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Your Believed Alignment


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While there's been multiple instances of alignment quizzes, less often has there been simply asking what alignment someone believes themselves to be. To assist, here's the alignments demonstrated as tropes:

Lawful Good
Lawful Neutral
Lawful Evil
Neutral Good
True Neutral
Neutral Evil
Chaotic Good
Chaotic Neutral
Chaotic Evil

For an easy (lazy) guide:
Good vs Evil: Selfless vs Selfish
Law vs Chaos: Order vs Freedom

So, where in the spectrum do you believe that you fall, and what is it about you that sticks you there?

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Your Believed Alignment

When I take those quizzes, I always get Neutral Evil. 

Where I believe I fall, however, would be Chaotic Good. I value freedom and self-determination, but rarely at the expense of war.

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I almost always get (True) Neutral on that alignment quiz.  I think there was some other one that gave me Chaotic Good.  I believe I would be closer to Chaotic Good or Chaotic Neutral.  Freedom is more important to me than vague ideologies of good and evil.  The natural world isn't based on moral ambiguities.  While good is generally whatever is mostly beneficial and has least negative-impact, things are almost always skewed individually, culturally and by a whole host of intricate and probably-unnoticed variables.  Anything that interferes with choice is seen as the evil in my view.  We can play games around that all we want, but it is still the only thing that we "have" and the only thing that we can "take" from the Great Big Recyclotron of the Cosmos.  I don't have to make sense.

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I'm never sure with these alignment quizzes. On one hand I'm inherently selfish when I think im able to earn progress towards my ambitions, on the other I can/have been known to be incredibly selfless and protective. I value the laws I set for myself, although they are generally viewed as morally righteous by most I wouldn't think twice about committing crimes if I could justify it to myself. I appreciate and have a high respect for order, taking it upon myself sometimes to enforce my standards onto others all the meanwhile being okay under another's rule if I saw it as similar/superior to my own moral code. I also am a bit of an anarchist, prepping/hoping for the collapse of society to ultimately dodge the responsibility of being successful. Although I crave a chaotic environment, the main appeal is to instill order and remain orderly among the chaos. Ultimately seeking the vigilante role in a crumbling world and I wouldnt have any guilt or mind if I was the one who set the fires in place.

I score true neutral, but I see myself as either lawful evil or chaotic good. Whatever one I am depends on the circumstances and triggers around me.

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Alignment: Neutral Evil

You do whatever you can get away with. You are out for your own self interests. You care little about those who you hurt, no matter what the cause. You have no love for order and don't believe that respect for laws, traditions, or codes of conduct make one better or more noble. On the other hand, you are not restless and have no love of conflict. You are the stereotypical “Malefactor.” You represent evil without variation or honor.

Word for word, this is entirely true for myself, although I do not truly believe in a black, grey, and white morality axis; morality is purely subjective and is entirely based on context.

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chaotic neutral.

 

a lot of the things i do are selfish, and i don't usually go out of my way for others. most of my life i live in my own interest.

sometimes i do things that help others, though, just because i don't see any point in harming them, when i could help them.

i think that if it came down to it, in a critical situation, i would be equally split between helping others and myself. 

 

deciding between chaotic and lawful was easy, lol. every part of my brain and the way that i live my life inherently hates authority. i can't even keep my own room clean for chrissakes. chaos ftw

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"Do you ever find yourself concerned for those who aren't a part of your agenda, of your needs? If some stranger is drowning in a lake, do you feel any urge to save them, or would it have to be someone who is close enough to you, like your target? If they aren't close enough to you, you strike me as the sort to prefer to leave them alone unless it somehow hits you in a very specific set of "principles".

Someone I'd have to know, you're right about the principles as well.

"Based on past stories about yourself, I'd go as far as saying that your "selfless acts" might actually lean closer to being selfish, serving your own ends instead of theirs through the notion of "principle" instead of anything connected to morality. While you might do something that isn't purely selfish, the reason for it likely isn't as selfless as it'd be for those who lose their shit to tragedy expressed over the news."

Right on that as well. Past issues are the primary root of why I'm fiercely loyal to my long term friends. Although with my current perspective, I don't see my actions as any different than what would be considered normal selfless acts. In my eyes everyone gains something, there are a few exceptions but most people act out and help others because they too would feel discomfort/unease if they didn't.

"So in other words you're willing to destroy what you believe to be a flawed system in order to replace it with your own system, as opposed to allowing the chaos to continue? That sounds more like rebuilding than enjoying the lack of structure."

There's definitely a rebuilding aspect to that if dealing with others, but a larger part of it stems from the sheer challenge. In a post apocalyptic event I'd preferably be alone, alone to enforce my own standards on myself while under constant threat and pressure. It's a chance to prove/justify I really am what I see myself to be. It's mainly about self-validation. As bad as it sounds, I'd set the world in flames for a chance at one massive ego boost.

"You strike me as inherently Lawful Neutral."

 Completely agree, didnt see that type.

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Tests keep planting me in True Neutral lately, but my long assumed alignment from both myself and my peers has been Lawful Evil. Crow seems to think that I'm more in line with Lawful Neutral (with evil tendencies), but she's only seen who I am when she's around as opposed to the sort of person I can be when a significant other isn't there. When dating someone who's broken through enough barriers (usually through exciting my masochism), a different side of me comes out. I fit the role rather well through my need to manipulate things by nature, even when that need gets in the way of my own desires.

Lawful: I prefer to work within structure instead of clashing with it. Liability and responsibility are things that keeps me in check, plus my representation of "Chaos" is expressed through insanity instead of freedom. I need structure to keep myself together, as without it I am an uncontrollable mess with no ability to discern between what is and isn't real. The connection I have to life isn't really too tangible unless I work extra hard to keep myself grounded, so for the sake of my sanity I have little choice in the matter of where I must be for the axis of Law vs Chaos. Pair that with OCD/OCPD alongside a pre-planning mindset that helps me compensate for a lack of improvisational skill and you have the tendencies that express an obvious predisposition that show why chaos is not comfortable for me. I need this to function, even if Chaos is at points an ideal that I wish I could teeter towards more comfortably from it's promise of a lack of smothering restraints. Lawful to me is about being constantly on guard, constantly prepared so that I won't risk breaking apart into something worse.

Evil: I am self serving to the end and don't mind admitting to it. More often than not, admitting to that truth instead of aiming to hide it serves to have others understand and relate to it instead of attack it, become surprised from it, from having to figure it out for themselves. It's in human nature to serve yourself since one's understanding of the world is done through your own eyes (something that others around me tend to adopt the longer they are around me), plus a nihilistic lack of faith in anything greater than myself gives me no reason to change that. I don't aim to step on any toes, but anything that I do for another often serves my own purposes primarily. I don't aim to be a jerk about it, but if no one matters in the grand scheme of things, why should I care more about them than myself? Sure I get invested in other people's problems, but what I do in lieu of another is only to support my own supply, my own needs, my desire for stimulation, leverage, and social nourishment. When others are struggling my first inclination is to think "Not my problem" and move on, as to do otherwise is far too much effort and liability risk. In some cases, helping another serves to deprive them of an important lesson, which in turn enables weaknesses that they're better off without.

Trope-wise I am a Type 2, but used to be closer to Type 1 from believing that no one knew what was good for them, that without me they'd never learn anything. These days I prefer to let others make mistakes on their own and just offer advice (that compliment my needs) from a distance while building a safety net around myself to avoid trouble I can't handle coming my way.

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"On one hand I'm inherently selfish when I think im able to earn progress towards my ambitions, on the other I can/have been known to be incredibly selfless and protective."
Do you ever find yourself concerned for those who aren't a part of your agenda, of your needs? If some stranger is drowning in a lake, do you feel any urge to save them, or would it have to be someone who is close enough to you, like your target? If they aren't close enough to you, you strike me as the sort to prefer to leave them alone unless it somehow hits you in a very specific set of "principles".

Based on past stories about yourself, I'd go as far as saying that your "selfless acts" might actually lean closer to being selfish, serving your own ends instead of theirs through the notion of "principle" instead of anything connected to morality. While you might do something that isn't purely selfish, the reason for it likely isn't as selfless as it'd be for those who lose their shit to tragedy expressed over the news.

"I also am a bit of an anarchist, prepping/hoping for the collapse of society to ultimately dodge the responsibility of being successful. Although I crave a chaotic environment, the main appeal is to instill order and remain orderly among the chaos. Ultimately seeking the vigilante role in a crumbling world and I wouldnt have any guilt or mind if I was the one who set the fires in place."
So in other words you're willing to destroy what you believe to be a flawed system in order to replace it with your own system, as opposed to allowing the chaos to continue? That sounds more like rebuilding than enjoying the lack of structure.

You strike me as inherently Lawful Neutral. You follow a code, a set of ideals you've set for yourself and tend to defend others based on your own beliefs instead of "good" or "evil". You admire how those with power are able to wield it, but you don't really go much further than that. You also are obsessed with self-control fairly often, seeing times that you breach that as you being beneath yourself.

Your idea of "What is Right" strikes me as devoid of what is good for yourself or others, but instead of overarching concepts that are independent of that. You focus more on matters of strength through control as opposed to good vs bad, having strength itself be the true measurement of someone's character while a lack of structure is seen as baseless behavior, a weakness on their part. If they are strong, they control their destiny instead of just going with the flow.

Within that, you seem like a Type 3:

A Type 3 follows a personal code, including those that have been organized by another — for example, a warrior code or a religious creed — or one they have constructed for themselves. They will obey this code rigidly and to the letter, and it will usually supersede (but make allowances for) any of the other types, but it (or their devotion to it) is too rigid for them to be considered Chaotic, even if it puts them at odds with the established system of law and order, while they lack the moral or immoral conviction to be considered Good or Evil. At their best, they will obey the spirit as well as the letter of their codes, or at least try to or recognize that they must, but at their worst, they can become a Principles Zealot or a Tautological Templar who puts their own code — and their own interpretation of said code — above all else.

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Going by TV Tropes, I'm Type 1 Neutral Evil. I either don't have the forethought to consider the moral significance, or less frequently so I simply just don't care instead about whether or not what I'm doing is "good" or "bad" if it occurs to me to think about the moral significance of what I'm doing. I'd rather let weighing the pros and cons of doing something sway me then something that is often vaguely defined.

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