So, my quote responses are out of order.
"It might very well not be hallucinations."
Let us pray that they are. That stuff being real is a worse alternative.
More evidence suggests that they are not real however.
"I mean we thought not that long ago that the atom was the smallest object of existence, but now that's changed, it will always change with more knowledge."
Yes, skeptics lead to people continuing to look further. Why believe something is true if it's evidence is lacking and further answers could be found? Why rush things when it could become something truly believable?
"In fact, physicists are now coming to find that it's an invisible energythat holds everything together, since we humans are basically 99% empty space."
I'd ask if it wouldn't tangent into a completely unrelated topic.
"Yes, this might be based on personal account, but at some point the data cannot explain everything."
The only constraint is time.
"But the God helemt has been worn by someone whose had a NDE and says it's not the NDE, and even took a lie detector to prove it (it's on YouTube)."
Two things wrong with lie detectors:
1) They can be duped easily.
2) If they believe it, it just proves that they do, not that what they're saying is the truth. Conviction is not proof.
"describing the location of a shoe on a window sill"
Occam's Razor would lean toward coincidence, or others filling in the blanks for vague statements, the memory's nature changing afterwards from impressionable minds witnessing the event. Wanting to believe can sometimes blind the skepticism that ought to be present during such an event.
"They ARE good, yes. BUT you have to understand that my idea cannot ever be proven, I mean how can it? You could ALWAYS make the argument that we haven't tested something that explains it or a combo of things, like the right game genie code of chemicals.. It's silly."
It could be proven through further study. Why take an answer before it's finished being revealed unless you yourself can provide further discovery? It's sillier to believe a half-baked idea as if it explains anything more than it does.
"This mixed with the common themes from those who didn't even know what aNDE is, the list goes on and on of unexplainable miraculous stuff."
How could those not be explained as DMT symptoms, if not symptoms of another bodily response when dying?
"And not only that, but these people say they have no question there's anafterlife and they have no more fear of death- I mean there are atheists and scientists (surgeons) who have NDEs who change their minds afterward."
You mean to tell me that atheists and scientists aren't any more human than the rest of humanity? Just because they had pre-existing beliefs against it does not make them exempt from believing crazy things later on. They are still people.
"-'Half-given' is an opinion, just like mine."
You mean to tell me the answers cannot be elaborated on? Come on.
"Basically there's no way to prove who's right, but I know I've researched it a lot and my opinion is pretty tried and tested."
No way to prove who is right yet. Why not wait until such a time to decide if something make sense? Why rush things? There's enough counter-evidence to insist that more research be done.
"that would be a crazy theme of hallucination, I mean I don't dream those sorts of things. "
Same chemical, similar symptoms. Doesn't seem too crazy to me.
I think stuff like this is really more common than is generally recognised. For some reason I must be the kind of person who looks like they would be open minded about it, because people tell me about these things all the time. Only a few weeks ago a client was telling me about how ever since his mother died he has felt her presence on his right shoulder wherever he goes. And he's really not the kind of person who seems like he would believe in shite like that. I don't know why he even thought I would care....
Even if it is just psychological, if it helps the person feel better then so what?
How do you know the doc wasn’t lying? And the rest of the people making up stories, or just deluding themselves into believing crap? Scammers and crazy people have loud voices.
Really, there are so many fucking alien kidnap/encounter stories around, or stories about ghosts, you should know better than to believe every crap that gets published/hyped. They can't all be true, wake up. As can't all religions be true, like scientology for example. You'll always find miraculous stories that "prove" the believer's beliefs, no matter how absurd the beliefs are... If there's a pattern, that is it... Don't you find that kinda suspicious?
"Many stories" is why Tony here believes in Reptile aliens and reincarnation. But he'd eat up every little supernatural shit you'd through his way...
by Turncoat
"I mean, why does it feel good when someone compliments you?"
It validates your ego. It makes you feel like you actually matter in a cold and unforgiving world.
"And why don't you get that same feeling when someone insults you or a family member or friend or whatever?"
It confirms self-loathing or is a shocking occurrence, and even then it only hurts if you aren't prepared for it.
Apart from what TC said... Being complimented/appreciated/having your value recognized by the pack means social acceptance and that you’re less likely to be attacked. You’re valuable to the pack in some way, pack likes that, it protects you, maybe sees you as a leader, and the pack is stronger because of you. You feel good, it encourages you to keep doing what you were doing/being worthy of compliments, and making the pack stronger with that… Win win…
Insults mean social rejection and ultimately threats. Chemicals get secreted in your body that make you dislike threats, and everything associated with threats, including insults... Those unpleasant feelings subconsciously associated with threats and danger make you stay away from those (like bad smells which keep you away from rotten food). You survive.
It's all part of our social instinct if you ask me.
by Spatial MindThey aren't talking about the feeling of being visited by the departed here.
I've heard of many NDEs involving departed relatives, so it's the same kind of thing.
All my point was that, although I'm skeptical, if these beliefs make people happy then there is no problem. I don't understand why people get so irate about religious beliefs and life after death type stuff. Unlike the 'raw food can cure cancer' crap, these beliefs aren't doing anyone any harm.
I usually use such times to express how illogical and unreliable self perceived experiences can be. People are a little too willing to trust their experiences over more plausible answers, and watching that shock as they try to defend an experience just because it was theirs, but lacking the points to make it convincing, often reveals other things about them (especially if they raise their voices related to the topic, or express eerie levels of conviction behind it).
Harm or not, it's an opening that can be questioned.
by Edvard"Many stories" is why Tony here believes in Reptile aliens and reincarnation. But he'd eat up every little supernatural shit you'd through his way...
Actually, many stories is why you believe the things you do. From your belief in God, to the scientific theories that are continuously being looked over and debated in science communities, while you are nowhere near a scientist, nor do you write and understand formulas and other languages that assure you they are correct.
You've at one point confessed your faith in God. Are you able to prove your reasoning for this at all ? I'm almost sure I'll have to ask you that again.
As for me, I take in anything, but this doesn't mean I won't process the information or shelf it until the information is further supported. Those with the most knowledge also know and recognize a fair amount of waste. In comparison your egotistical fear based ways will only provide a lesser intuition, while my way is key.
Apart from what TC said... Being complimented/appreciated/having your
value recognized by the pack means social acceptance and that you’re
less likely to be attacked.
To you, this security is more important at any cost.
You’re valuable to the pack in some way,
pack likes that, it protects you, maybe sees you as a leader, and the
pack is stronger because of you.
Long have you been in need of reassurance by those you fear ridicule from, which would be the masses. So for your sake, you better keep them pleased.
You feel good, it encourages you to
keep doing what you were doing/being worthy of compliments, and making
the pack stronger with that… Win win…
Yes, without your complements your fragile ego would collapse, but with your proclaimed reward your to be labeled as sub servant, often to the malicious. It's easy to assume you are ashamed of your belief in God, cause it wouldn't work in your chosen flocks. You are indeed uneducated in your own faith, cause you ought to know it'll come and bite you sooner or later. Even without faith will you end up in vein. When will you learn not to be such a tool ?
Insults mean social
rejection and ultimately threats. Chemicals get secreted in your body
that make you dislike threats, and everything associated with threats,
including insults... Those unpleasant feelings subconsciously associated
with threats and danger make you stay away from those (like bad smells
which keep you away from rotten food). You survive.It's all part of our social instinct if you ask me.
Definitely not the stuff leaders are made of, though being you, it is your opinion, and only because it's from your direction is it reasonable.
Without trying, I am the best friend you have here, and the day you wake up, you'll then appreciate all I've done for you.
by Gypsy
by Spatial MindThey aren't talking about the feeling of being visited by the departed here.
I've heard of many NDEs involving departed relatives, so it's the same kind of thing.
All my point was that, although I'm skeptical, if these beliefs make people happy then there is no problem. I don't understand why people get so irate about religious beliefs and life after death type stuff. Unlike the 'raw food can cure cancer' crap, these beliefs aren't doing anyone any harm.
Why do you not believe raw food can cure cancer ? Every single case of cancer recovery dumbfounds doctors, and those same cases proclaim healthy dieting habits.
You have to understand, all the junk food you see on TV is on the line here, which is why your trusty news source doesn't publish materials that goes against the WTO's wishes, which the FDA is complaint to.
Hehe, "the day you wake up". Cute.
Calling him uneducated and contradictory in matters of faith, driven by security needs, and claiming he is an approval seeking tool, based on him making points about human nature as a whole. The funny thing is that the typical individual is contradictory in matters of faith, seeks approval from their peers, and wants to feel safe where they are, while you instead use that chance to use his points as marks against his character. Might as well call him "human" as a form of insult.
Quite the ad hominem you made before calling yourself his best friend here. You must have really been ticked off from his comment about reptilian aliens and reincarnation. 
Also, it doesn't take being a scientist to believe in Science any more than it takes being a pastor to believe in Christianity. It's about what is more convincing a case for that individual.
"You've at one point confessed your faith in God. Are you able to prove your reasoning for this at all ? I'm almost sure I'll have to ask you that again."
Never heard of Christian Science? The page even references an "Eddy"~
Some under that label believe that "God Invented Science and Evolution", similarly to how people see that "Blizzard Invented Warcraft".