together for centuries. Migration is not a new thing in history.

I am curious, do you think all the non-muslim people living in islamic-dominated countries should be forced to convert to islam? For example, IT people like you who found well paid jobs and made themselves good lives with their family in, say, Dubai.

Say it isn't what? A German court that judged according to the law?

And the same laws are screwing German people...

That is her new Reality. It is not pretty. 

When the laws prove to be shite, they need to be changed. They are not set in stone unless people decide they are. And it is not looking like a lot of people are happy about the current situation. You are being deliberate and doing nothing but repeating the same "belief' of yours in the face of the evidence to the contrary. That is absurd and illogical. You are not experiencing it first hand, yet, perhaps. But by the time you do, it will be too late. 

Europe has a black out on the info that is available...

Mafia have balls...

#1 Rape capital of Europe....lol...

Islam is a living study in Covert Narcissism on a large scale;

1. Shit where you sleep = Fuck up your own country past the point of being able to live there any longer

2. CRY about it to anyone that will listen and threaten to drown your own children from the boats if Greece or Cyprus will not let you land. 

3. When you are let in, bitch and complain about everything. Destroy what you are given and demand more,

4. Change the Laws. Scream "racism' despite the fact Islam is NOT a race, it is a religion. ( fucked up rantings of a total nutter)

Islam is gangrene. If you want to criticize the obvious ( this mass immigration ) it is  now ILLEGAL...WTF?

Don't know about you Inquirer, but I grew up in a fundamentalist Islamic country as a foreigner, I KNOW what Islam IS, and how they think. 

Merckel FuCKED Germany and her people. 

Trump is No fool. He is aware of what is happening, and how he can STOP it from getting a stronger foothold in the USA. Canada has a pussified excuse for babies in government.  Trudeau, the Father of the young Prince of the present , had a set of balls. The son? No. He is a pretty boy riding in on the legend of his father for the most part and good looks. Useless. Islam already has a massive foot hold in Canada. The Laws were changed. 

LAWS can be changed. They are merely constructs, guidelines , suggestions, what have you. They work most of the time, but NOT against insanity...lol...or those that CHOOSE not to respect them. So..

Every time I ask this it gets ignored, but I'll try again.

Don't you think discriminating people based on being muslim ("kicking out the muslim horde" as you put it) would make muslim countries react and kick out non-muslims from their midst? And a lot of tension escalating, with more innocent victims on both sides than simple patience or diplomatic solutions would bring? You imagine politics as a kid, you believe you want something, it happens and that's it. You're not the only player, you know, the other forces can and will make their moves as well. When you make yours, it's necessary to think of all the consequences.

I also ask, in this "banishment of muslims", do you mean banish everyone who declares themselves muslims even if peaceful, intellectual, civilized? And how would you go about it, send "forces" to every muslim living in the US to knock on their door, pick them up and throw over borders? Which borders? What about families where the male is muslim but the female isn't? All this without any reaction from the muslims there or in other countries?

Don't you think that after this happens, people who convert to islam will be too scared to declare but keep practicing their religion in secret like Christians during the early roman times? There are so many problems with this it's amazing you believe this crap is possible.

Primal stated: source post

Say it isn't what? A German court that judged according to the law?

And the same laws are screwing German people...

When the laws prove to be shite, they need to be changed. They are not set in stone unless people decide they are. And it is not looking like a lot of people are happy about the current situation. You are being deliberate and doing nothing but repeating the same "belief' of yours in the face of the evidence to the contrary. That is absurd and illogical. You are not experiencing it first hand, yet, perhaps. But by the time you do, it will be too late. 

Laws that do not work will be changed. What makes you think they won't?

Primal stated: source post

#1 Rape capital of Europe....lol...

Sweden's definition of rape is much broader than most other countries. But why bother being intellectually honest?

Primal stated: source post

Islam is a living study in Covert Narcissism on a large scale;

1. Shit where you sleep = Fuck up your own country past the point of being able to live there any longer

2. CRY about it to anyone that will listen and threaten to drown your own children from the boats if Greece or Cyprus will not let you land. 

3. When you are let in, bitch and complain about everything. Destroy what you are given and demand more,

4. Change the Laws. Scream "racism' despite the fact Islam is NOT a race, it is a religion. ( fucked up rantings of a total nutter)

These kinds of sweeping generalizations that are designed to paint migrants and Muslims in a bad light do not contribute much to discussion. Islam, poverty and political instability in the Muslim world is a serious issue, and the migrants will import some of that to Europe. And the laws should, and will, change to reflect that.

It's still a minority of migrants that causes problems, but that's not the idea one gets from reading your posts.

Primal stated: source post

Islam is gangrene. If you want to criticize the obvious ( this mass immigration ) it is  now ILLEGAL...WTF?

Where is it illegal?

Primal stated: source post

Don't know about you Inquirer, but I grew up in a fundamentalist Islamic country as a foreigner, I KNOW what Islam IS, and how they think.

LAWS can be changed. They are merely constructs, guidelines , suggestions, what have you. They work most of the time, but NOT against insanity...lol...or those that CHOOSE not to respect them. So..

And Islam won't be able to change how the West works. Like I've said, they're 6% of the population in Europe.

If you don't want massive Muslim immigration to your country then that's fine by me but I do think you should propose an alternative way of helping the migrants if that's the case. Calling them vermin etc. is just pathetic and unhelpful.

"Where is it illegal?"

I do not think its officially illegal.

But i am not sure either.

I know that people in Germany lost their jobs and even kids over comments in facebook and Merkel was directly working with Mark Zuckerberg on this, during the first waves of immigration.

Edvard stated: source post

The us vs them mentality is backwards in these days, Meta. We're all interconnected. What happens in one place, will have an impact in another. It's how things are, and will always be. Better work with what you have.

There are plenty of countries where different cultures and religions lived together for centuries. Migration is not a new thing in history.

I am curious, do you think all the non-muslim people living in islamic-dominated countries should be forced to convert to islam? For example, IT people like you who found well paid jobs and made themselves good lives with their family in, say, Dubai.

The us vs them mentality is why people die in terrorists attacks Edvard.

This is not a mentality, this is reality. It is happening.

It will always happen and it will always be here. This is why there need to be boundaries and respect.

Everytime there are different cultures and religions mixing, there is death, destruction, misery, regress and then a new, unified culture is made. Unless the person in charge, tried to centralize the power and culture into one. This is why a lot of pagan countries, back in monarch days, the kings accepted Christianity, to try and centralize the power and unite people under one religion and the result of that: under one culture.

If you leave your country to live elsewhere, you should respect and adopt the other culture. If you do not want to, then do not go there to live as a citizen and expect the same rights as all other citizens. I do not care who, why or where. Do i need to repeat myself all the time Ed? I have considered everything, no situation where you can try to involve me personally will change my view.

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ThenFuckit stated: source post

No, the humanitarian thing to do is only based on emotions. No country ever does anything just because its the right thing to do for another country. If you do that, you will get fucked, because you will be seen as exploitable(because you are). Exploited on your good intentions.

It's a choice, a choice I believe is right. Just like my neighbor can exploit my help countries can exploit each other, but does that mean helping is bad? I think you should help (to a certain degree) when it'll result in something good.

When you help your neighbor, you put at risk yourself. When a nation takes a risk, everyone are at risk. You can see how there is a difference? And such a huge risk based on good intentions is just plain stupid.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

Refugees had their chance to abide. Now its time to move to the next level, since they didn't took any of the many chances they had. It makes no sense to continue to tolerate things that cause more damage then good.

Refugees are not a collective, they're individuals. We should treat them as such.

Yes, we can ask each one individually to change their ways. And only those that refuse leave.

Individuality(as an ideology) is a comfort during normal state of affairs, not a requirement. And we are no longer in a normal state of affairs.

ThenFuckit stated: source post

He is not as stupid as he seemed to me at first and while i do not know what he will do exactly, whatever he does, it will be good for America's nationality. Which is better then almost any politician who has had as much power/influence as Trump recently.

You don't know what he'll do but you feel certain he's the better choice? "Good for America's nationality" is as vague as "Make America Great Again". How can you vote for that? I'm not even sure what it means.

It means he will not deliberately try to fuck the nation and he will put the nation first and he will not bend over to, say, ErdoÄŸan.

I would enjoy him more if he had clear policies, but seeing how politics are done, i think if he did, he might lose, even if they are the right policies. And mainly because of the media and other political attacks. Politics in current democracies is a game of charm and corruption, not of reason and voting. Although in some western countries, it is better, so perhaps there, he could be more genuine. But in America, he is doing the best he can.