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by Turncoat

Hehe, "the day you wake up". Cute.

Calling him uneducated and contradictory in matters of faith, driven by security needs, and claiming he is an approval seeking tool, based on him making points about human nature as a whole.

 

 

Well, that's your version of what I said. I suggest how Edvard refrains from expressing his beliefs for the sake of pleasing the masses. He believes in God, yet in conversations such as this, and others in the past, he's always an advocate against his own beliefs, probably so he can be one of the guys and carry on playing the hot shot. In nature, the human is prone to error, this is one.

 

The funny thing is that the typical individual is contradictory in matters of faith, seeks approval from their peers, and wants to feel safe where they are, while you instead use that chance to use his points as marks against his character. Might as well call him "human" as a form of insult.

 

 

Well. Genocide is human too. Not comparing Ed to that, but Is it too much ? His error is bullshitting himself.

 



Quite the ad hominem you made before calling yourself his best friend here. You must have really been ticked off from his comment about reptilian aliens and reincarnation.

 

 

On the contrary, I find Edvard's attempts entertaining, like an angry child trying to one up a grown up. I do believe in extra terrestrials/inter dimensional beings, just as Edvard should believe in the angel serpent. I believe they are one in the same. I'm at peace when he brings up this belief in particular, simply because his reason for doing so is obvious to me.

I don't recall ever speaking about reincarnation, though in a more wrathful version of myself, I probably suggested it would be good for Edvard to reincarnate cause to me it looks like he can use a do over in his spiritual development, which can only expand as we are here.

 



Also, it doesn't take being a scientist to believe in Science any more than it takes being a pastor to believe in Christianity. It's about which is more convincing a case for that individual.

 

I never argued that. I simply pointed out how he believes what he does from, as he says, many stories. Or rather, what he's been told.



"You've at one point confessed your faith in God. Are you able to prove your reasoning for this at all ? I'm almost sure I'll have to ask you that again."

Never heard of Christian Science? The page even references an "Eddy"~

Some under that label believe that "God Invented Science", similarly to how people see that "Blizzard Invented Warcraft".

 Science, Blizzard, and Warcraft, are of God's creation. And thank you for answering a question for Ed, your assistance was indeed a major requirement, now I know for sure Ed believes in things, because he was told.

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"And thank you for answering a question for Ed"
With his constantly growing rogues' gallery, I'd imagine it being nice to have some of the weight taken off his shoulders from time to time.

How many names fall on that roster now, I wonder?


"Science, Blizzard, and Warcraft, are of God's creation."
That is your opinion. Mine believes otherwise while is still open enough to know I could be wrong.


"Well, that's your version of what I said."


Contradictory: "He believes in God, yet in conversations such as this, and others in the past, he's always an advocate against his own beliefs"
Uneducated [of his faith]: "You are indeed uneducated in your own faith, cause you ought to know it'll come and bite you sooner or later."
Security: "To you, this security is more important at any cost."
Approval Seeking: "Long have you been in need of reassurance by those you fear ridicule from, which would be the masses. So for your sake, you better keep them pleased."
Tool: "When will you learn not to be such a tool?"

My version indeed~

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First of all, I merely gave a natural/evolution theory explanation of what Johnnyboy mentioned as "proof" for his beliefs. I explained how having those feelings helped individuals survive better over time, so we kept that. It's smth ingrained in our subconscious, the result of hundreds of thousands of years of natural conditioning. We are animals at our core, if we're talking "proof" then the theory of evolution has plenty of that.

Truth is that almost everything has a plausible explanation that doesn't have anything to do with the supernatural, without aliens or even gods mixed into it. I believe there's a reason behind this. Faith with proof is hardly faith. Those who claim they have external/concrete reasons to believe in the supernatural are doing more harm than good, because they end up looking ignorant and ridiculous. Over and over again the religious or superstitious tried to promote and feed people their own interpretations of material things, which were proven wrong again and again. Like the Earth being the center of the Universe, or that it doesn't move. This is the reason why so many people now hate on the church and religions in general, because some people, instead of concerning themselves with only what belongs to the spiritual, believed they could explain more than they had really could about the physical world, and tried to force their views and ultimately their control on people who knew better.

I saw how gullible and not very intelligent you are in reality, and how easily you swollow just about anything, no matter how far fetched. You say you believe the stuff you do because of questionable 'proof' like pictures of UFOs, and disbelieve things which are pretty much proven or WAY more likely to be true. As I already told you in our last talk about this, your beliefs only end up looking stupid and ignorant. It's people like you, who claim all sorts of random shit like how cancer can be cured by eating raw food or that the devil is an alien, that do most harm to spiritual beliefs in my opinion.

Also, you know shit about my faith, except that I'm not an atheist. My beliefs are none of your business. They give me strength in times I need it, their effect is personal enough that they can't be proven to anyone, nor do I want to prove them in the first place. You'd be surprised to know that almost everyone who does what I do has some form of faith or another.

And own your attacks when you make them. I have no problem with going "ad homine" and telling you I'd love to make you spit your teeth on the floor, since I openly dislike you. That's being honest and not a hypocritical bastard. You, on the other hand, have the nerve to call yourself my friend, because your ego needs you to see yourself as some generous, spiritually superior creature, which you're not. You're just a dumb arrogant sack of shit.

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by Turncoat

"And thank you for answering a question for Ed"
With his constantly growing rogues' gallery, I'd imagine it being nice to have some of the weight taken off his shoulders from time to time.

How many names fall on that roster now, I wonder?

I appreciate it.

Not sure what you mean by rogues gallery... People I get along really well with? :D

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by Edvard

Also, you know shit about my faith, except that I'm not an atheist. My beliefs are none of your business. They give me strength in times I need it, their effect is personal enough that they can't be proven to anyone, nor do I want to prove them in the first place. You'd be surprised to know that almost everyone who does what I do has some form of faith or another.

Hmmm Doll,...that avi of yours is a nice looking man but your writing sure sounds like a woman, a very hormonal woman in fact. I don't buy that you're a man, doll, not a chance. Have you ever done a voice recording here? 

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Doll? The hell? You should change your name to misdiagnoser...

I posted 2 full body pics with time stamp and name.

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"Not sure what you mean by rogues gallery... People I get along really well with?"

The opposite, those who saw you and for reasons of their own try to mock or target you. Wilful, Dex, Whoameye, Wet, Spatial, you know, the rogue's gallery:

Rogues' Gallery: noun informal
a collection of people or creatures notable for a certain shared quality or characteristic, typically a disreputable one.

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*Extremity/RIS, AJ...

Haha, I was being a bit sarcastic :D  I imagined it was somthing like that. Thanks for clearing that up.

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hmmm...  gender guesser returned MALE (Genre: Informal  Female = 33  Male   = 114  Difference = 81; 77.55%  Verdict: MALE) on that paragraph... and WEAK MALE (Genre: Informal  Female = 811  Male   = 987  Difference = 176; 54.89%  Verdict: Weak MALE Weak emphasis could indicate European) on the whole post, lol. his other recent large post returned Genre: Informal  Female = 268  Male   = 478  Difference = 210; 64.07%  Verdict: MALE. AND my panties point to the same gender lol >:)

The opposite, those who saw you and for reasons of their own try to mock or target you. Wilful, Dex, Whoameye, Wet

Such a hurtful thing to say! I should not be on that list! see how I'm defending him? I have only his best interests at heart :3

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by Turncoat

"And thank you for answering a question for Ed"
With his constantly growing rogues' gallery, I'd imagine it being nice to have some of the weight taken off his shoulders from time to time.

How many names fall on that roster now, I wonder?

 

What you see as weight on his shoulders, are things he put there himself. He did after all strike first, as always.




"Science, Blizzard, and Warcraft, are of God's creation."
That is your opinion. Mine believes otherwise while is still open enough to know I could be wrong. 

 

For someone who is open to the idea you could be wrong, you're quite detailed in upholding your unsure state of being.

With that in mind, I'm sure you'll continue to turn a blind eye toward the fact Edvard called me out here. The more you categorize and label me the way you do, is the more unintelligent you'll seem to those who are observant. Now don't take that as me trying to offend you, it's written and played out in these very pages.  




"Well, that's your version of what I said."


Contradictory: "He believes in God, yet in conversations such as this, and others in the past, he's always an advocate against his own beliefs"
Uneducated: "You are indeed uneducated in your own faith, cause you ought to know it'll come and bite you sooner or later."
Security: "To you, this security is more important at any cost."
Approval Seeking: "Long have you been in need of reassurance by those you fear ridicule from, which would be the masses. So for your sake, you better keep them pleased."
Tool: "When will you learn not to be such a tool?"

My version indeed~

 

Contradictory: A+

Uneducated: E

Security: E

Approval Seeking: B

Tool: A+

Pointing out the obvious, yet some of it is twisted.

The uneducated part is exaggerated in your version. Ed in my perspective has displayed some intelligence while under my review. For me to say his is uneducated in his faith, doesn't mean one should cry about how I said so and so is uneducated, as though I said he is uneducated in general.

The security part is wrong in your version. In my version it's, insecurity.

Approval seeking he is, and regularly from the wrong crowd. He invests too much into those who will deliver him nothing, you shouldn't complain or intervene while I'm undergoing my processes with Ed. It's a disservice to him and yourself.

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