1. If all pro-pedo talk based on emotion or without a debate/exchange of information to be banned(or posted repeatedly). Yes, this is subjective, so any pro-pedo talk left up is at the mercy of the mods, if this is applied.
What if it's said as a referential joke?
Talking about it is less of an issue compared to the potential to flood the message. Talk is harmless, but oversaturation's another story.
If the mod decides it's not a joke then it's banned(or if its pro-pedo joke, then its no-no as well, according to the rule). Posting that joke will come with that risk. The mod does not need to justify himself either(I can post proof of the transgression if it's required).
Seems like it'd be on the backs of how quickly the mod's liable to use it as an excuse. I figure saturation's probably a generally good gauge.
2. Ban of all child/animal abuse gore images posted for no other reason than shock value.
Why?
I'd lean more towards some sort of relevancy clause, but that's it's own share of red tape that leads towards some potential slippery slopes.
Because it is disgusting and pointless. I personally do not like to post on this forum because of the environment these posts and images have created.
This is intolerance. I get it for CP from it being illegal, but banning gore? What's next, scat?
Again, I'd base it on saturation. The sheer repetition is the real milling factor.
The only reason to keep them is to let the twat have his way, like he is a child, to indulge in the dynamic of what will happen if people are free.
Exactly, freedom isn't free. In order to have the freedom to do as you like, many costs come from seeing the potential for those freedoms be abused. To try to steer the community however through excessive rules just serves to make everyone behave in one carbon copy way.
There is a point where one's freedoms tread on others though, and I'd say that that point is hit by sheer repetition. At least some variety offers more, even if that offer is itself potentially disturbing within the legal range.
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”
While those reasons are cool, they are not worth the trouble, as the people who post these images have little to offer, until they mature (and in the case of Jim, live to talk about it).
Sometimes that's a waiting process that involves direct interaction with us until an epiphany is reached, the slow path.
...there does come a point though where you have to ask yourself what costs are following such patience though.
You do not negotiate with terrorists.
Diplomacy has had some surprising effects for slowing if not stopping some of them, but the time for diplomacy seems to be passing and the sole one making a fuss about it doesn't "want to negotiate with terrorists" either.
I wanted it to work, he's otherwise interesting.
There is no diplomacy when the other party has nothing to offer.
Their company as not-a-spammer counts as something to offer to me, and was furthered by seeing users like Jim and Sinister come around.
Still, can't do nothing. Maybe after a long enough time things'll settle and the more peaceful route can try again.
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