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by wilful

I think the douche who surrounds himself with good people and things, whether intentional or accidental, will become better or good the longer he/she does so

Its not as if he can do bunches of bad and duck in with the good for a day to alleviate his burdens...time matters

 Your forgetting how easy it is to deceive people. Take the serial killer for example:

By day, he's the nice, trusting, family man who seems friendly and caring.

By night, he's hunting, torturing and murdering 'innocent' people and he has no desire to stop.

One could say that, if he gets caught, that's karma in action, but it's not really because man-made laws against murder exist anyway.

If he never gets caught, then how does karma play a role in the lives of the victim's family and friends?

Simple answer: It doesn't, because karma doesn't exist.

People who believe in things like reincarnation would try to say that that serial killer would suffer for those transgressions in another life.

Seems legit, punishing someone else for crimes they didn't themselves do.

It is still their soul. They will never get out of the samsara that way.

I hope there IS karma.

then you will be locked away for all eternity , being forced to read over and over , your goddam posts, until your eyes bleed ink , and your brain turns itself into a sloth dropping. 

The truth is he will get caught because of his actions...the more action, the greater the possibility

You are giving karma credit for catching someone (which is impossible) instead of seeing that the person simply exposed himself because of his bad actions (negative karma).....

Open your mind up to notice he may get away with it so long due to doing more good than bad....i.e. staying around family, working, etc...doesnt matter if it is fake

@thrill...

You cannot bundle the victims up with the offender...to each his own...

Their choices lead them to victimization

by wilful

You are giving karma credit for catching someone (which is impossible) instead of seeing that the person simply exposed himself because of his bad actions (negative karma).....

 How am I giving karma credit when I don't even believe in it?

Law enforcement catches serial killers. Not some stupid fucking belief system that doesn't even exist in reality.

thanks ed for picking out more good points

1. my understanding of christ is it is the connection in the conscience between people where we agree on points of truth and laws. so by this mechanism in the human conscience, yes, we are constantly judging each other's perceptions and actions against what we consider to be truthful, fair, accurate, just. this process is naturally occurring

it is not necessarily "the afterlife" where the final judgment occurs. the jdugment is a collective process of ALL the truth being put to the test and picked part by conscience to reach a consensus on truth. i happen to believe this judgment process will culminate in this lifetime as a realized consensus on earth between people who are already working on it

so all the things past and present that people argue about as fair or unfair, or seeking justice for this, that or the other this IS the process of Justice coming to fruition on earth

it would take hashing out all religious and political differences to agree what to drop and what to agree on, what to change, and what to repair, before humanity settles in peace

i believe this is not only possible but inevitable based on how the human conscience is designed to seek to resolve any stressful fear or conflict for sustainable peace and security

by Edvard

So...What about that part where Christ is the only one who judges people and they get justice in the afterlife?

Anyway... I'm not only talking about innocent people dying, ffs. Just about how some people thrive at the expense of others while others don't even get a chance to do anything in this life but suffer. It happens, don't deny it. Justice is imbalanced on this world. I believe karma is a general notion some people need to believe in to do good and refrain from doing evil. Just like some believe justice obtained in the afterlife (Heaven, Hell) has the same purpose.

 yes, in any given timeframe there is so much past injustice that was never resolved, it keeps repeating and makes more people suffer the echoes of past actions.

you can either view it as an endless cycle where more and more wrongs will always stack on top of the old ones, so humanity is doomed, will never learn and keep having wars

or you can see cases where ppl got tired of this and sought to break the past cycles and patterns. mandela, gandhi, king, so many leaders pushed for new levels of unity to stop repeating the same wars from previous conflicts handed down. same with individual cases, each instance of abuse in relations, you can see the patterns handed down from previous generations.

if we quit ADDING more garbage to the pile, eventually the old stuff already in the system will work itself out. it is only FINITE. but the good things people do, will continue to pass forward and multiply. so eventually the good will equal or surpass the bad, the more people quit adding to the bad karma. 

faith in humanity, or good will/god's will by christ/the conscience to overcome these things is from forgiveness, and faith that this ends ill will, and allows good will and justice to come into the picture, heal the relations, correct the problems and repair damages.

we cannot change the past, but we can change our perceptions and prevent more of the same in the future. that is the most we can do to establish justice, is to be just ourselves.

it takes higher faith to see that this is enough to bring global justice to offset past wrongs

like people with small debts, when it is paid back they get small rewards in proportion, but people with greater debts or damages, receive restitution that is greater in reward. So on that collective scheme of things, it comes out even, but this takes faith to see that.

most people only need to see they are getting what they want, and don't care for the rest

as long as we work by agreement, everyone can get what they want, faith or no faith

by Thrill Kill

If only people died who DESERVED to die anyway, then humanity would be content to let justice kill off those people by accident, by war or crime. But because innocent people die, then we are reminded we must seek the real reasons and try to correct and prevent them.

In other words, karma doesn't exist because, if it did, humans wouldn't need to intervene. What goes around would naturally come around without forcing it to by 'correcting' the issue.

 ???

it's both things TK. karma does exist, it does move people to either intervene or not, or respond or not, or work on something else instead.

what comes around does come around, whether for some people it means letting go and letting things happen, while to others they try to force things. whatever we do we are following impulses based on logical or emotional choices influences by laws of karma

how you respond to me or Damaged is based on effects of past causes

so you are still following karma whether you don't try to respond, or you do actively respond, etc.

TK it is like having BIASES or preferences. you are influenced by your culture and the good and bad experiences of the past. I am acting on my ways and experiences. we all have them and they influence all that we do.

just because these laws exist doesn't mean we have to be enslaved to them.

that is why I seek to resolve past conflicts so anything negative quits repeating. otherwise it BIASES and limits our interactions and can block us from getting more of what we really want in the future

if we resolve the past, we can remove negative influences wasting our time on problems, so we can be more free to focus on more creative ideas and paths in the future

by Masuku

This is a very open question. How does one describe exactly what karma is? In the long run people might assume things that happen to them to be karma but, what if it also instills what hasn't happened to you? What if also includes someone that you care about losing out because of something horrible you did? In ideal this would include the bad things happen to good people. Throw a pebble into the water and it causes ripples yes. But the more pebbles thrown ( Pebbles = people actions) the more ripples occurs (effect from those peoples) the more they collide and in since other ripples cancel out. So in theory all possible effect from everyone effect everyone else's possible effects. I believe in laws of nature to govern humanity even if our eyes can not see every single reason behind it.

 Hi Masuku thanks for your deep reply.

I agree it can go as far as you need to understand the reasons and order for things.

and if you don't need to know, you won't focus that far but will be happy with what you do know.

I would add that even your ABILITY to understand or your "need to know basis" is also determined by karma. some things wouldn't happen "if you had known at the time."

so for some karma to work out, our perception is limited or blocked or misguided. the more people understand how karma can bias/block information and influence your decisions, of course, more people will want to clear their slates to make sure they are not stuck in past thinking that will cause mistakes to repeat. i think karma guides that, too.

i happen to believe we are reaching a state where more people are asking the reasons, where the sources of which karma is coming from, to resolve issues and achieve our goals

so it is getting to the point where more people need to know, and need to reach agreement on it. we are no longer content with just letting the same problems continue. so even our conscious awareness will grow in response to understanding and resolving karma

Thanks again for your thoughtful words!