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"I sure as hell know that if you with your hair is walking on one side of the road and a black was walking on the other side they'll stop him everything single time as opposed to stopping you."

"So far anyway I've been stopped sooner each time. Being white with long hair walking around at night screams "Drug User", which is much easier to excuse themselves for thinking than a matter of race." 

Have you ever read your history of the "War of Drugs"? XD Oh boy TC I am disappointed in you man. 

Read on Nixon's campaign when he began this "War on Drugs" or better yet how Reagan then continued it? Oh man XDXD 

 

http://www.amazon.com/The-New-Crow-Incarceration-Colorblindness/dp/1595586431 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-alexander/the-new-jim-crow-how-the_b_490386.html 

There you go TC. I do hope you read the book and understand how the War on Drugs was really just another political scheme. : ) All the ads linking black to drugs and drugs to crime, simplify that equation and it becomes black=crimes. 

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by Serena

I dated a cop once; I really thought I'd needed a fuckeen restraining order. I called it off around 20 times. And he kept on researching people I knew and told me not to associate with him or her. Kept coming over.... even though I told him this ain't gonna work, find another gal.   I have a couple of family members that are cops; there cool. But I'm bias towards them.  But most, I believe, can be somewhat psycho themselves,  egocentric ( on a power trip) and narcs. themselves.  

 I would like to date a cop....the information they must have access to.

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Oh come on Pray. The black community just totally picks the wrong events to riot on. That guy who got shot in the UK which sparked the UK riots, and the Rodney King guy in LA. They were the worst criminals out there. Repeat offenders. Probably responsible for killing their fellow cops one too many times.

Sure race is an issue, but point the finger at tax payers and their mandate to clean up bad areas at the same time.

 

When cops have mandates to fill, such as reducing crime in an area, people become targets, and when you are aiming at crime, then yeah racist cops become an issue. The amount of police that can occupy some areas over others is not entirely justifiable either.

 

 

Anyways, somewhere in here are probably the real race and discrimination and violence statistics. The real question should be, is a white cop more prone to beat the shit out of a black person being arrested over a white person being arrested. On average.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialto

California police use of body cameras cuts violence and complaints
Body cameras worn by police in Rialto, California have resulted in better policing – and now other forces may follow suit

But Rialto's randomised controlled study has seized attention because it offers scientific – and encouraging – findings: after cameras were introduced in February 2012, public complaints against officers plunged 88% compared with the previous 12 months. Officers' use of force fell by 60%.

You know who is to blame pray, are the masterminds that pick and choose which news stories to break. Only my opinion.

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Amerikkka

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Edit - sorry: double post.

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I think a lot of Americans are becoming fed up with the police in the States.

They are insane down there. I remember a news segment detailing a drive by shooting of a hollywood producer, and the news segment said they were raising money to give to the police to help them solve the crime.

That is how fucked up they are.

 

It's like Dick Tracy and Mobsters, extortionists, bribes and informants. Does art imitate life, and vice versa.

Air Said,

Love the way you keep going back to edit your response btw. This must be getting under your skin on some personal level.

No, I save often, it is some kind of OCD bad habit. I save after every minor edit. I consider myself fortunate not to be in jail for something trivial. Which would be the case if I were in the USA or the Philippines. Whoops I think I confused the phillipines with someone else. I can't remember who has the worst prison system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate

Seychelles 868
United States of America 707. See notes below.
St. Kitts and Nevis 611
Anguilla (United Kingdom) 543
Virgin Islands (USA) 535
Barbados 529
Cuba 510
Belize 495
Rwanda 492
Russian Federation 470

U.S. jails becoming debtors’ prisons

http://o.canada.com/news/u-s-jails-becoming-debtors-prisons

WASHINGTON – Angela Albers’ troubles began in 2008 when police nabbed her for failure to stop at a stop sign.

She was fined $1,550 US and had to pay $1,399 in court costs. But that was only the beginning.

Because she was unemployed, she couldn’t make the $90-a-month court payments. The court issued a warrant for her arrest, tossed her in jail for 21 days and then charged her another $200 for the warrant fees plus a standard 12-per-cent interest for nonpayment.

I mean would you rather be in a foster home than in a prison system?

 

Look at these costs... I'm sure it's different everywhere, but... your freedom is white collar big business.

Federal inmate cost soars to $117Gs each per year

http://www.edmontonsun.com/2014/03/18/federal-inmate-cost-soars-to-177gs-each-per-year

As of April 14, 2013, 579 women were incarcerated in federal prisons at an annual cost of $211,618 each, according to the document.

They could have just taken her license away, but where is the profit in that?

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by Pink01

How do you guys feel about police officers?

I personally do not like police officers. I never have, I never will. I don't care for the respect that they receive in this society because I don't think they deserve it. It is quite irritating I can go to starbucks and the cops in front of me don't pay for their $10 coffees. It's not the coffee, it's just the meaning behind it. Protect, serve, etc. No. This kind of behavior strokes their egos and in turn they think they are Godly figures. I mean really, have you ever questioned a cops power? They don't really like it. At all.

I don't believe in running to the police to solve your problems, or any problem really. I have lived in several different areas, and the cops where I live now I like a lot more than other places I've been - however I still find them to be a burden.

Anyone understand me? lol. I don't believe in public law enforcement. If you want protection, you are welcome to hire someone.

I have no qualms with the pow-pow in Australia. On the few occasions I've been arrested they've been easy to manipulate as long as the arresting officer is male. The last time I was arrested I even had the females laughing, which according to my daddy and, frankly, everything I've ever read, should be impossible because police officers tend to be wary of opposite sex arrestees. They think we're manipulating them (and they're right, but what's to stop a same-sex arrestee from manipulating you?)

The first time I was ever interrogated by two police officers, my sister was being interrogated at the same time. Because we were minors we had to have a parent accompany us. Now, my sister was doing some seriously illegal bullshit so I didn't give her a chance to talk unless the officers asked her a direct question (the informant, a school teacher, had told the pow-pow that my sister wasn't intelligent enough to pull off whatever the fuck she was pulling off, but that I was. Except my sister WAS guilty of all charges so her retarded teacher had clearly underestimated her. Now, I may have pulled the switch that turned my sister from angry to Borderline, but I didn't do nuttin' else).

They sent a male and a female to work with us. I ignored the male and worked on the female because she had seniority over the male according to her rank and my father had taught me how to speak to the pow-lice. It took me twenty fucking minutes but I got her on my side. The male had had the opportunity to observe us by then and so he'd figured out what I was doing, so he became quite hostile to me but I'd convinced them both that I had no fucking idea what they were interrogating us for and my sister got off with a warning for some extremely severe (I'm talking, four years in medium security prison for an adult) charges. I got nothing. My mother said, after they left: "I have no idea what you two are up to, but you" - she pointed at my sister - "need to shut up and let your sister talk when you're being interrogated because you could've been arrested just now and she saved your ass." That's when I knew shit was getting real: my mother never used the word "ass."

I think a lot of Americans are becoming fed up with the police in the States. I have not yet been to the States so I don't know if your sentiments are accurate but they sure as hell sound similar to what I have heard from practically every American who's ever talked about the police in their country. There's resentment towards the police in every country I've ever visited except for some of the Scandinavian countries and the central European countries (Germany particularly). The German pow-pow have struck a perfect balance: people, citizens and tourists alike, are aware of their presence and they know better than to try to do stupid shit in front of them, but they don't generally feel the need to fear them. I didn't realize that the police got free coffee in the States. I don't care if your coffee is the best in the world or the worst: that looks to me like a sign that certain people genuflect before the police and I think that that's what pisses you off. That'd piss me off too. I'd bow before a nurse than I would before a cop.

 You have a criminal record and are in medical school? Well...an adult one?

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There is a reason for that

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by AllIn0ne

People are disappointed in cops or hate them mostly due to the idealisation of them, as something that has the authority to exercise violence on behalf of the state. There is this idea that they will protect you no matter what, they will look out for the weak person and uphold order. Now I am not saying they should not do this but that one should not expect them to do so everytime without problem is false.

In many countries I lived in I was unable to call the cops if a situation had arisen or expected the outcome of calling them to be negative. 

I think one should see them as humans, and by extension tools to an end. No duty ethics or any other crap.

 I hate cops because I simply dislike being spoken to in a certain tone and I guess the bigger problem of that is someone THINKING they are in control of me (disciplinary ones where the person uses their control over you in their voice). Not because I idealize their power. I wouldn't want their power, to me it is a job for a narc. One that wants great recognition every single day and puts their own life on the line for it. Granted, you could get killed in any job. I have worked jobs where I could have been robbed at gun point and that was my reality. When people think of the type of work they usually don't think "risky", but some of my jobs have been just that

I guess it fuels the narc in me and has since I was a little kid. I have one memory where there are two cops standing over me telling me what I "have" to do and they were not talking to me like an adult should have. I was a very anti-authority kid but I was very respectful to those cops

I would not want my child speaking to a police officer without me in the room under the age of 13. Ever. I would not stand for my kid being terrorized by a police officer

Cops are human beings and they should act like defenders of the state like you said, not powers of the state.

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I will say one thing...you're from NYC. (I hope you don't mind me saying pray, but you have said openly before. feel free to ask me to edit out)

The NYPD is generally regarded as a prestigious organization, I would relate it to the Harvard of police officers. I am from NY and almost every person I've ever met that wanted to be a cop/firefighter, etc had ultimate goals of joining the NY departments.

The NYPD is talked about heavily...for good and bad reasons. I think the NYPD is probably one of the nastiest police departments in the country. For several reasons a few being the sheer size of NYC and the ability for one person to cause immediate mass destruction. (oh wait look at 9.11). Not to mention it's probably full of a ton of dirty cops getting big paydays. (like any city really)

And ofc NYC is the liberal capital of the USA so people welcome all these precautionary measures to keep themselves safe. Then they cry wolf when they give the police officers permission to do things and they do things like kill that guy selling cigs.

I believe people write their own tragedies when it comes to government, and they do it over and over again.

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