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"I just read M.E.'s 'Sociopath Code' article"

link?

I'm not completely convinced, because I haven't experienced one myself. An OBE can be acheived through meditation and the traits of an NDE can be medically reproduced, I think.

Anyways, it's been reported all over that most people that go through a NDE claim that their experience felt even more real than the life they were living. I know many skeptics try to peg it as simply hallucinating, but that doesn't seem to fit, in my opinion. Hallucinations tend to be conpletely unique, and while  every NDE is different, they have way too many reoccurring characteristics. Most people's experience is roughly similar. Also, hallucinations are foggy and easily forgotten. People with NDEs remember their experiences for years or their whole life.

NDEs also have a huge impact on a person's life afterwards. A few common things that are reported are being more emotionally sensitive, not personalizing love, etc.  A lot just become more positive in general. Some people report being a bit more sharp and perceptive. Most importantly, they usually don't fear death anymore. 95% of people that have an OBE/NDE end up believing in an afterlife.

Even if there is no point to life, I think I might want to go through one of these, just for the spiritual experience, to not fear anything anymore. Researching these alone have helped me. Contrary to what many may think, thinking about the idea doesn't make me look forward to or embrace death, it makes me want to live more. For more info/research on this google IANDS (International Association for Near Death Studies) and NDERF (Near Death Experience Research Foundation)

The brain releases DMT as you are about to die; that is probably the origin of NDEs.

i have had 3 or 4 near death experiences

each time alcohol and drugs were related

Let me help.

A 2010 article, hm?


JohnnyBoy1: "Do you think they are real or not?  The reason I ask is, if they are real, it seems that it would suggest that life isn't pointless."

How would one change the point of life?

Thanks Turncoat.

Yea, randomly came across it.  I personally believe they are real for 2 reasons. 

1.  If it's a phenomena of the brain, and a hallucination caused by DMT, then it seems the experience would be limited to the mind.  However, there are instances of people having NDEs explaining seeing things that were physically impossible for them to see.  Here's an example of one:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL1oDuvQR08  I've done a lot of research on NDEs and this is one of the coolest ones, not because we hear about what the other side is like but because, to me, it explains away the 'phenomena of the brain' idea, meaning the experience occurs outside the brain and body, which to me is CRAZY interesting, especially pertaining to sociopaths and really any other condition of the brain, be it autism, cerebral palsy, etc, which is then EVEN MORE interesting bc it opens up the possibility of what religion and spirituality have tried to explain, which is a reason for life, sort of a test.  Bc if NDEs ARE real, suggested by this theory, then bliss exists in this very moment, yet we don't experience it... for a reason- hence there must be a reason why.

2.  If you've ever been told that religion is real and that there's a purpose to life, most people will commit only partially to it bc they want to believe but aren't 100% sure. However, many people who have NDEs are COMPLETELY changed by it.  Why is this?  Bc it's no longer a possibility that the next life exists, which again is how most people who are religious function (without strong faith- bc to them it's about faith, it isn't a known), however, these people having NDEs change so much bc to them, it's something they now KNOW.  When you KNOW something without question, your behavior reflects that.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/near_death_explained/

have you read this ?

"When you KNOW something without question, your behavior reflects that."

It's still not known, only believed in more strongly. An increase in conviction is not a change in clarity.

I'd need more proof than some stories to myself believe that NDEs prove anything other than "you trip balls when you die".

I say "know" because seeing is believing.  If you saw your wife cheating on you, you'd behave differently than hearsay, right?  Kinda like having an NDE and seeing, and jst hearing about religion and spirituality.  While I will agree that it is believed in more strongly bc of it, yet doesn't ultimately prove it, to me it kinda strong suggests it.  I've encountered people who've had NDEs and had taken LSD and such and say it's a totally different thing.  Plus even if you believe in the hallucination theory, it still cannot explain the video I posted.  There have been SO many cases where people see things during their NDE that are impossible for their body to have seen.  There's another example of a person who saw a shoe sitting on a window sill at the hospital they were in and when they told a nurse, the nurse went to check and it was there.  That's pretty crazy. 

Also, there's a common theme in most, that life is about love.  Why not hate, or fear, or indifference, or animals or ice cream or any type of feeling or thing?   Why is it love?

To me, there's just too much miraculous stuff that happens during them that cannot be explained, and so that mixed how the common theme of life being about love, mixed with the teachings of religion and whatnot  being the same type message, is a pretty strong case. 

I mean, why does it feel good when someone compliments you?  And why don't you get that same feeling when someone insults you or a family member or friend or whatever?  That's tied into us on a deep level.  So maybe there isn't a sure fire way to prove they are real, but I think that's kinda the point of life too, to still need to depend upon faith.  Otherwise, if we knew the answer, why would we even be here?

So, all I know is that the unexplainable happens during them, most experience a common theme of love, and many are deeply effected by them.  And so, to me, that's some pretty damn good evidence, and while it can't prove it, again, I think that's kinda the point of life, to live based on a bit of faith.

Now, I realize this is really hard to do if you're a sociopath, believe me, when I smoke MJ I somehow transform, not really as much into a sociopath, but I can mold any situation to my favor.  And when you're everyday life is like that, I can imagine it being difficult to see things the way I'm explaining it, bc it basically means you aren't what you've perceived yourself to be this entire time, this person who's better than most and special in some way, but the likelihood, based on people experiencing things that are unexplainable with the body and brain, suggest this is true.  Which is why I think sociopaths actually have a very difficult road in life, when it comes to the reason we truly exist, bc it kinda means dropping self importance, which is pretty tough if you've got a pretty good life.  Believe me, I get it.  The only reason I have come to this study to discover this is honestly bc I've suffered so much in my life.  and when you compare favorably to most others you meet, you're ego is so big that you suffer my less due to self judgment.  But no matter how you view the world or how big your ego or small your ego, it doesn't change the reality of life, or what seems to be the reality based on what these NDEs point to.