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To Commit Suicide or Not?


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So, I know someone who, after a seven-year battle with cancer, finally kicked the bucket this morning.

I've always thought that suicide is a viable option when faced with a terminal diagnosis. I'm sure we've all seen at least one situation like this one - a couple's getting ready for the breadwinner to retire. They're bought a hugeass caravan and they intend to travel across the continent. They haven't had a holiday in thirty years because the breadwinner's always working. They have a massive house and an equally massive retirement fund.

Then - BOOM! One of them gets struck with cancer. That's some pretty sad shit, but what's sadder is yet to come.

For almost a decade she languishes. The breadwinner has to quit work to care for her full time - as well as hire a full time nurse. He has to sell the campervan and the house. They move into a dank, dingy little place. The retirement fund dwindles and the breadwinner has to return to work for the final few years before the patient finally expires.

Fuck. That. Shit.

I always thought it'd be more honourable if she'd kill herself to avoid forcing her family to suffer, but what do you badasses think?

Alternatively, if this topic bores you, don't just leave it: put your stamp on it as a permanent sign of contempt so that we all get off track as quickly as possible.

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I think we ought to put down terminally ill patients. Free up space and monies.

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Agreed. That's technically illegal where I'm from but doctor-assisted suicide does occasionally happen when consenting parties are able to find a doctor who is compassionate and brave enough.

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by possum

I think we ought to put down terminally ill patients. Free up space and monies.

 

treating some of them will lead to a cure, while killing them all off will be inefficient

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by Metaerg

 

by possum

I think we ought to put down terminally ill patients. Free up space and monies.

 

treating some of them will lead to a cure, while killing them all off will be inefficient

 smh, bleeding hearts

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When I saw the title of this thread I hoped you were seeking advice Helena, but alas no. So here we have yet another longwinded post designed to demonstrate the ever so popular "I'm so above it all" attitude.

 

Back to the topic. I think the breadwinner fucked up as he was clearly not  in a position to retire. HE should have committed suicide so his wife could have his lived off his insurance in a high-end nursing home filled with sexy Phillipinos wiping her bottom.

Also in this day and age, why was there only one breadwinner in the home? Are there kids? Why are they not helping these people? It takes a village to watch someone die.      

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Is it possible that the patient wanted to die but that the breadwinner/caregiver was selfish and wanted her to live longer? I'm not a sociopath but at the request of a terminally ill person, I gave them a lethal dose of pain medication to end their suffering. The rest of the family was desperate for the patient to hang on even though they had withered away to almost nothing. There was no way this person was going to recover, they were unable to take their own life within a couple of weeks and the family just delayed the inevitable. 

On a related note though, it must be horrific to live under such circumstances with no control over your own medication or anything else that could kill you and relieve the suffering. 

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Oh the irony. So turns out the most normal, honest and grounded (and definitely non-sociopathic) member of this forum is the only one who has killed another person. 

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My gramps was dying for years, yet my nan done everything in her power to #1 keep him alive (even though he couldn't communicate or even wipe his own ass)  #2 keep him at home to ensure she picked up her carers allowance even though she didn't do any of the caring lol

Within half hour of his death she asked what time the shops opened.

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Is it possible that the patient wanted to die but that the breadwinner/caregiver was selfish and wanted her to live longer?

 

Huh? Last guy I knew battling a terminal illness lost his wife one month into hospitalization.

This is strictly a male/female issue.

Males will feel compelled to do the right thing out of honor.

Females will take their money and run.

 

Bottom line people. WTF up and smell the coffee.

 

 

Look at this big fat fuking LIE...

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091110105401.htm

Chamberlain said the study was initiated because doctors noticed that in their neuro-oncology practices, divorce occurred almost exclusively when the wife was the patient.

 

It obviously does not happen almost exclusively to females as in every instance I am aware of it has happened that the male has been abandoned exclusively.

Do not trust studies people. Trust your own personal experiences. Fuking feminist agendas.

 

 

Now if we are talking mental illness. Yes... women get dropped immediately. Men, on average, cannot and will not endure women with mental illness.

I am sure you are fully aware of this phenomenon. Trust your experiences, not studies.

Now flip the table towards substance abuse, and I think we will see an even split across the board. 

 

 

However, I will suggest the researchers in that study could have easily chosen groups that were financially biased. Example groups that were applying for special qualifying financial aid.

Men who are financially capable of the situation will stay. Women will not. Who has the bigger life insurance plan? These are the things that matter.

Hence, everyone gets dropped when substance abuse is the issue, as there is no money in it for anyone.

 

My gramps was dying for years, yet my nan done everything in her power to #1 keep him alive (even though he couldn't communicate or even wipe his own ass) #2 keep him at home to ensure she picked up her carers allowance even though she didn't do any of the caring lol

 

Elderly situations mean there is little opportunity to begin again with another spouse, plus retirement and life insurance plans come into effect.

 

Get over this idea of true eternal love people.

There is comfort and discomfort. Love starts to end a few mere weeks after the honey moon, and it keeps going downhill after that.

The human brain is not capable of maintaining a lengthy feeling of strong love over any given period of time.

 

I always thought it'd be more honourable if she'd kill herself to avoid forcing her family to suffer, but what do you badasses think?

 

I personally do not care as I have no intention of supporting anyone ever again.

 

Okay okay, I don't place money or material items over human beings, unless they are greedy spend thrifts with no consideration, so if my ill and dying dependent decided they wanted to buy ridiculously expensive shit, they can forget it, because it won't be happening. Stay alive for as many years as you want, you are going to learn how to eat food that is prepared on a stove top and you are going to learn how to drink coffee that comes out of a home brewed pot, and you are not getting your last wish to go and travel the world. The surrounding neighbourhoods via a bus ticket is all you are going to get. After all, time together is all that matters.

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