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by TheLeviathan

 

by Spatial Mind

 

by TheLeviathan

But I also see an almost God-like potential in all humans. They are creating the reality around them, but they use morality, indoctrination, and deception to displace responsibility away from themselves. They do this out of fear, I think. The thought of being responsible for their feeling bad, and not being able to change it like I (and maybe others like me) can must depress them. I think everyone could realize their ability to control themselves and be less emotionally inclined and biased. But few are worth the time to teach.

 

Are you manipulating me or something ? I'm thinking you have a very high opinionated awareness. That is, very aware, but opinionated.

The ones who seem to be unable to learn, are the ones who need it the most. Still in every case, people only learn when they are ready.

 The language I use is limited, and so my reality is limited. When I use the term "disgusting," it is more of an analogy, or complex interpretation. I am indifferent on people, usually. But when I think it's possible, I attempt to bring other people the same rationalizations that I've come across, in the form of a linguistically-sound perspective. My recent relationship focus was based on the fact that I saw her ability to see her primitive tendencies, and that she wanted more than anything, to destroy them. But she lacks the will because of her emotional predispositions towards herself. She has not been treated kindly in this world. When I give her insights to help her achieve self-control, she seems unable to take the step into moral oblivion. She is willing to let other people control her, to stay morally sound. When that is, in fact, the reason she isn't able to remain "morally sound" in the first place.

This may seem off-topic, but this was the only example I could think of, off the top of my head.

 

This female you're talking about. I can see the exact same thing about someone I know. A few actually, but 1 person really stands out.

She's really managed to absorb and become the system as though the ego that has been provided to her by society is perfectly correct. The thing about providing insight for the sake of achieving self control to people like that, is that it's literally a requirement for the teacher to take control of them for a period of time. Then it comes down to their deep routed beliefs which has them in a comfort zone.

Their ego must be destroyed in order to make way for the greater awareness. The tricky part is, you being the one to do that will most likely make her get defensive. Even when the fact of the matter surfaces, it at least seems "I told you so" won't go all that smoothly either.

She needs to ask more questions, and they have to be the right questions before she's ready for transformations into the unknown, and the unknown is usually comprised of things that are fictitious to her understanding.

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by TheLeviathan

My view of everything changes with my rationalizations. Whatever appears to be my "opinion" is something that I guarantee you, is dynamic in every way.

 Way.

Though opinion is important. I'm by no means judging you for turning away from those you've deemed a lost cause. We should only do what we can, attempting otherwise in most cases is a waste of time.

When I said your aware but opinionated, I meant to point out how you know people are blind. And yes, it isn't a very pretty picture.

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So you can orgasm at will?

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by Spatial Mind

 

by TheLeviathan

 

by Spatial Mind

 

by TheLeviathan

But I also see an almost God-like potential in all humans. They are creating the reality around them, but they use morality, indoctrination, and deception to displace responsibility away from themselves. They do this out of fear, I think. The thought of being responsible for their feeling bad, and not being able to change it like I (and maybe others like me) can must depress them. I think everyone could realize their ability to control themselves and be less emotionally inclined and biased. But few are worth the time to teach.

 

Are you manipulating me or something ? I'm thinking you have a very high opinionated awareness. That is, very aware, but opinionated.

The ones who seem to be unable to learn, are the ones who need it the most. Still in every case, people only learn when they are ready.

 The language I use is limited, and so my reality is limited. When I use the term "disgusting," it is more of an analogy, or complex interpretation. I am indifferent on people, usually. But when I think it's possible, I attempt to bring other people the same rationalizations that I've come across, in the form of a linguistically-sound perspective. My recent relationship focus was based on the fact that I saw her ability to see her primitive tendencies, and that she wanted more than anything, to destroy them. But she lacks the will because of her emotional predispositions towards herself. She has not been treated kindly in this world. When I give her insights to help her achieve self-control, she seems unable to take the step into moral oblivion. She is willing to let other people control her, to stay morally sound. When that is, in fact, the reason she isn't able to remain "morally sound" in the first place.

This may seem off-topic, but this was the only example I could think of, off the top of my head.

 

This female you're talking about. I can see the exact same thing about someone I know. A few actually, but 1 person really stands out.

She's really managed to absorb and become the system as though the ego that has been provided to her by society is perfectly correct. The thing about providing insight for the sake of achieving self control to people like that, is that it's literally a requirement for the teacher to take control of them for a period of time. Then it comes down to their deep routed beliefs which has them in a comfort zone.

Their ego must be destroyed in order to make way for the greater awareness. The tricky part is, you being the one to do that will most likely make her get defensive. Even when the fact of the matter surfaces, it at least seems "I told you so" won't go all that smoothly either.

She needs to ask more questions, and they have to be the right questions before she's ready for transformations into the unknown, and the unknown is usually comprised of things that are fictitious to her understanding.

 Agreed. I once considered attempting to control her. In-fact, it would be very simple, since she is so emotionally compromised by her emotional neglect. She has apparently considered suicide many times. I imagine that telling her "If you can't find it in you to live for your self, then live for me, at least for a short while. I promise, that with my help, you can fix yourself," would get me some time and an ear. With this I would explain the extent of my self-control, and point out how she is capable of the same thing. Telling her how she's "far more intelligent than you think" and "worth more because of your potential" would give her the self-esteem required to further this change. I also imagine that the control I have over her would have to appear to be her own, for this all to be "self-discovered." I must point out the logical flaws in her emotional slavery, while also pointing out the effects of other peoples' emotional slavery. I can remove her moral compass if she thinks that it's possible for me to love her without it. I was willing to tell her that I was ok with [insert "terrible" act she's assuredly done].

 

It's all still quite possible. I found out recently, though, that I could easily get her back with sex. If I get her attached enough, I could convince her of the truth of morality and bias.

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by kitty

So you can orgasm at will?

 With practice, of course I could. But that's not what I meant. I meant that the simple feeling of pleasure, and I mean, in its most simplest form, is easily achievable with pure thought. 

 

I once experimented with the conversion of anger into pleasure, using synesthesiac reactions from music as the base. In that experimentation, I unlocked the potential for will-full pleasure without external influences. The body is an extension of the mind. When you realize that, you can use it to its full potential.

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by TheLeviathan

 I once experimented with the conversion of anger into pleasure, using synesthesiac reactions from music as the base.

 That's actually pretty cool.

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What a boring pile of pseudo intellectual shit. Anyways I have some questions. Don't you think it's kinda extremely pathetic that you "showed respect" to the people who were abusing you? Why didn't you stand up for yourself? And If it didn't bother you why did you fantasize about killing them? Secondly, If you you have empathy, perfect self control and pretty much act like a regular person everywhere other than inside the confines your own mind, what makes you think you're a sociopath? Also whats the point of starting a relationship with someone if you're not planning on fucking them? Are sure you have a lack of interest in sex, or is it it just that you lack the confidence and social skills required to get it and so you've convinced yourself that you're asexual to avoid dealing with your problems?

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by Thrope
What a boring pile of pseudo intellectual shit. Anyways I have some questions. Don't you think it's kinda extremely pathetic that you "showed respect" to the people who were abusing you? Why didn't you stand up for yourself? And If it didn't bother you why did you fantasize about killing them? Secondly, If you you have empathy, perfect self control and pretty much act like a regular person everywhere other than inside the confines your own mind, what makes you think you're a sociopath? Also whats the point of starting a relationship with someone if you're not planning on fucking them? Are sure you have a lack of interest in sex, or is it it just that you lack the confidence and social skills required to get it and so you've convinced yourself that you're asexual to avoid dealing with your problems?

 I'm indifferent to their attempt at psychological assault. Why would I want to feel bad about something somebody said to me? That makes no sense. I might as well act like nothing happened because the conflict created by "standing up for myself" would be counter-productive. I would only be predisposed to stand up for myself if I was emotionally affected. I didn't fantasize about killing them. I never claimed to be a sociopath. I have achieved rational, emotionless, unbiased clarity. Describing this state of mind to anyone around me would get me a social classification of a sociopath. Again, I find that disgusting. If you find sex to be the only motive for a relationship, then you are no different from a gorilla, or any other instinct-based human. I've never had sexual drive for my entire life. Not unless there was something beneficial from it. My confidence is conditional. Overconfidence is destructive, and so I've conditioned that aspect out of me. I'm reasonably confident. I don't lack social skills, other than the somewhat lacking ability to judge the notoriously ambiguous body-language cues of especially primitive individuals.

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I, more less, took their insults rationally, as criticism. I used those criticisms, when accurate, to better myself.

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You don't like being labeled?  Put on your mask, go about your business, and stop worrying about it.  I label the masses "sheep", doesnt  seem to stop them from being sheep.

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