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To Commit Suicide or Not?

People obviously benefit each other in some way otherwise no one would cohabitate.  

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To prevent foolish youth suicides, we must reinforce the notion to them that suicide is not OK. We need to encourage at-risk individuals to seek support from loved ones and to be frank about their suicidal thoughts. We also need this to somehow work even if they really have no one to turn to. A culture of life has to be promoted, and this includes squashing notions of telling others to go die / kill themselves. We can mock the weak-willed all we want, but vulnerable moments come upon most humans at one point or another in their lifetimes. Especially the young and the elderly.

For that reason, I believe we simply can't support assisted suicide even for the tragically doomed. The inevitable spread of acceptance and tolerance would erode the "culture of life" and make deliberate death a way of life, in a century or two. It'd affect not only elderly assisted suicide, but also other matters of life and death. Imagine an elderly man being frightened for his life when he comes down with a cold, because he knows that his family might well press hard for him to sign off on being lawfully euthanized?

To be clear, we're not talking about "for the good of others" scenarios, such as a brave immobilized soldier staying behind with a loaded rifle as his comrades flee to live another day, or the infamous but fictional sacrifice of a zombie-infected person during a Zombie Apocalypse. We're talking about everyday, genuine and real civilian considerations. Perhaps a soccer mom being told on her 34th birthday that she was going to lose all mental capability within a couple years.

Humans need to prosper, while knowing that each and every other man and woman would help him or her in times of need. That is the ideal, and if someone is standing there asking to die - we should not eagerly oblige them if the situation is not compelling enough, lest we begin to find ourselves telling others to die for our sake.

Instead, we should be asking ourselves what we could have done to prevent that very plea for a mercy killing.

 

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seriously? 7 years with cancer and you couldn't figure out the fact that cannabis oil cures it in 3 months

is your IQ 70?

GO MAKE SOME CANNABIS OIL DERP DERP!

 

THIS VIDEO SHOWS HOW TO MAKE IT AT THE END

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I wasn't the one with cancer. The patient's survival was not my concern as I was not her doctor. Also, as I strongly disliked her, I enjoyed her suffering. I just thought that she was selfish, weak and cowardly.

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by Miss Diagnosed

When I saw the title of this thread I hoped you were seeking advice Helena, but alas no. So here we have yet another longwinded post designed to demonstrate the ever so popular "I'm so above it all" attitude.

 

Back to the topic. I think the breadwinner fucked up as he was clearly not  in a position to retire. HE should have committed suicide so his wife could have his lived off his insurance in a high-end nursing home filled with sexy Phillipinos wiping her bottom.

Also in this day and age, why was there only one breadwinner in the home? Are there kids? Why are they not helping these people? It takes a village to watch someone die.      

I guess the title was a little misleading. I apologise for that, but rest assured, I have no intention of committing the act myself.

However, your perspective does interest me. I had not considered the situation in that light before.

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by UN Observer

Oh the irony. So turns out the most normal, honest and grounded (and definitely non-sociopathic) member of this forum is the only one who has killed another person. 

Ana's act sounds like one of compassion to me. A heavy dose of phenobarbital would've done it if she could obtain the drugs, an injection of potassium chloride would've mimicked a heart attack, and alternatively, a heavy dose of morphine, stockpiled by Ana for the occasion, would've been perfect. This would not constitute an act of murder by a sociopath: rather, it would appear to be construed upon kindness. In many countries an autopsy is not required in cases of death by terminal illness so heightened levels of morphine and/or potassium chloride or phenobarbital may not have been detected, particularly if submitted via IV route through a catheter.

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by anastacia

 The rest of the family was desperate for the patient to hang on even though they had withered away to almost nothing. There was no way this person was going to recover, they were unable to take their own life within a couple of weeks and the family just delayed the inevitable. 

I've seen that. It's the most cowardly shit imaginable: clinging to someone else's life for the sake of your own supposed comfort. Well done for being brave enough to end the patient's suffering.

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by MrOmegaPhi

Is it possible that the patient wanted to die but that the breadwinner/caregiver was selfish and wanted her to live longer?

 

Huh? Last guy I knew battling a terminal illness lost his wife one month into hospitalization.

This is strictly a male/female issue.

Males will feel compelled to do the right thing out of honor.

Females will take their money and run.

 

Bottom line people. WTF up and smell the coffee.

You are clearly bitter and jaded.

I took my father's last $5,000 and ran before he died. He took my mother's fortune when I was five. By your logic my father should've actually been of the female persuasion.

My life insurance policy is worth ten times that of my partner's. That's quite normal in a world in which men find insurance more difficult to obtain due to the nature of their work. My partner has more of a financial motive for killing me than I do for killing him. He hasn't attempted to kill me yet.

I strongly suspect that you are heavily under the influence of alcohol when you type this bitter, distressed blathering. You seem confused, disoriented, and jaded. The "results" you cite are often not accredited, or are from dubious sources. This is clearly not the place for you, which is why I highly recommend that you stay a little longer.

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by MrOmegaPhi

Is that experience what made you so jaded?

 

lol... jaded... you make it sound as if there is anything of value with supporting people in the first place.

Wow. I didn't realize that you'd already been accused of being jaded on this thread. That should tell you something, but I suspect it won't, because your schemata are so heavily enforced to protect your mind from the ugly truth that the world isn't the horrible place you've convinced yourself it is - you just suck at navigating it. You're a failure. but that's not the world's fault. It's yours.

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