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You mentioned seeing the list as only mine.  I responded to you.  The back and forth continued.  It didn't seem forced to me.  Just a conversation.  And the only thing I suggested you question TC about, is whether or not he took part in making it.  Not about the content of this list itself.  The only reason I suggested that, is because at first, it seemed like you were saying I was lying about him being involved at all.  You've since said otherwise.

I don't know.  I'm only so familiar with the disorder, and even less familiar with you.

Just about every way I'm capable, with limited time and money.  Though as I've gotten older, I've definitely learned the art of balance between taking care of myself and taking care of animals.  I bought some really nice salmon yesterday,  Had an impulse to give the whole thing to the stray cats in my backyard.  Ended up being reasonable and splitting it with them. : P
Probably.  I've never been in that situation, so I can't say for sure, but I would expect that sort of thing from myself.

this was my response to your list: "i only just looked some of these definitions up and i think mine is inaccurate, although i'm still deciding which one i would be. the desc for chaotic evil sounds more like a sociopath/psychopath which i am not, and you are self-proclaimed lol, so i would rethink your placing of yourself also."

this was part of your response: "As for my placement, TC and I both found it exceedingly straightforward." i just didn't see how that was in any way relevant, as again, TC has not asked for my feedback, you have, and furthermore my comment was related to your own admission of viewing yourself as a sociopath (not in your teens as you earlier stated but perhaps 1 or 2 years ago in the quote ed posted). i was asking solely about you, not TC.

In that instance (which is the only one in which I brought him up without prompting from you), I mentioned him for the sake of objectivity.  Me making an assessment on myself is one thing.  Me and another source coming to the same conclusion, is more solid.

the reason i wasn't really interested in his contribution was because i wanted an answer from you that pertained to your own statement that you thought you were a psychopath to the alignments. also i was just correcting you cos you said i brought him up first, but i didn't.

"I can safely say that I believed I was psychopathic for a year or two, as a teenager.  But my understanding then was minimal.  The more familiar I became with the disorder, the more I questioned it."

also how can you be 'only so familiar' with ASPD (for the sake of not typing out all three each time) when you thought you had it way back in your teens, then took the time to look into it and decide that you were no longer sure?

I'll continue this in another comment box bc breaking up my replies tends to cut down on those awful 5 character responses. (tl;dr UGH. I hate those.)

 "You don't like the structures around you, either in the real world or on SC, but it seems like you're not sure how to go about dismantling them, what you would replace them with, or even if you care enough to bother." 

I'm fine with the way SC works. I've poked and bickered long enough with everybody here to see the consistency in their idiosynchratic relating styles. I'm fine with it or I wouldn't have come back.

The real world sux. I do a lot of manipulating and lying to get past the assholes and the crap out there.

"If you believe an authority figure is wrong, you simply won't recognize their authority."

Nice. Most people don't catch that. You are absolutely correct.

  "You are about your beliefs and ideals primarily, and the structures around you are secondary.  In these ways, I see you as a freeform thinker."

Ok... I'll take it. But I will point out that my beliefs and ideals come from years of study. They are derived from legitimate schools of thought, and much more workable than crystal_richardson's utopia babble. :P

Hell no, the structures around me are not secondary. They are where I live. I can daydream about castles in the air, but if I live in a mouldy hovel, I must admit it to myself and scrub the place down and take other precautions against the kind of disease that could set in due to my circumstances. * metaphorically speaking, of course.

Ok. Let's start with this. You see me as chaotic, and I agree. But I have a few little quibbles with a few points of what you've stated as why. Nothing serious. I hope we can get past this part quickly.

"You strike me as chaotic, because you don't seem to adhere to a system of judgements, on yourself, others, or situations as a whole."

I do have a core set of ethics, but yes. They turn on a dime when I believe a confrontation has happened, or is likely to happen. 

"You exist in the moment.  When you're writing or reading a post, you're taking into consideration what's right in front of you and how you think and feel in the moment, and tend to disregard what has been said by you or others in the past, how you may feel in the future, and the dynamics of what goes on outside of your own relations to people."  

Huh? Didn't you just call me paranoid for mentioning smthg somebody said to me in the past? 

Also, I'm well aware that there's a big big world out there. Not sure how you interpreted my comments about the years I spent in school, hitchhiking across country, parenting my kids, my age, the things I saw and the people I met when I was homeless. But it was all put out there to demonstrate

experience

Yes the world is big. How will I feel about it in the future? Idk. I have to deal with that when the future turns into the now, don't I?

"You also seem to be to be somewhat of an aimless rebel" 

No again. I'm a liberal feminist. My human rights are codified in law. For the most part, I'm satisfied with what's in Canadian lawbooks. There are a few points that I could tweak, but I know precisely what they are. Nothing aimless about it. I am also well aware that what I don't like about the system where I am won't be changing any time soon. I put up with what I put up with bc it's not going to change, and it's not awful enough to get in bed with some politicos who might change it into smthg much much worse.

Check out our Marxist Party. Those people are nuts. lol

So yes. I agree that I'm Chaotic. I do prefer a certain amount of order, but much less than what my teachers, family and social workers have always preferred/ stated as a requirement for normal functioning. I'm probably not as chaotic as I appear to you.

I am not neutral evil. You don't know me -_- (super scary mean face)

The World would be a much better place if people not only neglected things, but provided reasonable alternatives in addition to that.

Oh, my bad then. I just had the impression you thought I was labeling you when you responded to me with this:

"I sacrifice a lot for other people. I guess it is a little insulting to have that alignment label foisted on to me. If I were chaotic evil I'd have no kids, 2 abortion scars I never talk about, a successful career as a prostitute and thief, and a moderately wealthy 3rd husband to pay my bills after the other 2 died mysteriously, wouldn't I?

I like to believe that I have a little more integrity than that."

And lastly:

"As for the evil alignment with neutral tendencies, I don't necessarily think you're doing anyone any harm, but I think you would have the potential for it, if it suited you. "

Absolutely. But it wouldn't be about me. If I'm forced to do harm, it's always about the greater good. It also upsets me to hurt people. I mean to truly hurt them physically, financially, legally or professionally.

I do have feelz  :$

"Caring for others, being kind and nurturing may suit you, but at it's core, that's still about you.  You seem to see life through a limited lens, and that limited lens revolves around your own psychological wellbeing, as it does for many others.  Like I said, it's human nature."

Absolutely not. I'll ask you for further clarification here. Maybe I'm reading more into this assessment than you'd intended.

 "I think you have neutral tendencies, because I don't see you as 100% self-serving.  I think you're natural inclination is to think of yourself, but if push came to shove, I believe you could be very self-sacrificing for a select few people."

Actually my response to this statement probably rests on your clarification of the last statement. I see myself as chaotic neutral with good tendencies. The test sees me as true neutral, so I'll take it.

I will also point out that I experience a full range of human emotion and empathy. I've never considered myself sociopathic. Neither have any of my RL friends, doctors, etc. It troubles me deeply to do harm. If I must, I always try to concentrate the rage at the correct target and only do what's required to teach the target, or remove it for the sake of protecting others.