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I don't think people will learn to not feel jealous/upset about it anytime soon.

I agree, it's not something our society has been properly primed for and most would not be able to justify within themselves because they have too many preconceived notions about it.

Since we're talking animal instincts, it's kinda ingrained into us as
animal to compete and try to win over partners, and well, keep them to
ourselves. I'm too possessive to imagine sharing someone I'm seriously
involved with with someone else, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only
one. I mean, if I see my gf holding hands with another dude,
talking/laughing/kissing not to mention some other stuff, it doesn't
help too much to rationally tell myself, hey, other people have fucked
her too, no biggie. Share your toys. I'd probably get there and chase
that guy away in an unpleasant way, it's what seems natural to me. It's
not because society told me monogamy is good, it's something much deeper
that gets stirred. So I'm not sure that your idea of polygamy is that natural either...

I certainly understand what you mean and yes it is quite natural for males  of most species of mammal to be territorial of their mates. Jealousy exists for evolutionary reasons. The jealous passed on their genes because fought for what they have. But we as a species have evolved past that point. Especially considering the fact that sex now is  far more often about pleasure  and fun than reproduction and even beyond that. Polygamy has existed for a VERY long time, it isn't a modern concept by any means.

Truth is it's not that easy for most people to keep physical needs and emotional needs completely separate.

This is very true, especially considering how intensively "socially acceptable" concepts of love and sex are enforced by society and the media.

I read somewhere that brain chemicals get secreted during sex that
brings people closer together emotionally, it's a trick of nature, so if
you're willing to share someone physically you must also be willing to
share his/her affection.

True, and I believe that goes with the territory. But we share our emotions with our family and that's not a bad thing. Why would it be wrong to share your emotions with others?

And if you care about someone the way you very eloquently described you
don't want to risk losing them altogether, or get your time with them
shortened in favor of other people and all that... At least I wouldn't.

And that is where the balance comes in. This idea takes alot of communication and openness that most people aren't ready for. It takes alot of ugly honesty and truth to do it and it takes time from the ones you love and that love you when you share yourself with someone else. But again I don't think it's natural for us to pour all of ourselves into just one person and think that's enough. We are a social species and one of our basic human needs is the concept of variety.

http://training.tonyrobbins.com/the-6-human-needs-why-we-do-what-we-do/

It's very hard to stabilize variety and another very important need: Certainty. And that's what we cling to in relationships, that's why we form them, so we will have this person that is there for us and we trust them to be so.

But the best answer isn't to sacrifice one for the other.  we crave the stimulation of others just as much as we crave stability. But we've settled for this system because it's the one our society told us is right.

But again, if you look at marriage statistics, and the general decline in marriage all together... You can see that those concepts are not working for us as we become more liberal, accepting, and honest about what we really want.

Again, this is all my opinion and I understand where people come from with the concept of monogamy. I wouldn't be so bold as to ever say monogamy will ever go away. I simply believe the concept of open relationships are going to become much more prevelent and acceptable as time goes on.

it's a bit unfair to tell her "The world could be yours if you had the
guts to reach out for it. But you never will, because you prefer the
safety of your gilded cage, your ignorance. It keeps you safe and warm.

I agree, it wasn't fair, it was meant to elicit an emotional flow of thought in her. A concept that she needs to see for herself. She is hesitant to leave that cage (here parental programming) I know she will grow out of it. I know she knows that also... I was simply reminding her... no, daring here to do it.

So let me get this straight. When people come here and have respectful discourse on a topic. They are trying to "win each other over"?

I'm so curious as to why it bothers everyone so much that I and Ed aren't insulting one another. It feels alot like jealousy for some reason. But I'm genuinely unsure why so many people would be jealous over that. To the point of them wanting to try and be a catalyst for conflict and derision. Do you guys feel left out? Am I simply not giving you the attention you want from me? If that's so, I invite everyone to offer their opinion. That's why I posted the thread in the first place. To have a stimulating conversation on a topic I found interesting. So please, get over your childish attempts at making a fuss and contribute something worth reading.

by Daddy

True, and I believe that goes with the territory. But we share our emotions with our family and that's not a bad thing. Why would it be wrong to share your emotions with others?

 

And that is where the balance comes in. This idea takes alot of communication and openness that most people aren't ready for. It takes alot of ugly honesty and truth to do it and it takes time from the ones you love and that love you when you share yourself with someone else. But again I don't think it's natural for us to pour all of ourselves into just one person and think that's enough. We are a social species and one of our basic human needs is the concept of variety.

 

I wouldn't be so bold as to ever say monogamy will ever go away. I simply believe the concept of open relationships are going to become much more prevelent and acceptable as time goes on.

 Oh no I have no problem with sharing myself and my emotions with others, I have a problem with others sharing themselves and their emotions with others. Sadly I don't think I'll catch the time when I could be this blunt and open with women about this "ugly truth"without getting slapped :D

But yeah, I agree with your last statement.

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by Daddy

 I don't really know what love is, but I certainly know what sex is.

This still falls in line with my original hypothesis. The concept that you're unable to form any meaningful connections would be just as similar as someone who's never had them from lack of experience.

I imagine sex for you has little meaning  for you beyond what masturbation would have for most other people.

I have no desire to form meaningful connections with people and sex doesn't require any deeper meaning beyond physical pleasure.

Oh come now kitten. Surely you can do better than recycling my own words... Or is it just too much for that little head of yours to come up with an original thought?

I didn't feel anything. I don't understand why they were so shy to kiss. If I was in the same situation there wouldn't of been such a delay.

I laughed through much of it.  I agree it seemed as if I was just watching actors who were directed to kiss. Some were better at it than others.  I didn't really feel anything towards it. 

The world has become too complicated for monogamy. I just do not believe it's possible for 2 people never to have sex with other people again. That does not even seem logical in that humans are sexual beings. 

The black white image gives it a little of either independent film or commercial   ish feeling.