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Erm... Chaotic evil is an extreme character alignment.

That's why the "evil" category is broken down into lawful and neutral categories as well.

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I thought I explained this already. I don't take words on a forum personally any more than I take dirty dishes personally. It's incorrect and needs to be corrected and that's all.

So where did TC get that idea? lol nvm. If you're willing to change your assessment, I don't need to know. Unless you 2 have some time to kill and feel like explaining it? 

And I spent 2 years in university. I spent 5 years in college. I actually got a diploma out of that deal :P

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why don't you want to take ownership of the post you put up? the list may have been put together by both of you, but the last paragraph asking for feedback was just you as far as i'm aware, why are you so insistent that TC have some responsibility?

i'm not sure if i would still see it that way if psychopathy were taken out of the equation, but your memories of childhood did kinda seem ODDish to me.

and crow, we all learn things when we're young that we don't necessarily remember learning. you or i could have learned 'humans are unreliable or unpredictable' and not be aware of it until years later, or never. so i wouldn't presume to know what is in anyone's subconscious mind, or what is the reason for their preference for animals over people.

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I am familiar with most of them, however as TC pointed out, it's about core motivations, not method.  You don't have to burn villages like Callisto and plant bombs like the Joker, to share a few very basic character traits.  Do I think you're like Dex?  Of course not.  But do I think that your actions tend to root from a vaguely similar way of processing the world around you?  Yes.  I wouldn't say I'm much like Mr Delta, but he and I are in the same category.  Posting pictures of characters who fit the same alignment as you is not a definition.  As for your demands that I type out a definition, I already have.  Please use that two-year college education Xena.  If you know how to read, do so.

"The lawful to chaotic spectrum represents the need and inclination for order vs freedom.  The good to evil spectrum represents self-serving motivations vs altruistic motivations."

Chaotic evil is not meant as an insult.  You're only one alignment spot away from me.  We're both chaotic, and I personally take pride in that.  Good and evil in this context is not about saving the day or twirling a mustache and cackling.  It's about functioning.  Most people are neutral or evil, because that's human nature.  Taking care of oneself, living in your own perspective.  The only reason I don't consider myself evil with neutral tendencies instead of straight neutral, is because of my completely ridiculous and impractical love for animals.  Perhaps we labeled you wrong.  Perhaps you are neutral.  But from what little you and I had spoken in the past, and from TCs input as well, our best guess was chaotic evil.  It's a shame you're taking it so personally.

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I am not exactly sure why I chose those alignments. It just feels like them.

If you were really evil, you would want whites (which includes you) to have special benefits over blacks (which doesn't include you).

I want racial equality. I don't want 'blacks cannot be racist' taught in school textbooks. I don't want colleges choosing blacks over whites just because of a superficial trait like skin color. You seem to be quite fine with it. No offense.

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If I made the list myself, don't you think TC would have said something to that effect, instead of letting me give him credit for my opinions? : /

I remember the conversation you're referring to, but not the details, nor which thread it took place in.  If you happen to know where it is, could you link me?

Regardless, without a clear memory of it, I can safely say that I believed I was psychopathic for a year or two, as a teenager.  But my understanding then was minimal.  The more familiar I became with the disorder, the more I questioned it.  I know I've repeatedly stated that while I'm quite certain I fit some of the criteria, I also know that I don't fit all of it.    And being unsure of the priority of one set of criteria over another, I have no idea whether or not I'm diagnosable.  And since I don't consider it an intrinsic part of my identity, I don't really see it's relevance to my alignment.  Without considering psychopathy at all, would you still say you see me as chaotic evil?

Thing is, I haven't really been hurt much, by people.  I just never cared for them. : /  I mean, I enjoy them.  I like being social, people are very stimulating.  But I don't feel anything about their wellbeing, unless I have a practical reason.  Even with people I'm close to, who matter to me, when they're in distress or pain, I usually feel utterly disinterested.

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You seem offended.  If you're not taking it personally, then why does it matter?  Why does it "need" to be corrected?  You could always just let me be wrong.  It's not hurting anything, is it?

 

Keep in mind, this list was written months ago, so I don't remember any of the actual conversations we had about anyone.  I'm not even sure how much of your placement was my input and how much was Turncoats, so you may also be interested in consulting him further, on this.  However, I can tell you what I think right now.  You strike me as chaotic, because you don't seem to adhere to a system of judgements, on yourself, others, or situations as a whole.  You exist in the moment.  When you're writing or reading a post, you're taking into consideration what's right in front of you and how you think and feel in the moment, and tend to disregard what has been said by you or others in the past, how you may feel in the future, and the dynamics of what goes on outside of your own relations to people.  You also seem to be to be somewhat of an aimless rebel.  You don't like the structures around you, either in the real world or on SC, but it seems like you're not sure how to go about dismantling them, what you would replace them with, or even if you care enough to bother.  If you believe an authority figure is wrong, you simply won't recognize their authority.  You are about your beliefs and ideals primarily, and the structures around you are secondary.  In these ways, I see you as a freeform thinker.  As for the evil alignment with neutral tendencies, I don't necessarily think you're doing anyone any harm, but I think you would have the potential for it, if it suited you.  Caring for others, being kind and nurturing may suit you, but at it's core, that's still about you.  You seem to see life through a limited lens, and that limited lens revolves around your own psychological wellbeing, as it does for many others.  Like I said, it's human nature.  I think you have neutral tendencies, because I don't see you as 100% self-serving.  I think you're natural inclination is to think of yourself, but if push came to shove, I believe you could be very self-sacrificing for a select few people.

Please note, as I've said before, I don't know you very well.  We've had a few conversations here and there, and I've seen you around the forum a bit, but that's all.  I never claimed to be an expert on you.  You're perfectly welcome to help me understand you better, by explaining why exactly you disagree.

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Yeah. She asks for feedback and then tells us we're taking shit too personally when we debate her.

smh

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Telling me I'm Woosters pawn is debate? XD

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at first i thought it was kewl, but it is starting to look suspiciously like bait due to the agenda she seems to be pushing. one, to challenge TC equally when he made no such comment about wanting feedback, nor did he put up the list...two, to seem exasperated when replying having invited feedback. i'm willing to remain neutral (lol) for now

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