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by anastacia

Great read and incredibly accurate.

Edvard's very comments are an attempt to create self doubt in you. So transparent and lame. 

Had I been attempting to gaslight Raven, I would have said something like this:

Raven is obviously trying to gaslight someone by making them appear to be the evil gaslighter. She assumes the victim role because that's what gaslighters do. It's also easy to blame failed relationships on gaslighting tactics and place the blame entirely on your partner. Truth is, she is a disfunctional individual doomed to fail in all her relationships, and cry "gaslight!" whenever others are honest with her and trying to point out her faults.

See the difference, Ana? Because I didn't say all that :D

 

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by Turncoat

I reacted to her the most because I read faces. Every emotion she did (except her violent tempers) was completely staged. It appeared as if she studied TV for how to behave in conversation. She was highly transparent.

Didn't really matter though, as the others would be too tired from her tirades to listen to me talk about what she was doing. A lot of what she did was behind the scenes, so I couldn't really reverse engineer all of it.

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Each time her tactics were discovered, she'd be kicked out of the group. Each time she was kicked out, she'd one by one systematically use her pity card to get herself back into their lives (even going as shamefully far as hurting herself and fake crying), until the next thing I knew, she's just there again like nothing happened.

 I have been the target of this type of person (within my family,  and with a therapist whom I believe was a sociopath,  and with a work colleague).  It is sickening,  like being drained by a disease.  And yet,  this is precisely the type of person whom the author of "Confessions of a Sociopath" says she wants to "make the world a safer place for".  Do you agree we should make the world a safer place for these types?  Why?  Because they want us to?  

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Aloof, quiet, mysterious, standoffish, mellow, hard working, blunt,
stuburn, independent, "free spirited (for those who get to know me
better), easy to get along with, and intelligent. 

You don't come off that different on here. To me, at least.

It's true I can be pretty stubborn myself sometimes. Not sure about rigid belief system, I can change my mind about anything and anyone if I have enough evidence about being wrong.

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 I am not trying to blame my failed relationships on my partners. I have always been honest about the part I play in my relationships. Even here. And you know it. So stop trying to make this into something that it isn't. Obviously this is a topic that is fucking with some preconcieved notion you had, and you don't like that being challenged. You have only this site to go on unless you have hacked into my emails. So don't go there with me, Edvard. 

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Uhm... That was just to show ana what I'd say if I wanted to mess with you. :D

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by Edvard

Uhm... That was just to show ana what I'd say if I wanted to mess with you. :D

 Well, it worked. And the reason it worked is because you-know-who has been spouting the same shit about me every time he goes after me using Elicit as his tool. You know how he pushes my buttons... same as he pushes yours. 

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I knew it would work because you're making it painfully obvious Raven... I think you're letting people inside your head much easier than you should.

I don't know of any man who pushes my buttons, so I'm not sure who you're talking about.

Edit: Oh, Tony. LMAO. Fuck him, he's an idiot.

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I didn't say you were gaslighting her. I said you were creating self doubt. If I'd said you were gaslighting her I would have said something like this:

Edvard is gaslighting you. 

See the difference, Ed? Because I didn't say all that :D 

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sigh You're lucky you're a female (somewhat) pretty face around here, because otherwise you'd have nothing to offer Anastacia. Not brains, not humor, not psychological insights, not anything...

Are you doubting yourself yet? :D

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 No... I know this. I have let people here into my head too easy. But I thought that it would help me to change the things about me that would better my life, and relationships. All it does is twist things up more, and causes the sicker side of my brain to fester. Elicit is a touchy subject with me. I am asking nicely for you to please not bring her up again. This thread is my own personal way of working things out in my head, along with the input of other people. I didn't mention her when I put it up, and I don't intend to mention her in this thread again.

Understand?

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