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Proverbs 31:30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.

I can never get over their uses of the word "fear"...

"Fleeting" though, everything's fleeting. All we have is "the moment". 

It's about time I share some of my "Good Book" verses: 

Fight Club said:

How I met Tyler was I went to a nude beach. This was the very end of summer, and I was asleep. Tyler was naked and sweating, gritty with sand, his hair wet and stringy, hanging in his face.

Tyler had been around a long time before we met.

Tyler was pulling driftwood logs out of the surf and dragging them up the beach. In the wet sand, he'd already planted a half circle of logs so they stood a few inches apart and as tall as his eyes. There were four logs, and when I woke up, I watched Tyler pull a fifth log up the beach. Tyler dug a hole under one end of the log, then lifted the other end until the log slid into the hole and stood there at a slight angle.

You wake up at the beach.

We were the only people on the beach.

With a stick, Tyler drew a straight line in the sand several feet away. Tyler went back to straighten the log by stamping sand around its base.

I was the only person watching this.

Tyler called over, "Do you know what time it is?"

I always wear a watch.

"Do you know what time it is?"

I asked, where?

"Right here,"Tyler said. "Right now."

It was 4:06 P.m.

After a while, Tyler sat cross-legged in the shadow of the standing logs. Tyler sat for a few minutes, got up and took a swim, pulled on a T-shirt and a pair of sweatpants, and started to leave. I had to ask.

I had to know what Tyler was doing while I was asleep.

I asked if Tyler was an artist.

Tyler shrugged and showed me how the five standing logs were wider at the base. Tyler showed me the line he'd drawn in the sand, and how he'd use the line to gauge the shadow cast by each log.

What Tyler had created was the shadow of a giant hand. Only now the fingers were Nosferatu-long and the thumb was too short, but he said how at exactly four-thirty the hand was perfect.

The giant shadow hand was perfect for one minute, and for one perfect minute Tyler had sat in the palm of a perfection he'd created himself.

One minute was enough, Tyler said, a person had to work hard for it, but a minute of perfection was worth the effort. A moment was the most you could ever expect from perfection. 

 

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But I'll just read parts of the page to you...

The 144, 000 in revelations 7 is then divided by Jewish tribe. So this number seems to only correspond to those saved by the Old Testament covenant.

And I heard the number of the sealed, 144,000, sealed from every tribe of the sons of Israel: 12,000 from the tribe of Judah were sealed, 12,000 from the tribe of Reuben, 12,000 from the tribe of Gad, 12,000 from the tribe of Asher, 12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali, 12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh, 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon, 12,000 from the tribe of Levi, 12,000 from the tribe of Issachar, 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun, 12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,12,000 from the tribe of Benjamin were sealed.

After it says who is saved in Israel the next verses directly after in revelations seven describe all those saved by the New Testament covenant in Christ.

After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God.

Sounds like countless people are saved by the blood of Christ and only 144, 000 are saved among Israel when you read the ENTIRE page of revelations 7. Especially since the verse right after the 144, 000 says "after this". Right after that more were added in by the blood of Christ.

 

Just in case you didn't see this part.  

"These Jews are “sealed,” which means they have the special protection of God from all of the divine judgments and from the Antichrist to perform their mission during the tribulation period (see Revelation 6:17, in which people will wonder who can stand from the wrath to come). The tribulation period is a future seven-year period of time in which God will enact divine judgment against those who reject Him and will complete His plan of salvation for the nation of Israel. All of this is according to God’s revelation to the prophet Daniel (Daniel 9:24–27). The 144,000 Jews are a sort of “first fruits” (Revelation 14:4) of a redeemed Israel which has been previously prophesied (Zechariah 12:10; Romans 11:25–27), and their mission seems to be to evangelize the post-rapture world and proclaim the gospel during the tribulation period. As a result of their ministry, millions—“a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language” (Revelation 7:9)—will come to faith in Christ."

- Got Christian questions.

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The bible says "worldly" wisdom is bad. Then it says true wisdom is fearing God.

Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight.

Have you ever read the book of wisdom? It's mostly the catholics who read it but it was part of the old canon. I looked up the oldest bible canon list and it was included.

Book of wisdom.

 

 

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Why bother reading the book of wisdom when wisdom is meaningless? Posted Image

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He is worse than Palepeach.

Well damn, what ever happened to "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself"?

 I like Palepeach you're the one who found her appalling for not being body positive. I don't but for reference you should like Satan less than PalePeach. 

God is relateable for me because He became a man and suffered as one of us. Christ became an actual man not just an angel. He worked, he sweat, he cried, he sighed and he died.

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Hebrews 4:15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.

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He is worse than Palepeach.

Well damn, what ever happened to "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself"?

 I like Palepeach you're the one who found her appalling for not being body positive. I don't but for reference you should like Satan less than PalePeach. 

It didn't look that way until you were called on it. It looked more like you were trying to appeal to some sort of hateful common ground or something. 

God is relateable for me because He became a man and suffered as one of us. Christ became an actual man not just an angel. He worked, he sweat, he cried, he sighed and he died.

...but God knows all of space and time at once, meaning he'd have already known Jesus' entire life before it was ever experienced. This means every action Jesus did was extremely intentional and planned well in advance, IN A TIMELESS WAY

The toil (which is meaningless) means nothing if in any capacity he could see it all in advance. He still wasn't one of us at all, and remains entirely unrelatable until we ourselves can also predict our own futures (and even then, that'd just scratch the surface of this Time Lord phenomenon). His understanding of time would still be wildly different from our own. 

He was never an "actual man", he was a simulacrum of one, a mere imitation. He couldn't even stick to the constraints of mankind, outright using cheat codes to walk on water to demonstrate his power and privileges that we will never know. 

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Conservatives have it right, a valueless and nihilistic society ultimately leads to a society of crime, drug-addiction, high suicide rates, and terrorism - a society of tragedy that merely changes for the sake of change do to the novelty of it, liquidating all value. 

Does the left argue in favor of "valueless nihilism"? 

Both the right and the left do, in similar ways as it relates to the neo movements and in different ways as it relates to what policies one would consider to be far-left or far-right, but the issue of nihilism and the deconstruction of meaning are not consequences of politics. 

The primary problem is the mode of civilization we find ourselves. We live during the rise of the Cosmopolis which all in all is the most artificial mode of civilization. An age ruled by pragmatism in which the world is treated as a super-market is understandably empty. Hence leftist and rightist politics do not merely argue in favor of an empty world, they are politics that exist in an empty world and are incapable of changing it. This incapability is a reflection of the post-modern world which has destroyed our ability to be sure of anything. This brings insecurity into everything: social affairs, economics, politics, philosophy, and even science. By that insecurity these forms continue to lose their ability to promote meaning and by effect promote meaninglessness. 

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in hell i will be in good company =)

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You say Him being able to walk on water and perform miracles makes Him less human. He was fully man and fully God. The bible promises that some people will do greater miracles than Christ. Miracles are given to those who have faith. It includes the gift of prophecy (especially in end times).

John 14:12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.

Acts 2:17-18 “And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.

 

 

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