It takes a long time to prove such things, especially in a community that bases itself on negativity.
Can proving one's own existence be done ? Yes but probably not from just anyone. People need to walk the walk themselves, but they do not. Instead they stand still at what they have been told and have become comfrotable with. It sinks into their ego and makes them.
- Looking into ancient knowledge. Some don't want to believe it regardless of what they've done and what they knew. When looking into this with other things, it comes to a point where it has to be true.
- Looking into ET's. By default this would be off topic. But it's not. People are conditioned not to talk about this. It makes them feel shame. It's easier to just say they do not exist nor have we had any visitors, and they say it as though they've been watching or were there to see the truth in the matter. Like the ancient knlwoedge, researching this in depth also comes to a point where it has to be true, from cases to mass sightings, interesting hypnosis studies. etc. It get's pretty damn biblical, when something like this shouldn't since it wouldn't have anything to do with us or that. But apparantly it does.
- Quantum Physics. Before it would be a concept worthy of the normal ridicule, but science suggests this shit is real, so the masses believe in this without the need to experiment. It's magical, science will see what's happening without understanding it. On the other hand, magic is not real to those who place faith in science, but Quantum Physics is ( something to ponder)
- Sacred geometry. And I'm not even talking about the Golden ratio. There are things in there just as profound though. I'm almost certain I'm the only one here that has looked into this, probably, and by no means would that be a good thing.
From what I gather, we exist because we were in order to. What we are doing is making ourselves, and our reason for being here, is to make the Earth more like our home, which we are kinda failing at.
I think it's safer to say, If I am indeed right about the things I believe, then it does more damage than good for me to make mention of them in this community, cause there are those who would be damned to learn anything of importance off of me. It's an ego thing. Though regardless of belief, it's wiser to practice the values that are taught behind each and every one of my beliefs. They attract good results into one's life.
by Spatial MindI think it's safer to say, If I am indeed right about the things I believe, then it does more damage than good for me to make mention of them in this community, cause there are those who would be damned to learn anything of importance off of me. It's an ego thing. Though regardless of belief, it's wiser to practice the values that are taught behind each and every one of my beliefs. They attract good results into one's life.
You keep saying all this and yet never provide us with any proof. Just admit what you believe is simply a form of faith and we can just agree to disagree.
by Inquirer
by Spatial MindI think it's safer to say, If I am indeed right about the things I believe, then it does more damage than good for me to make mention of them in this community, cause there are those who would be damned to learn anything of importance off of me. It's an ego thing. Though regardless of belief, it's wiser to practice the values that are taught behind each and every one of my beliefs. They attract good results into one's life.
You keep saying all this and yet never provide us with any proof. Just admit what you believe is simply a form of faith and we can just agree to disagree.
There are only breadcrumbs, and everytime I toss one out, it you discard it.
If you quoted the rest of my post, it would pretty much prove what I just said in the ignored text.
I told you last time, there is no 1 answer that will prove anything. Information is fragmented.
Last time you were like this...
- You can't compare this and that.
- It's beyond our capacity to understand what is outside the universe.
- Rocks have no design. ( Meanwhile they have a very uniform molecular structure and there are different kinds of rocks. )
- The Golden Ratio doesn't mean anything.
I listed a few things that I've looked into, these things all click together like a puzzle and it paints a picture. The mysterious is elusive, even when investigating it.
I'm aware it sounds fraudulant when I say, this is something people have to look into for themselves before they can see the picture. But it's true, and if we are debating it in public, it's already been proven to me that you don't keep tabs on what you've picked up, but instead you make a conclusion based on discarding pieces of a puzzle, and in all honesty would it be worth it for me to write pages of things, that rely on other fragments to bear any fruit ?
I also told you, I was born into faith and drifted away from it. My new found belief in the prime creator is not really based on faith, for I am convinced it is real, through studies and experiences. It's not a matter of being told, it's what strikes me as obvious.
I'm sorry if it's important for you if I were to say this is a form of faith. We can agree to disagree without the need for me to step away from what I have learned.
Life is part of our making. There are countless near death experiences that are simular, everyone knows, or knows of someone who knows someone who experienced this. I stay away from Christians talking about this, I don't trust them, there are those who fake these stories with a Christian bias, where as the real cases spreak of no judgement, except it is us who judges outselves. Regardless if it is real or not, being doubtful right off the bat, in support of what you discard is not a wise thing to do.
I drink beer, therefore I piss copious amounts of urine.
That's about as philosophical I'll get tonight.
Now back to drinking beer and reading "Reference and Description: The Case against Two-Dimensionalism" by Scott Soames, so that I can obscure the truth more effectively in the future.
I guess my main gripe is that you make it sound as if you have already proved your beliefs valid and correct, while I can't help but draw parallels between what you say and what every other believer of faith says. Your perspective is very interesting from a philosophical point of view, but I still fail to see how you can claim it the most logically sound belief out there. I feel you can't really dodge the fact that there are simpler explanations than yours, but I guess this is where we disagree.
I can't drop this though, ha: if I throw a bunch of rocks so as to build a pile, is the structure of the pile created by a 'conscious' force or not? I am not aiming or throwing the rocks with any other purpose than to pile them somehow.
by InquirerI guess my main gripe is that you make it sound as if you have already proved your beliefs valid and correct, while I can't help but draw parallels between what you say and what every other believer of faith says. Your perspective is very interesting from a philosophical point of view, but I still fail to see how you can claim it the most logically sound belief out there. I feel you can't really dodge the fact that there are simpler explanations than yours, but I guess this is where we disagree.
Usually I suggest to anyone hearing me to proceed at their own risk, I just don't say it everytime.
I can't drop this though, ha: if I throw a bunch of rocks so as to build a pile, is the structure of the pile created by a 'conscious' force or not? I am not aiming or throwing the rocks with any other purpose than to pile them somehow.
Yes.
If you throw enough rocks, even at random, it will even look as though it has been created by a conscious force.
But to simplify. Are you a conscious force ? There you will find the same answer.