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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

Unless you know exactly what he means when he says he loves you, you won't be able to determine if it's a lie or the truth. If it makes him happy to say it, who are you to take that away from him?

If your answer to that rhetorical question was that you do have the right to take it away from him, then use whatever behavior modification techniques you think will be most effective to try to make him stop saying that he loves you.

"I can accept his truth , whatever it is and love him and be there ...but being lied to drives me insane."

Can you accept the truth that he is a liar, or are you going to drive yourself insane trying to resolve this cognitive dissonance?

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

He probably thinks you lost your shit. 

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

If you want him to stay as your boyfriend, you need to suck his cock and swallow every last drop of his cum. No sociopath can resist a woman who does that.

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

Borderline (BPD) is nearly impossible (or very difficult) to cure, even with lengthy and intensive treatment. Borderline people should not enter into interpersonal relationships - or if/when they do, they should stick with other borderlines to keep the r/ship on a fair and balanced ground.

Leave that man alone so he can find a nice, normal and healthy girl. 

Seek therapy for yourself.

Good luck.

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

I'm a sociopath as well, and I never have any problems showing my lovers how much I value them. Unfortunately, other sociopaths don't function nearly as well as I do. The magnetic nature of my intimacy is  a commendable rarity, even among  empaths.

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

"I later became convinced he was a sociopath and attempted to get a confession. he admitted tohaving some of the traits. He asked me if I loved him.I said yes. He responded 'Then no, I am not a sociopath.'"

There are other disorders that manifest some of sociopathy's traits.

What makes you think his case is sociopathy?

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

Here are some things to look out for. These practices do not apply to sociopaths (though they may in certain circumstances) but to abusers in general:

 

  1. "Entitlement" ownership. Does this guy's behaviour towards you in public make it obvious that you belong to him? Does he regularly grope you and make public displays of affection that appear to be inappropriate to the situation as they are perceived by your friends? If he does and you've raised this as an objection to his behaviour, has be justified it by stating that he "just wants to protect" you from unwanted male attention?
  2. Surveillance monitoring. Does he constantly phone you, text you and stalk your Facebook account? Does he need to know exactly where you are at all times? Does he become angry if you don't immediately return missed calls from him? Does he attempt to subtlety regulate your dress (i.e. by stating that "that dress is a little low, isn't it?" or similar such crap)? In the latter of these instances he may offer you unlimited access to his finances. This may seem great at first, but he might be using his credit card statements to monitor your activities.
  3. Identity ownership. This one's going to be difficult to identify, as the process of identity ownership is insidious. It usually involves the combination of the above-mentioned practices of ownership, plus a few more. Often people realize that this form of manipulation occurs only when they find themselves engaging in a process of self-surveillance: they'll run to their friends and ask for reassurance that their dress isn't "too slutty" or they'll notice that their friends and family have begun to question their heightened states of anxiety surrounding issues of personal identity. You may also eventually come to realize that you have no sense of personal identity anymore, and that your behaviour is directed towards pleasing him for fear of angering him.
  4. Ownership via isolation. Has he told you that your friends and relatives are unworthy of your contact? Does he attempt to restrict the contact you have with them? This restricts your autonomy so that you become reliant on his companionship.
  5. Do the above-mentioned practices of control (if they are occurring in your relationship) only apply to you? If he insists that you "do need to dress up to go out" and that you should "just stay home" with him, does he often then go out on his own with his friends?

I'm labouring under the assumption that this guy isn't a sociopath (though I'm not disregarding the possibility that he might) be, because sociopathy is very rare and has been glamourized by popular media. So his identification with sociopathic traits may in fact represent another effort to control you. You might not be involved with a sociopath, but you may be involved with someone who is likely to escalate his methods of control to outright abuse. I myself have used many of these techniques in the past and find them extremely effective.

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

 

by Mike Hunt

Borderline (BPD) is nearly impossible (or very difficult) to cure, even with lengthy and intensive treatment. Borderline people should not enter into interpersonal relationships - or if/when they do, they should stick with other borderlines to keep the r/ship on a fair and balanced ground.

Leave that man alone so he can find a nice, normal and healthy girl. 

Seek therapy for yourself.

Good luck.

That's not true. Dialectical behavioural therapy has been shown to demonstrate positive results in therapy with borderline patients, and many of those diagnosed with BPD actually outgrow the condition even if they remain untreated (granted, this usually takes several decades).

Furthermore, this young lady appears to not know what actually constitutes borderline personality disorder, so your assertion that she is not "nice, normal and healthy" is based on false assumptions: hers and yours.

And now, because I am a narcissist, I've really had enough of this thread not being in some way centered upon myself. SPOILER ALERT: that is about to change.

So, a few of you may remember me bitching about my borderline neighbour's obsession with me and my difficulties in getting rid of her despite my extensive experience in removing borderlines from my life. I was getting ready to take some drastic action, which could've been severely detrimental to my career aspirations as it's nearly impossible to commit a violent crime these days without leaving traces of your DNA all over the show.

Instead, I tried one last resort. I created a multiaxial diagnosis for myself and applied multiple diagnoses to my personality. I announced that I had PTSD, GAD, alcohol dependence (I don't even drink) and substance abuse, and I stated that I was being evaluated for BPD... I began bombarding her with whiny texts about how horrible my life was due to my multiple diagnoses; I redirected every single conversation we had to my own (non-existent) personal problems; I sent her dozens of Facebook messages, each sent within a thirty-second time period, whining about how hard my life is given my multiple "diagnoses." Sure enough, she's now latched on to some other random woman and is in the process of letting me know that she's ignoring me. Punishing me, from her perspective, for having the audacity to not capitulate to her excessive need for attention. This entire process took forty-eight hours, whereas my alternative course of action would've taken three minutes, but I have no desire to go to prison. I've got too much shit to do on the outside.

I feel like celebrating. I'm glad that this forum exists for precisely this purpose - I can't be seen to be celebrating shit like this in public. After all, society's general recommendation for people such as myself is that "everyone is facing their own battles, so try not to be a cunt." For me, this doesn't imply that one cannot be a cunt at all; merely that you have to regulate the amount of your cuntiness in public. Since I'm training to be a doctor, the degree to which I am required to regulate my cuntiness involves the application of compassion to desperate freaks like my neighbour, which completely violates my tendency towards hating people and acting like a cunt in response to them.

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

 

by Helena

I've really had enough of this thread not being in some way centered upon myself. SPOILER ALERT: that is about to change.

 Hmmm...  Not sure if it's entirely in your control?  (Or even remotely.)

 

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I'm something like borderline and he's something like a socio!

You responded it and then quoted it. To some extent, this shizzle is clearly within my control.

Besides which, as a narcissist, I really don't care whether something actually in my control or not. I presume that everything is.

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