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FOTS said:

the far-left has taken over the democratic party (along with major news networks).

 That's a joke. Sanders, Cortez, or any other person you want to mention is not a far-left revolutionary, they are just as much as corrupt as any of the other politicians, your far-left conspiracy is ridiculous. What they call socialism, is social democracy, they are social democrats, they are not far-left. They just want welfare capitalism to pacify worker revolution. 

Historically speaking, I actually like to compare the mannerisms of social democrats to fascists, as they both speak of class collaboration, and in fact in the German Revolution of 1918, it was the Social Democratic party in power at the time that funded the nationalists in the Freikorps to slaughter Rosa Luxembourg, Karl Liebnecht and the rest of the Spartacists. 


Welfarism /=/ Marxian Socialism. 

If you really want to try to claim such as fact, then I suppose the Iron Chancellor of Deutsches Kaiserreich, Otto Von Bismarck was a true comrade when he brought in welfare programs in his Anti-Socialist policies.

In regards to Trump getting impeached, it's whatever for me, if I still would have to go back to 2016, and pick him or Hillary, it'd be him, because the Clintons are fucking trash and I'd love to watch her get beat down to death. Even with saying this, I don't think anything would inherently change, as I view Republicans and Democrats as two sides of the same coin that is Capitalism, one wants more welfare and social programs the other doesn't, but both still get involved in war, and are interested in expansion of Capital. 

Sintetika said: 

FOTS said:

the far-left has taken over the democratic party (along with major news networks).

 That's a joke. Sanders, Cortez, or any other person you want to mention is not a far-left revolutionary, they are just as much as corrupt as any of the other politicians, your far-left conspiracy is ridiculous. What they call socialism, is social democracy, they are social democrats, they are not far-left. They just want welfare capitalism to pacify worker revolution. 

Historically speaking, I actually like to compare the mannerisms of social democrats to fascists, as they both speak of class collaboration, and in fact in the German Revolution of 1918, it was the Social Democratic party in power at the time that funded the nationalists in the Freikorps to slaughter Rosa Luxembourg, Karl Liebnecht and the rest of the Spartacists. 


Welfarism /=/ Marxian Socialism. 

If you really want to try to claim such as fact, then I suppose the Iron Chancellor of Deutsches Kaiserreich, Otto Von Bismarck was a true comrade when he brought in welfare programs in his Anti-Socialist policies.

 im just quoting this so people can read it again. You should read up on what sanders actually believes vs what he runs his campaigns on

FOTS said: 

Sintetika said: 

FOTS said:

the far-left has taken over the democratic party (along with major news networks).

 That's a joke. Sanders, Cortez, or any other person you want to mention is not a far-left revolutionary, they are just as much as corrupt as any of the other politicians, your far-left conspiracy is ridiculous. What they call socialism, is social democracy, they are social democrats, they are not far-left. They just want welfare capitalism to pacify worker revolution. 

Historically speaking, I actually like to compare the mannerisms of social democrats to fascists, as they both speak of class collaboration, and in fact in the German Revolution of 1918, it was the Social Democratic party in power at the time that funded the nationalists in the Freikorps to slaughter Rosa Luxembourg, Karl Liebnecht and the rest of the Spartacists. 


Welfarism /=/ Marxian Socialism. 

If you really want to try to claim such as fact, then I suppose the Iron Chancellor of Deutsches Kaiserreich, Otto Von Bismarck was a true comrade when he brought in welfare programs in his Anti-Socialist policies.

 im just quoting this so people can read it again. You should read up on what sanders actually believes vs what he runs his campaigns on

 Then could you refer me to where you read what he actually believes in? Let's assume that somehow that is correct, that doesn't mean his end goal aligns with that of my ideology and my ideological brethren. 

Sintetika said: 

FOTS said: 

Sintetika said: 

FOTS said:

the far-left has taken over the democratic party (along with major news networks).

 That's a joke. Sanders, Cortez, or any other person you want to mention is not a far-left revolutionary, they are just as much as corrupt as any of the other politicians, your far-left conspiracy is ridiculous. What they call socialism, is social democracy, they are social democrats, they are not far-left. They just want welfare capitalism to pacify worker revolution. 

Historically speaking, I actually like to compare the mannerisms of social democrats to fascists, as they both speak of class collaboration, and in fact in the German Revolution of 1918, it was the Social Democratic party in power at the time that funded the nationalists in the Freikorps to slaughter Rosa Luxembourg, Karl Liebnecht and the rest of the Spartacists. 


Welfarism /=/ Marxian Socialism. 

If you really want to try to claim such as fact, then I suppose the Iron Chancellor of Deutsches Kaiserreich, Otto Von Bismarck was a true comrade when he brought in welfare programs in his Anti-Socialist policies.

 im just quoting this so people can read it again. You should read up on what sanders actually believes vs what he runs his campaigns on

 Then could you refer me to where you read what he actually believes in? Let's assume that somehow that is correct, that doesn't mean his end goal aligns with that of my ideology and my ideological brethren. 

 Sanders is still a hard socialist  He supported cuba when it was unpopular to and he still wants their government system in the US.  He is the quintessential hard socialist.  Im not even sure why hes still a citizen of this country other than for the wealth and power he acquires by staying.

Ideological brethren?? nobody talks like that man

At 78 years of age, plus the DNC rigging elections against him. ( they'll do the same thing to Yang while stuffing Biden and Warren down your throat ) Bernie Sanders doesn't have a shot at becoming POTUS in that lifetime. 

As for Socialism, there is a lot of that going on in the US which is how American environments have infrastructure, and why it's citizens pay taxes. On the most part it's nothing more than shared contributions while people carry on pulling their weight, while the government allocates the proceedings to suit economic needs.

Socialized healthcare is fantastic. I think something is wrong with US tax pricing as it's higher than Canada's taxes while we enjoy paid for surgeries and other medical goodies. Canadians never even heard of co-pay, and we see how American's fear getting ill as it can bring down the whole nest due to the cost of healthcare.

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On Topic, Trump is impeached. This means his powers will be revoked, and now it's out of the House's hands and it'll be up to the Senate to remove him.

The Senate is dominated by Republicans who 100% oppose Impeachment.

This can turn into a Supreme Court case. I think we'll see things happen very quickly.

For now Mike Pence will hold office, while Nancy Pelosi lol will act as second in command.

If you ask me, this was the Democrat's Kamikazi move. They are so unpopular right now as they insist they are defending democracy, which is the opposite of what they are doing.  

Spatial Mind said: 

At 78 years of age, plus the DNC rigging elections against him. ( they'll do the same thing to Yang while stuffing Biden and Warren down your throat ) Bernie Sanders doesn't have a shot at becoming POTUS in that lifetime. 

As for Socialism, there is a lot of that going on in the US which is how American environments have infrastructure, and why it's citizens pay taxes. On the most part it's nothing more than shared contributions while people carry on pulling their weight, while the government allocates the proceedings to suit economic needs.

Socialized healthcare is fantastic. I think something is wrong with US tax pricing as it's higher than Canada's taxes while we enjoy paid for surgeries and other medical goodies. Canadians never even heard of co-pay, and we see how American's fear getting ill as it can bring down the whole nest due to the cost of healthcare.

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On Topic, Trump is impeached. This means his powers will be revoked, and now it's out of the House's hands and it'll be up to the Senate to remove him.

The Senate is dominated by Republicans who 100% oppose Impeachment.

This can turn into a Supreme Court case. I think we'll see things happen very quickly.

For now Mike Pence will hold office, while Nancy Pelosi lol will act as second in command.

If you ask me, this was the Democrat's Kamikazi move. They are so unpopular right now as they insist they are defending democracy, which is the opposite of what they are doing.  

 Yes there are aspects of social welfare systems in the US.  I'm fine with that but I do have a problem with the pure socialism that Sanders so loves.  Socialized healthcare is a joke, dont even get me started on that, start a thread about it if you want to discuss.  I know your country has socialized healthcare and I'm sure youre weeell aware of its inefficiencies:

"Patients in Canada waited an average of 19.8 weeks to receive treatment, regardless of whether they were able to see a specialist or not."

-information confirmed by Fraser Institute

In fact, I hear that most doctors in Canada from the free healthcare system will tell you to find a PRIVATE doctor so you don't have to wait 19 weeks to receive medical treatment. Funny how that is!

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Trump is still the president, he is not impeached.  He hasn't had any presidential powers removed due to the house approving both articles of impeachment.  We all know that the senate will overturn the articles of impeachment because a) the senate is majority republican and b) there is no evidence of illegal activity. 

Mike Pence is not holding office and Nancy Pelosi is not acting as second in command, again because the articles of impeachment have not passed through the house yet.

FOTS said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

At 78 years of age, plus the DNC rigging elections against him. ( they'll do the same thing to Yang while stuffing Biden and Warren down your throat ) Bernie Sanders doesn't have a shot at becoming POTUS in that lifetime. 

As for Socialism, there is a lot of that going on in the US which is how American environments have infrastructure, and why it's citizens pay taxes. On the most part it's nothing more than shared contributions while people carry on pulling their weight, while the government allocates the proceedings to suit economic needs.

Socialized healthcare is fantastic. I think something is wrong with US tax pricing as it's higher than Canada's taxes while we enjoy paid for surgeries and other medical goodies. Canadians never even heard of co-pay, and we see how American's fear getting ill as it can bring down the whole nest due to the cost of healthcare.

.

.

On Topic, Trump is impeached. This means his powers will be revoked, and now it's out of the House's hands and it'll be up to the Senate to remove him.

The Senate is dominated by Republicans who 100% oppose Impeachment.

This can turn into a Supreme Court case. I think we'll see things happen very quickly.

For now Mike Pence will hold office, while Nancy Pelosi lol will act as second in command.

If you ask me, this was the Democrat's Kamikazi move. They are so unpopular right now as they insist they are defending democracy, which is the opposite of what they are doing.  

 Yes there are aspects of social welfare systems in the US.  I'm fine with that but I do have a problem with the pure socialism that Sanders so loves. 

I'm not even talking about social assistance. Your roads and streets, the utilities for water and electricity, public parks, Fireman, Police. Anything the government spends your money on. 

Socialized healthcare is a joke, dont even get me started on that, start a thread about it if you want to discuss.  I know your country has socialized healthcare and I'm sure youre weeell aware of its inefficiencies:

"Patients in Canada waited an average of 19.8 weeks to receive treatment, regardless of whether they were able to see a specialist or not."

-information confirmed by Fraser Institute

In fact, I hear that most doctors in Canada from the free healthcare system will tell you to find a PRIVATE doctor so you don't have to wait 19 weeks to receive medical treatment. Funny how that is!

I've always had a family doctor and when I want to see him I will call the very morning to get booked usually the same day. He's also the newer one. The guy that took over that place, my last doctor got charged with sexual harassment and vanished. If I need a referral, I go in chat with the doctor, he check the ears and all that and asks me why I want or need a referral then he writes one. ( Asked him to prescribe me medical cannabis once but he refused ) 

I've been to walk-in clinics before too, all in the same day. Just need to show health card. All medical records are then available to the doctor.

As for the wait times, there are such cases in the US too, sometimes people waiting up to 6 months. But 20 days average I've read. Meanwhile most of you never seen it take forever.

I personally never had to wait several days or weeks. I had a gallstone attack, went to the hospital, and I honestly couldn't tell you if I waited 3 or 6 hours I was in a lot of pain, but once the wait was over, they put in iv in my hand, pain melted away, and a few hours later I was scanned and they found a 1mm stone in my bladder. I would say 10 hours in total. 

If it's really serious or it cannot be done in Canada, Canada will fly us anywhere in the world to have it done.

Last time I went for an ear infection and I was out in 4 hours, and the time before I arrived in an ambulance and got immediate service. I was out the same night.

Canadians also have longer lifespans.

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Trump is still the president, he is not impeached.  He hasn't had any presidential powers removed due to the house approving both articles of impeachment.  We all know that the senate will overturn the articles of impeachment because a) the senate is majority republican and b) there is no evidence of illegal activity. 

That's what I'm saying, except he is impeached not expelled nor will he fall from this.

Mike Pence is not holding office and Nancy Pelosi is not acting as second in command, again because the articles of impeachment have not passed through the house yet.

 You mean the Senate.

Spatial Mind said: 

FOTS said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

At 78 years of age, plus the DNC rigging elections against him. ( they'll do the same thing to Yang while stuffing Biden and Warren down your throat ) Bernie Sanders doesn't have a shot at becoming POTUS in that lifetime. 

As for Socialism, there is a lot of that going on in the US which is how American environments have infrastructure, and why it's citizens pay taxes. On the most part it's nothing more than shared contributions while people carry on pulling their weight, while the government allocates the proceedings to suit economic needs.

Socialized healthcare is fantastic. I think something is wrong with US tax pricing as it's higher than Canada's taxes while we enjoy paid for surgeries and other medical goodies. Canadians never even heard of co-pay, and we see how American's fear getting ill as it can bring down the whole nest due to the cost of healthcare.

.

.

On Topic, Trump is impeached. This means his powers will be revoked, and now it's out of the House's hands and it'll be up to the Senate to remove him.

The Senate is dominated by Republicans who 100% oppose Impeachment.

This can turn into a Supreme Court case. I think we'll see things happen very quickly.

For now Mike Pence will hold office, while Nancy Pelosi lol will act as second in command.

If you ask me, this was the Democrat's Kamikazi move. They are so unpopular right now as they insist they are defending democracy, which is the opposite of what they are doing.  

 Yes there are aspects of social welfare systems in the US.  I'm fine with that but I do have a problem with the pure socialism that Sanders so loves. 

I'm not even talking about social assistance. Your roads and streets, the utilities for water and electricity, public parks, Fireman, Police. Anything the government spends your money on.  

I actually couldn't agree more. Im still lost on where the money is going that should be used for infrastructure. Why in the world are our roads in such poor condition? And no, we absolutely shouldnt take money away from the military to use for infrastructure. Security is crucial. We should however be taking the funding from the politicians salaries and allocating an equal portion of funding from all sectors toward infrastructure: that way the loss in funding from where it came from isnt noticed. And while im on that point, we should also be decreasing the budget by 1% across the board each year in an effort to tackle the federal deficit: too bad politicians won't allow that to happen. 

FOTS said:

Sanders is still a hard socialist He supported cuba when it was unpopular to and he still wants their government system in the US. He is the quintessential hard socialist. Im not even sure why hes still a citizen of this country other than for the wealth and power he acquires by staying.

Ideological brethren?? nobody talks like that man

 Just because he said he supports Cuba back in the day, doesn't make him a "hard socialist" his reading of socialist societies is misunderstood. He said bread lines and food rationing was a good thing. 

Breadlines were mostly a thing in the Gorbachev era, because of how the Soviet Union's economy was degrading post 1953, which by the way, was being caused because of privatization of the economy, up until it was Gorbachev who wanted to implement a scandinavian model, thus bringing back Welfare Capitalism. I do not want to see breadlines, that just shows how shit the country is doing. America had breadlines in the Great Depression, that's not a good thing to see at all. 

Even if we want to assume that somehow Bernie wants to bring Communism, he couldn't do it. Do you really think that if he became president, which I find to be a hard IF, that he would just be able to snap his fingers, and seize the means of production, and turn everything into a socialist economy? No. Democrats and Republicans are both influenced or apart of the bourgeois class, we don't live in a democracy, not a real one at least, we live in an oligarchy where money influences politics, and if Bernie were to somehow win, there's nothing he could do to already change a corrupt system. Perhaps, Bernie is just in it for his own power? I mean I wouldn't call that too far-fetched. But still, it wouldn't matter. Why do you think he got rigged in the DNC? If you want my honest view, I hate people like Bernie, and AOC more than Trump, I hate their ilk more than conservatives, and I would love to beat the ever loving shit out of them, do you want to know why? Because they are nothing more than facades. They speak of helping the people, they speak of bringing good change, but in the end they fuck over the people, and they pacify them with social programs. 


Liberalism is an ideology for snakes and snakes should be stomped out. 


If Bernie was a comrade, he wouldn't do REFORM, he would do REVOLUTION. Reformism doesn't change the inherent conditions of our society. 


He's not revolutionary, in fact he still has done things that prove he's not a true comrade.

-Voted to extradite Assata Shakur from Cuba. Obviously it failed, she's still in Cuba, but that proves he's not great.
-Supports Israeli. 
-Advocated for violence against Syria and Bashur Al Assad


The list could go on more if you want? He can say he supports Cuba, but his actions in regards to support for the American System and the continuation of US Imperialism outweighs his so called Socialist stance. 

Che Guevara, and Castro would be disgusted by Bernie.