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Dear Sugar

"That's because you and I don't talk much. This is nothing unusual, I tend to elaborate."

 You typically dont post, let alone go with such unnecessary, in-depth and inconclusive explanations.

"The measures you listed do not sound very serious at all."

We've been over this several times and this is your only excuse

It's fine, the denial is blatant enough for me to be satisfied.

"It was a share for Motor."

You were justifying that having your sc notebook was beneficial and crucial to your self improvement. That is what my post was referring to,

"I said visual. Meant a photo :/ "

You said "visual footage" this tends to happen when you persist on going through more effort to use an impractical version of the English language

"It was written in a silly fashion but not sarcastic. Someone gave such proof to me, I'd say "I stand corrected, but you still can be bisexual."

The main point that I was implying is that there's no worse way to prove you aren't insecure, than by going out of your way with excessive and faulty explanations.

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Dear Sugar

"Nevertheless, it would be marvelous if you could come up with a well-formed list of traits and explanations, e.g. [ ] seems to be fitting/worthy of consideration because [ ]. "

My main arguing point this entire time, is noticing and elaborating oh potential behaviors of yours that indicate a high possibility of insecurity. I'm not sure how you missed it.

"It was a nice chat aside of the Negroe GIF and you sometimes making an impression of being rude and/or rough with me."

You definitely put more effort into this "chat" than I've seen anywhere else with you. Despite you taking this seriously enough to go through such measures to prove me wrong(posting results of an online test, giving off video footage, proclaiming how great your life is) you choose now to act non-nonchalant about it. Way to try and save some face.

"I do not track my bowel movement, probably because I perceive it as a matter, not fitting to be tracked in a notebook, but I have notebooks for many things in which I take part or posses interest. When did I say that the information was reliable?"

You must have found it reliable when you insisted it was a good thing to model/analyze yourself off of.

"I put out the offer in case someone was concerned about it and I did note that the share would happen in PM and with my agreement."

This still doesn't downplay what happened, that a private person felt obligated to share video information about themselves to disprove an accusation.

"I honestly doubt that some member remembered me telling some newbie in PM about being a mod.I did tell Dexter that I was a mod and urged him to spam once, constantly telling how he is a failure at that. I could have also said something like that to some newbie in the public chat while goofing around, which might be what Alena remembered or thought she did. Other than that, if it came up, it was not brought up by me and I clarified them that I wasn't. So yes, I am sure."

I'm inclined to believe Alena, especially since you completely agreed with her and said you were saying what she was all along.

"What? It would be the bestest proof o.O"

At this point with the counterpoints you've made, this almost didn't come off as sarcastic

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Dear Sugar

You definitely put more effort into this "chat" than I've seen anywhere else with you.

That's because you and I don't talk much. This is nothing unusual, I tend to elaborate.

Despite you taking this seriously enough to go through such measures to prove me wrong(posting results of an online test, giving off video footage, proclaiming how great your life is) you choose now to act non-nonchalant about it. Way to try and save some face.

The measures you listed do not sound very serious at all.

You must have found it reliable when you insisted it was a good thing to model/analyze yourself off of.

It was a share for Motor.

This still doesn't downplay what happened, that a private person felt obligated to share video information about themselves to disprove an accusation.

I said visual. Meant a photo :/ 

At this point with the counterpoints you've made, this almost didn't come off as sarcastic

It was written in a silly fashion but not sarcastic. Someone gave such proof to me, I'd say "I stand corrected, but you still can be bisexual."

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Dear Sugar

I'm glad the tl;dr disease has been sufficiently quarantined to this thread.

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Dear Sugar

I'm not. I mean I know nobody's forcing me to read this stuff but damn! Better go get some hot cocoa before I start the next one. And maybe a week's worth of food :P

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Dear Sugar

It would be more productive if you just spent that time looking at porn.

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Dear Sugar

Mee stated: source post

wow. touchy subject huh? what i can take from your statement 'regardless of the taunting and poking attempts' is that however bad, insecure or inexperienced this makes you look, it is but a mere grain which pales in comparison to the horror of the truth regarding you and girls. i mean you're pretty indifferent to most subjects but you've written an entire disclaimer on how you will refrain from having any type of discussion regarding relationships.

I consider most interpersonal matters as more private. I mean, I always walk to a secluded area to answer a phone call, do not let anyone peek at my phone/computer screen when other people are involved, etc. I did not elaborate on my friends either, boyfriend girlfriend relationship seems to be even more private. It was nothing bad :D

considering you wanted to kill your mother this would have been especially interesting..something that is a rarity when it comes to you :D

lol. You keep bringing that mother bit, why? I mean, the event itself revolved around me starting to contemplate that killing her would solve the issue of the annoying gibberish I had to listen to. The fact that she is my mother, i.e. somewhat closer person, made me think more about it. I mean, I have beaten some peers when they breached the limit of my patience (though I got away with it by not being a regular bully and explaining how they provoked me). Usual conflict would go something like this:

Mother returns home, starts shouting something. Mee looks at her demeaningly and provides some remarks, thus making the situation worse. Mother gets tired of screaming and demands Mee to go sit in a couch and begin discussing the matter.

Mother: You did not do ... and ..., behaved in a ... way, therefore you will not go to the school trip (or some other punishment).

Mee: thinks a little bit okay starts pondering how he will spend the holiday

Mother: [something something], you are forbidden from attending the school trip.

Mee: I have heard you the first time you said it, no need to repeat.

Mother: [something something again], most of your peers do various things to appease their parents so they would let them go on the trip.

Mee: Well... I didn't. No trip for me. continues planning

Mother: [more somethings] It is necessary to socialize, so I will allow you to go...

Mee: [interrupts] I don't really care if I go or not, so get to the point.

Mother: I will allow you to go if you do ... and ... (and so on). 

Mee: makes a very expressive thinking face makes eye contact I think I could manage ... and ..., but ... and ... are major deal breakers.

Mother: agreeing but trying to appear in control Let's agree on it, but you have to rethink your behavior.

Mee: sure... stands up, goes halfway towards where mother is sitting can I go now? eye contact

Mother: yes.

Mee then goes to his room and does his bidding. Mother goes to have a smoke, drink some alcohol from the bar. Comes to Mee's room after a while, hugs and apologizes for being angry. Mee says that it is okay but he is not too fond of the cigarette and alcohol scent. Mother leaves the room.

curtain closes

Other times and later on we would go straight to the discussion, skipping the shouting part, which used to make me annoyed and her angry.

only explored relationships in your teens though? why am i getting the image of a 10 year old mee awkwardly standing on the opposite side of the playground as his 'girlfriend' and never having had exchanged a single word directly to her 

No relationships of such caliber or interpersonal coitus for almost two years (since I started studying).

you say you're not gay, so perhaps you're asexual? is that something you've ever considered?

I am not actively gay. I could be anything. On the other hand, Jimmee rp does not make me aroused, so maybe it is not an area worth exploring.

so on one hand you talk openly about wanting to kill your mother and father, something i would assume you wouldn't want her to ever find out..and on the other you say ex gf's you had as a teen are too intimate an issue to discuss here? on an anonymous forum? something's not adding up mee..did you get your heartbroken? wait no, you're schizoid so...i doubt that would even be possible..perhaps it was one of those cruel high school jokes where the girl pretended to like you and then laughed at you?

how can you be ok talking about murdering your parents & exposing your dick amongst other things and then want to protect 2 insignificant relationships of girls you most likely don't even speak to, girls who have probably forgotten you exist and girls who don't even know they're being discussed?

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Dear Sugar

You typically don't post, let alone go with such unnecessary, in-depth and inconclusive explanations.

I would suggest you look up the very first post of this thread in which I clearly implied that I am going to be open for penetration. Also, I typically don't post much in threads, but not in general. Still, I used to do it a lot in the past, so it's not anything new and most certainly not your achievement.

I would like to point it out that you involved yourself just after I mentioned that you were behind one of the traits in the list (though the trait itself is utterly silly) and continued interacting with very noticeable eagerness, as evident by you replying with "get to that" seconds after I mentioned in the main chat that I might as well reply to Ken since I am home. You weren't active at all in the main chat until that point. You bringing up "I'm thinking about Kenny;  He can't for real interpret things like that" completely out of nowhere is another example.

We've been over this several times and this is your only excuse

Do I need other excuses? I don't think I do.

It's fine, the denial is blatant enough for me to be satisfied.

I'm glad you're pleased with yourself.

You said "visual footage" this tends to happen when you persist on going through more effort to use an impractical version of the English language

I like how it sounds. Also, I did think about removing the list shortly after I posted it due to it being fairly personal and, as I've said, quite a few things were left unmentioned for public reading. I mean, however contradictory some things in it were, they were used to describe me, thus the list provides some input about me. Maybe more than I would share myself. I conducted that some people might have made copies at that time, so I just left it there. But it's okay. I mean, it is not a very significant thing after all.

The main point that I was implying is that there's no worse way to prove you aren't insecure, than by going out of your way with excessive and faulty explanations.

And I have said that you are free to think whatever you want about me. It is sufficient proof for me if I ever were to come up with the idea of insecurity myself.

Lastly, your latest replies were very repetitive, clinging onto the same few very specific and, as stated before, not too meaningful things, so it seems that we ran out of things to discuss. Thank you dearly for your participation. You're dismissed.

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Dear Sugar

"I would suggest you look up the very first post of this thread in which I clearly implied that I am going to be open for penetration."

Open for criticism if anything would mean your responses would be shorter in length, requiring you to actually be receptive, considerate and accepting of it. You've done the exact opposite, why is that so hard for you to understand.
 

"Also, I typically don't post much in threads, but not in general. Still, I used to do it a lot in the past, so it's not anything new and most certainly not your achievement."

You typically go through these efforts to prove a point? I see why you stick with indirect and passive aggressive remarks, this clearly isn't your thing.

I would like to point it out that you involved yourself just after I mentioned that you were behind one of the traits in the list (though the trait itself is utterly silly) 

The entire list is utterly silly and yet you were insisting it was still a good idea to start changing yourself over it. Typically when an insult is issued one gets sent back.

"continued interacting with very noticeable eagerness, as evident by you replying with "get to that" seconds after I mentioned in the main chat that I might as well reply to Ken since I am home. You weren't active at all in the main chat until that point. You bringing up "I'm thinking about Kenny;  He can't for real interpret things like that" completely out of nowhere is another example."

I'm damned by my lurking and fast typing~

This really just adds to the joke really, seeing how both times you were mentioning me without my presence.

"Do I need other excuses? I don't think I do."

Simply proclaiming I'm wrong isn't a very sturdy defense, you dont need anything I'm glad you continue to make the denial more evident.

"I'm glad you're pleased with yourself."

Are you implying I forced you into denial : b

"I like how it sounds."

You mean, you like how it makes you sound

"Also, I did think about removing the list shortly after I posted it due to it being fairly personal and, as I've said, quite a few things were left unmentioned for public reading. I mean, however contradictory some things in it were, they were used to describe me, thus the list provides some input about me. Maybe more than I would share myself. I conducted that some people might have made copies at that time, so I just left it there. But it's okay. I mean, it is not a very significant thing after all."

Exactly why should I give a fuck, what correlation is this drawing to any of my points

"And I have said that you are free to think whatever you want about me."

Yes, it's been your main defense

"Lastly, your latest replies were very repetitive, clinging onto the same few very specific and, as stated before, not too meaningful things, so it seems that we ran out of things to discuss. "

This is the funny part really, because as I said this basically in my previous post. My replies are only getting repetitive in response to your same excuses that you still feel hold water. I've said clearly before that any past instances would be brought up if they have relevance, what exactly is your reasoning for bringing up the same defense each time despite it being contradicted? Oh, wait:

Mee: Do I need other excuses? I don't think I do.

Typically when you disagree with someone's point you provide ample reasoning as to why that logic is faulty, you apparently liked to overlook this or just couldn't

"Thank you dearly for your participation. You're dismissed."

This is the funniest thing I've heard you say yet. I'm sure it gets tiring getting hit with the same points and not being able to respond to them adequately despite them being reiterated each time you ignore them with shit excuses. You can take your leave Mee, I proved my points to the users still reading this tl;dr despute

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Dear Sugar

so on one hand you talk openly about wanting to kill your mother and father, something i would assume you wouldn't want her to ever find out..

I do not see a point to mention it since I have handled the situation well by myself. I have, however, told her once that I am not too eager to go to jail as I would prefer the freedom, so she could at least try to be less hysterical. I thought I had to tell it and I also noted that I would not do such a thing for the reason mentioned.

how can you be ok talking about murdering your parents

I shouldn't be okay talking about it? The way I reason it, I did not choose my parents, they were just here. And I do not feel much entitlement for them for some reason. I mean, other children telling their parents that they loved them always baffled me. Moreover, we had a talk with my mother some time after my father died in which I explained that I was relatively okay about it because the way I see it, the only thing that changes is I do not experience new events with him, thus no new memories are formed. But I had lots of pleasant memories from the past (like I have said, we got along very well), so I was contained. But then again, I think that I actually am closer to some of my friends and was a bit more sympathetic to my grandfather while he was alive, even though people pretty much exist to me only when we are interacting. Sometimes I get into a mood in which I want to go outside all of the sudden. Taking nightly walks while listening to music seems to do the trick sometimes, other times I sit and ponder which story I would like to hear, which mind to probe into, and call a friend, best fitting my needs of the time. We walk around the old town and chat. Maybe go to a movie sometime later, if it was decided prior. Usually a day of such interaction keeps me satisfied for quite a while.

Anyway, it is safe to assume that I am not too empathetic and emotionally attached to others, however reason lays behind it. It sometimes bothers me and I have in fact made various excuses, whether it would be me having some sort of a disorder (NPD, SPD, ASPD, etc.) or just being purely intellectual, which trumps my emotional involvement (INTJ is a very cozy shell for that matter). I believe that it makes me miss out on some things. Still, aside of that, I am very pleased with my past life, myself and where I am right now, so it is more of a pondering subject than a serious matter.

As for the SC interaction, I have poked into most of the members and settled with a select few after some time of chatting. Despite some disagreements have occurred with some of them at one point or another (to which I take full responsibility), I believe that I am quite attentive and neither party is displeased.

One more thing in regards of the mother. It always annoyed me how she would come to me and apologize after throwing a conflict. In my mind, one should not do something s/he is going to regret afterwards and if it happened, there had to be a solid reason for it, thus the act of apology is a bit irritating. Instead one should remember the past and act differently in the future. I had noted it a few times, but my concern was not taken into consideration, so I just kept it to myself for the most part. I understand that she needed to be reassured that she is merely doing her work as a parent and wanted some hugs and appreciation, but it still used to irk me.

& exposing your dick amongst other things

While it is a bit intimate, it does not seem to be exposing for as long as I am not walking with my cock out in the streets (and I don't do that), at least I was not concerned in the slightest afterwards and still am not concerned.

and on the other you say ex gf's you had as a teen are too intimate an issue to discuss here? on an anonymous forum? something's not adding up mee..did you get your heartbroken? wait no, you're schizoid so...i doubt that would even be possible..perhaps it was one of those cruel high school jokes where the girl pretended to like you and then laughed at you?

and then want to protect 2 insignificant relationships of girls you most likely don't even speak to, girls who have probably forgotten you exist and girls who don't even know they're being discussed?

While my parents were not a thing I chose by myself, such relationships happen by making a mutual decision. Trust and other things are involved. Because of that it seems rude of me to discuss the people who agreed to get more intimate and I am very hesitant to do so just to elaborate on the matter. There were a few times such things slipped and I am not fond of it at all.

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