Mirage says:
"Plagued by people with nothing to do with their lives. I like it better when people had a story to tell, now it's just gay trolling and who plays 'the game' the best."
I agree.
Ed says:
"Forum's never been worse than now imo. It's being ruined by autistic spastic posting of mainly 2 people, Sinister creature and Eduhard. Even now, the chat I see is a "monologue" of Jim talking to Eduhard that goes like [insert the pic Ed posted]. Individual blacklist doesn't work, others keep replying and being dragged to their level. I know good posters who have given up on the forum because of the autists that have taken over, and this will continue to happen unless those who have the power to do something will finally take action. I am amazed how you people can put up with shit for so long. If the admins took it on themselves to mute the two retards on sight instead of giving them chance after chance, the forum would be a much better experience for non shit-posters."
TK was given moderation abilities by Luna for various reasons. TK had a laid-back stance, and even people who didn't like her generally agreed she was a good moderator. Moderation passed on to TC while I away for a while, and he's had a very laissez-faire attitude toward moderation. That was the stance people agreed he should take, when he asked how should he moderate. He's stuck to that laid-back attitude very clearly as it was laid out.
The logical consequences of how the community agreed it should be "managed" has led to this thread. We can see that perhaps there may have been an error in judgment, or perhaps that it was not entirely clear how "laid back" things should be. The chat and threads have turned into a stream of immaturity and stupidity. That is why compared to months or a year ago, the quality of the forum has taken a dramatic drop. And I doubt many people who have been here for half a year or longer would disagree, except to play the contrarian. And then when some of the more interesting personalities do drop by, they leave rather promptly when they see the state of the forum. Note the part of Ed's post I put in bold lettering. What he was talking about there is exactly what I was just talking about.
Now Luna, I know that when you want a visitor and prospective member to see your site, you don't want them to see what looks like a bunch of teenagers from 4Chan let loose on a forum without restrictions. Remember that one thread where everyone was posting their excrement, and you deleted it because you want to attract visitors, not repel them? Don't you think half of the time when you look at this site, it looks in general more repulsive than that one thread you were disgusted by?
Online said:
"Hm, for starters this place has always been kind of .. , but with all those autism offsprings who follow their underlying needs to be acknowledged and the self absorbed teenagers who tries way to hard improving their lacking selfersteam. I would say this place has reached parhetic"
Now Online may not participate in discussion much as he prefers to observe, but he's been here for a while (longer than I have), and he is in concord with everyone else when they're saying the forum looks absolutely fucking retarded right now. It is literally purposefully being shit on.
Ret said:
"The forum is worse than ever.
As Ed said it's because of retards like Jim. While we probably still have a constant flow of new people visiting the forum the atmosphere here determines who will stick around and who will leave.
Currently I am waiting for SC 2 to get finished and for the implementation of the idea Turncoat mentioned and maybe other measures that are supposed increase quality. I have the intention to make more threads and posts then.
There have been many interesting people drawn to this place. I think it has a lot of potential that could be used if Luna gives us the appropriate tools."
Personally, I don't think Jim is a problem, when he sticks to his one account. Jim stirs up people purposefully, but that's part of why people stay around in the first place. Because it's fun to watch people fucking with each other. If the consensus is he is too obnoxious, then ban him. But I think he's fine. That he feels the need to to use puppets to express extremely immature aspects of his personality is very peculiar to me, but whatever.
It's up to everyone who has the ability to affect how the forum operates to decide the direction it goes in. Now Turncoat was prompted to make this thread, because many people (including myself) have complained that what used to be an enjoyable place for conversation (and perhaps a bit of cruelty) has metamorphed into something utterly asinine.
Most of us that were enjoying ourselves were a bit more socially conscious, and find absolutely no amusement in the extremely juvenile discussions and antics of what everyone who has been around for a while has been complaining of in this thread.