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Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:  

I know the struggle sometimes of remembering exactly what words another person said (or figuring what to search for if it hadn't been seen before), but why not search by username? 

Because then it shows everything they posted and it's a fucking lot to go through, I can't even do it by dates all that often because this place has its own separate timezone

If you know who's post you're looking for, the posts are otherwise in order. Just skip enough pages ahead until it fits around the timeline you're looking for. 

Search-by-date purely by itself would be nice, but this is what we have in the meantime. 

Sure he has no reason for it but let's not forget she has tried to be civil and offered to bury the hatchet

Offering to stop former animosity doesn't just resolve all blame like some giant "Sorry" spell being cast, the other party in these cases is entitled to their feelings. 

Diplomacy happens from catering to both sides, not just throwing out an offer and acting like the other person's immediately the bad guy for turning it down. There has to be some reason why she deserves to be forgiven, otherwise it's just some weird whim of the moment or something. 

It doesn't take away that she's open to it and has been open to discussing the events to get better understanding. 

Her sense of character takes away from it far more than what the gesture serves to add. 

She's attempted to have actual conversation but the fact is that he's biased towards her and it it shows even as an admin issue

Her reporting actual symptoms is when the talks have gone the most smoothly. 

Is there other topics?, can link pls? Does this one time make it okay to dismiss it then? 

Examples of her (almost) doing it right? Sure:

400 bad request (Meta tries to be of assistance, she remains unhelpful, but she did report the 400 error and the talks went fairly smoothly). 

Good said:

I can't help you if i don't get information

no one else seems to have this issue.

i can't talk in chat anymore (more drama mongering and pushing for people to go to Luna's, but she does report the 400 once again) 
how do i get verified (she was almost kinda normal in this one)

Notice how when he's civil she's civil

Okay, it just hit me. 

Is this a battle of who ought to be polite to the other first? 

If so that's silly, as in general he has no reason to be nice to her if she's not giving him something of use to his website. 

notice how he didn't immediately call her a liar and then they even bantered in that first one

Notice how she actually gave symptoms of what was wrong with the website in spite of her keeping up her usual antics? 

That alone is the difference worth noting. You're at this point like "Well why didn't he respond in a way that'd let her elaborate" when she could have just said it. 

the second one they're still pretty chill and again it's not her starting a revolution making a comment about Luna's

Never said it was, just called it pushing, which has in general been an on and off theme of hers. 

She's open to doing that, and "the second one" was an example of her doing something kinda right almost maybe. 

and it's not like people have to use this site exclusively so I'm not sure why it would bother you or meta that she asked as much. 

Not the point of why that was linked. 

Her in relation to Luna only serves as a means of reading her sense of character, gauging motivations. It's not like being pro-Luna here is against any sort of rules, that'd be crazy. 

And in the how do I get verified she asks a legitimate question and is ignored....

Yeah, it's why she appeared kinda normal (and she wasn't ignored, she was verified, it just wasn't a matter of banter within that topic). 

And how this time he just straight up calls her a liar.

I mean, go figure why he might if you put your feet in his shoes for a minute. 

If we want actual solutions here though, she ought to report symptoms of her problems with the site instead of just making it into some kinda shtick, unless of course shtick is the goal. 

Or did you mean examples of other stuff, like her wanting Luna to be in charge instead, or when she's just complaining and digging into people instead of actually working towards solving problems?

I'm not totally sure how that's stuff got anything to do with what we're talking about? Is it related to glitches or issues with the site

Just wasn't sure what you meant you wanted examples of. 

She can dig into him all she wants, but she ought to expect that it might at least slow down the process. Past a point she began going on more about the website generally instead of actually pointing out what's going on in more specific ways while otherwise making herself look less like she's looking for assistance and more so like she's looking for attention. 

It's about framing, and while he ought to be willing to help out users and degenerates alike, it's like he said above: "I can't help you if i don't get information". 

She didn't dig into him in the other thread tho

You mean the thread I literally linked as an example of her (almost) doing it right? Yes, that's why I linked it. 

This isn't her usual behavior, those were examples of her being more productive. 

Do you think it's fair for him to have just immediately called her a liar because he didn't encounter the same issues as she did?

No, but she could do more than just saying "shit sucks" while trying to dig into elements of him as a person and expecting things to just work out with her being treated politely. 

Worse yet she hadn't name the issues exactly so what would he be looking for then? You're talking about framing but somehow miss his response frame

Is she only able to say what's going wrong on this website if someone asks her directly? 

What? 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said:  

I know the struggle sometimes of remembering exactly what words another person said (or figuring what to search for if it hadn't been seen before), but why not search by username? 

Because then it shows everything they posted and it's a fucking lot to go through, I can't even do it by dates all that often because this place has its own separate timezone

If you know who's post you're looking for, the posts are otherwise in order. Just skip enough pages ahead until it fits around the timeline you're looking for. 

Search-by-date purely by itself would be nice, but this is what we have in the meantime. 

Sure he has no reason for it but let's not forget she has tried to be civil and offered to bury the hatchet

Offering to stop former animosity doesn't just resolve all blame like some giant "Sorry" spell being cast, the other party in these cases is entitled to their feelings. 

Diplomacy happens from catering to both sides, not just throwing out an offer and acting like the other person's immediately the bad guy for turning it down. There has to be some reason why she deserves to be forgiven, otherwise it's just some weird whim of the moment or something. 

It doesn't take away that she's open to it and has been open to discussing the events to get better understanding. 

Her sense of character takes away from it far more than what the gesture serves to add. 

She's attempted to have actual conversation but the fact is that he's biased towards her and it it shows even as an admin issue

Her reporting actual symptoms is when the talks have gone the most smoothly. 

Is there other topics?, can link pls? Does this one time make it okay to dismiss it then? 

Examples of her (almost) doing it right? Sure:

400 bad request (Meta tries to be of assistance, she remains unhelpful, but she did report the 400 error and the talks went fairly smoothly). 

Good said:

I can't help you if i don't get information

no one else seems to have this issue.

i can't talk in chat anymore (more drama mongering and pushing for people to go to Luna's, but she does report the 400 once again) 
how do i get verified (she was almost kinda normal in this one)

Notice how when he's civil she's civil

Okay, it just hit me. 

Is this a battle of who ought to be polite to the other first? 

If so that's silly, as in general he has no reason to be nice to her if she's not giving him something of use to his website. 

notice how he didn't immediately call her a liar and then they even bantered in that first one

Notice how she actually gave symptoms of what was wrong with the website in spite of her keeping up her usual antics? 

That alone is the difference worth noting. You're at this point like "Well why didn't he respond in a way that'd let her elaborate" when she could have just said it. 

the second one they're still pretty chill and again it's not her starting a revolution making a comment about Luna's

Never said it was, just called it pushing, which has in general been an on and off theme of hers. 

She's open to doing that, and "the second one" was an example of her doing something kinda right almost maybe. 

and it's not like people have to use this site exclusively so I'm not sure why it would bother you or meta that she asked as much. 

Not the point of why that was linked. 

Her in relation to Luna only serves as a means of reading her sense of character, gauging motivations. It's not like being pro-Luna here is against any sort of rules, that'd be crazy. 

And in the how do I get verified she asks a legitimate question and is ignored....

Yeah, it's why she appeared kinda normal (and she wasn't ignored, she was verified, it just wasn't a matter of banter within that topic). 

And how this time he just straight up calls her a liar.

I mean, go figure why he might if you put your feet in his shoes for a minute. 

If we want actual solutions here though, she ought to report symptoms of her problems with the site instead of just making it into some kinda shtick, unless of course shtick is the goal. 

Or did you mean examples of other stuff, like her wanting Luna to be in charge instead, or when she's just complaining and digging into people instead of actually working towards solving problems?

I'm not totally sure how that's stuff got anything to do with what we're talking about? Is it related to glitches or issues with the site

Just wasn't sure what you meant you wanted examples of. 

 me saying the site is glitchy is not an antic, and that would be where meta could have simply asked for more info. and as far as i know, tony was the one that verified me, or at least responded to me having said i couldnt type in chat

yea why would i write out a detailed explanation unless asked? how would i know that isnt just how it is here? this is just retarded at this point, u want to protect meta from the notion that he was wrong in thinking im just lying anytime i say anything because maybe u prefer him being molded by what u tell him the facts are. that's something u love to do and even cawk said this of u.

Turncoat said: 

She can dig into him all she wants, but she ought to expect that it might at least slow down the process. Past a point she began going on more about the website generally instead of actually pointing out what's going on in more specific ways while otherwise making herself look less like she's looking for assistance and more so like she's looking for attention. 

It's about framing, and while he ought to be willing to help out users and degenerates alike, it's like he said above: "I can't help you if i don't get information". 

She didn't dig into him in the other thread tho

You mean the thread I literally linked as an example of her (almost) doing it right? Yes, that's why I linked it. 

This isn't her usual behavior, those were examples of her being more productive. 

Do you think it's fair for him to have just immediately called her a liar because he didn't encounter the same issues as she did?

No, but she could do more than just saying "shit sucks" while trying to dig into elements of him as a person and expecting things to just work out with her being treated politely. 

Worse yet she hadn't name the issues exactly so what would he be looking for then? You're talking about framing but somehow miss his response frame

Is she only able to say what's going wrong on this website if someone asks her directly? 

What? 

 I'm saying if he didn't have the knowledge of the stuff going on for mobile users he wouldn't have been able to get the same glitch, like I said the problem here is his outright dismissal and then calling her a liar if he only had computer issues to go by instead of mobile ones

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

You really don't see her trying to stir the pot, or are you merely turning a blind eye? 

No, if others found it that way they wouldn't have contributed

Contributed to which? 

 To the glitch thread sug made

So you're saying that because people had real glitches to report, that her making a series of posts and hosting a series of topics to jab at there being glitches were all made with the aim of being constructive? 

Come on. 

 Are these series of posts and topics the ones you linked and are currently talking about?

No, those were just examples of her kinda getting it right. 

 Link others pls

Other what's? 

It'd be faster if you just searched for whatever you aren't describing. 

 . 

 

Sure he has no reason for it but let's not forget she has tried to be civil and offered to bury the hatchet

Offering to stop former animosity doesn't just resolve all blame like some giant "Sorry" spell being cast, the other party in these cases is entitled to their feelings. 

Diplomacy happens from catering to both sides, not just throwing out an offer and acting like the other person's immediately the bad guy for turning it down. There has to be some reason why she deserves to be forgiven, otherwise it's just some weird whim of the moment or something. 

It doesn't take away that she's open to it and has been open to discussing the events to get better understanding. 

Her sense of character takes away from it far more than what the gesture serves to add. 

She's attempted to have actual conversation but the fact is that he's biased towards her and it it shows even as an admin issue

Her reporting actual symptoms is when the talks have gone the most smoothly. 

Is there other topics?, can link pls? Does this one time make it okay to dismiss it then? 

Examples of her (almost) doing it right? Sure:

400 bad request (Meta tries to be of assistance, she remains unhelpful, but she did report the 400 error and the talks went fairly smoothly). 

Good said:

I can't help you if i don't get information

no one else seems to have this issue.

i can't talk in chat anymore (more drama mongering and pushing for people to go to Luna's, but she does report the 400 once again) 
how do i get verified (she was almost kinda normal in this one)

Notice how when he's civil she's civil

Okay, it just hit me. 

Is this a battle of who ought to be polite to the other first? 

No, I'm just noting there was civil conversation there. It was actually kinda funny. 

 

If so that's silly, as in general he has no reason to be nice to her if she's not giving him something of use to his website. 

Oohoo are you saying this or is he? 

notice how he didn't immediately call her a liar and then they even bantered in that first one

Notice how she actually gave symptoms of what was wrong with the website in spite of her keeping up her usual antics? 

That alone is the difference worth noting. You're at this point like "Well why didn't he respond in a way that'd let her elaborate" when she could have just said it. 

He asked 

This time he just called her a liar.

the second one they're still pretty chill and again it's not her starting a revolution making a comment about Luna's

Never said it was, just called it pushing, which has in general been an on and off theme of hers. 

She's open to doing that, and "the second one" was an example of her doing something kinda right almost maybe. 

and it's not like people have to use this site exclusively so I'm not sure why it would bother you or meta that she asked as much. 

Not the point of why that was linked. 

Her in relation to Luna only serves as a means of reading her sense of character, gauging motivations. It's not like being pro-Luna here is against any sort of rules, that'd be crazy. 

Wow yeah that'd be crazy🙃

I don't think that was her intent, only that she was frustrated with the issues or glitches on the site and there was a site she was already familiar with- Luna's.

And in the how do I get verified she asks a legitimate question and is ignored....

Yeah, it's why she appeared kinda normal (and she wasn't ignored, she was verified, it just wasn't a matter of banter within that topic). 

Its still ignoring if there's no response, and honestly others that more or less ask why they can't chat get an answer or are told to try again.

And how this time he just straight up calls her a liar.

I mean, go figure why he might if you put your feet in his shoes for a minute. 

If we want actual solutions here though, she ought to report symptoms of her problems with the site instead of just making it into some kinda shtick, unless of course shtick is the goal. 

Because I've been experiencing these issues I can't put myself in his shoes. 

Or did you mean examples of other stuff, like her wanting Luna to be in charge instead, or when she's just complaining and digging into people instead of actually working towards solving problems?

I'm not totally sure how that's stuff got anything to do with what we're talking about? Is it related to glitches or issues with the site

Just wasn't sure what you meant you wanted examples of. 

 😐

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

Whorechata said: 

Turncoat said: 

You really don't see her trying to stir the pot, or are you merely turning a blind eye? 

No, if others found it that way they wouldn't have contributed

Contributed to which? 

 To the glitch thread sug made

So you're saying that because people had real glitches to report, that her making a series of posts and hosting a series of topics to jab at there being glitches were all made with the aim of being constructive? 

Come on. 

 Are these series of posts and topics the ones you linked and are currently talking about?

No, those were just examples of her kinda getting it right. 

 Link others pls

Other what's? 

It'd be faster if you just searched for whatever you aren't describing. 

 Oh if you could pls link the series of posts and topics made to jab at there being glitches where it was made to be just plain old mean to meta

natasha87 said: 

nope, asked meta on discord more than once and got no response, so then i asked tony who was happy to halp me. again how can i give more detail about the issues when the owner refuses to even take me seriously.

You probably messaged my banned account.

You can provide information regardless of how others treat you. Why are you being dishonest (again)?

Whorechata said: 

If so that's silly, as in general he has no reason to be nice to her if she's not giving him something of use to his website. 

Oohoo are you saying this or is he? 

I feel fairly safe speaking for him in relation to the above point. 

notice how he didn't immediately call her a liar and then they even bantered in that first one

Notice how she actually gave symptoms of what was wrong with the website in spite of her keeping up her usual antics? 

That alone is the difference worth noting. You're at this point like "Well why didn't he respond in a way that'd let her elaborate" when she could have just said it. 

He asked 

She announced flaws, he asked for elaborations. 

She now doesn't announce flaws beyond generally complaining, and he's seeing it as a ploy. 

the second one they're still pretty chill and again it's not her starting a revolution making a comment about Luna's

Never said it was, just called it pushing, which has in general been an on and off theme of hers. 

She's open to doing that, and "the second one" was an example of her doing something kinda right almost maybe. 

and it's not like people have to use this site exclusively so I'm not sure why it would bother you or meta that she asked as much. 

Not the point of why that was linked. 

Her in relation to Luna only serves as a means of reading her sense of character, gauging motivations. It's not like being pro-Luna here is against any sort of rules, that'd be crazy. 

Wow yeah that'd be crazy🙃

I don't think that was her intent, only that she was frustrated with the issues or glitches on the site and there was a site she was already familiar with- Luna's.

I feel like Sugar's smarter than that. 

And in the how do I get verified she asks a legitimate question and is ignored....

Yeah, it's why she appeared kinda normal (and she wasn't ignored, she was verified, it just wasn't a matter of banter within that topic). 

Its still ignoring if there's no response, and honestly others that more or less ask why they can't chat get an answer or are told to try again.

...but there was a response, just not in the topic. 

And how this time he just straight up calls her a liar.

I mean, go figure why he might if you put your feet in his shoes for a minute. 

If we want actual solutions here though, she ought to report symptoms of her problems with the site instead of just making it into some kinda shtick, unless of course shtick is the goal. 

Because I've been experiencing these issues I can't put myself in his shoes. 

Why not?