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Blanc said: 

like they'll come bring u a shirt and be like "look at this shirt, it's 65 dollars though so u can' buy it" and then ur like, "ur so mean!!" but it's really like saying, "I love you my dear friend and im going to playfully show you my love by being sarcastically/irionically hateful toward you" 

 

like me and my friends tell each other "I hate you bye" and its just a really weird way of interacting. 

 

I'm always really really sarcastic and that's something that's hard to get online, but yeah like. I'm always like joking 

 That sounds really unhealthy?

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Blanc said:
it was my idea and then I enlisted ephemeral to help me

 Why does it being your idea instead of a group effort matter so much to you? 

Blanc said:
but systematic was the person who I was talking to on discord like, "man I wish we could have a live stream channel where we all interacted like 3D characters. imagine an SC virtual reality internet party blah blah blah"

 So it was his idea, and you were just a worker drone who failed? 

Blanc said:
but then nothing came of it because I couldn't run the software on my Mac and the download for the Mac version just hasn't been made yet (but they're working on it)

As has always been the story for Mac computers... I remember this shit like it was yesterday. 

Join the PC Master Race today! 


Lena said: 
Blanc said: 

like they'll come bring u a shirt and be like "look at this shirt, it's 65 dollars though so u can' buy it" and then ur like, "ur so mean!!" but it's really like saying, "I love you my dear friend and im going to playfully show you my love by being sarcastically/irionically hateful toward you" 

 

like me and my friends tell each other "I hate you bye" and its just a really weird way of interacting. 

 

I'm always really really sarcastic and that's something that's hard to get online, but yeah like. I'm always like joking 

 That sounds really unhealthy?

Only if you take everything insanely literally, like calling people who make racist jokes racist. 

The point of the irony is to make a commentary on those who take it seriously (or enable it through pretending it was sarcastic, granting an outlet). 

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Blanc said:
it was my idea and then I enlisted ephemeral to help me

 Why does it being your idea instead of a group effort matter so much to you? 

Blanc said:
but systematic was the person who I was talking to on discord like, "man I wish we could have a live stream channel where we all interacted like 3D characters. imagine an SC virtual reality internet party blah blah blah"

 So it was his idea, and you were just a worker drone who failed? 

Blanc said:
but then nothing came of it because I couldn't run the software on my Mac and the download for the Mac version just hasn't been made yet (but they're working on it)

As has always been the story for Mac computers... I remember this shit like it was yesterday. 

Join the PC Master Race today! 


Lena said: 
Blanc said: 

like they'll come bring u a shirt and be like "look at this shirt, it's 65 dollars though so u can' buy it" and then ur like, "ur so mean!!" but it's really like saying, "I love you my dear friend and im going to playfully show you my love by being sarcastically/irionically hateful toward you" 

like me and my friends tell each other "I hate you bye" and its just a really weird way of interacting. 

I'm always really really sarcastic and that's something that's hard to get online, but yeah like. I'm always like joking 

 That sounds really unhealthy?

Only if you take everything insanely literally, like calling people who make racist jokes racist. 

The point of the irony is to make a commentary on those who take it seriously (or enable it through pretending it was sarcastic, granting an outlet). 

 You're somewhat racist if you're making racist jokes my dude. It's called casual racism and makes people that hold certain prejudices more likely to act out against these groups because making jokes about it "in good fun" is normalizing the behavior.

Telling someone you have a close emotional bond with such as a friend or significant other that you hate them even as a joke is weird, unnecessary and hurtful for that relationship and likely makes the bond more superficial than anything else. 

 
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Reverse racism is more racist than race jokes, and race jokes can be made with the intent of budging that individual more than expressing one's hatred towards one's race. You also don't have to be racist to laugh at another's racist joke, but you do have to be intolerant to not take jokes as jokes, showing it to be more your problem than theirs in such cases. 

In a way, you're being the reverse racist no one asked for no differently than a neckbearded fedora opening doors for ladies, a Racial White Knight if you will. Speaking as one of the commonly mocked demographics (transexualism), one you mocked me over in the past in now-deleted Discord records, neckbeards charging in don't make it better for us, but rather worse. 

Lena said:
Telling someone you have a close emotional bond with such as a friend or significant other that you hate them even as a joke is weird, unnecessary and hurtful for that relationship and likely makes the bond more superficial than anything else.

You take things way too seriously. 

What about humor styles like irony, levity, and the referential? The subtext is more important than the words themselves. 

My groups do the same shit and I'd say we're closer than mock pleasantries and a minefield of offense fears. We know how much shit we can take from each other and those kinds of gags show it through it's expression. Beyond that it's a way to shit-test people, see how weak they are by how little moves them to passionate retaliation. 

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Reverse racism is more racist than race jokes, and race jokes can be made with the intent of budging that individual more than expressing one's hatred towards one's race. 

Lena said:
Telling someone you have a close emotional bond with such as a friend or significant other that you hate them even as a joke is weird, unnecessary and hurtful for that relationship and likely makes the bond more superficial than anything else.

You take things way too seriously. 

What about humor styles like irony, levity, and the referential? The subtext is more important than the words themselves. 

 I dont think I've said reverse racism is less racist than race jokes..? Race jokes are just as racist as reverse racism so yeah call that out if you need to.

I've already explained to you(at least I think it was you) seeing people doing casual racism in discord and other platforms started from racist jokes, where it slowly became the norm. People who would usually not say such things now used the n-word or other slurs to refer to someone doing something they disliked 

And also:

"I can't tell if you're joking" isn't a script.

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My groups do the same shit and I'd say we're closer than mock pleasantries and a minefield of offense fears. We know how much shit we can take from each other and those kinds of gags show it through it's expression. Beyond that it's a way to shit-test people, see how weak they are by how little moves them to passionate retaliation. 

 I guess for me if I know someone has little or poor self esteem I try not to say things that, though hilarious to me, might give them the wrong idea about the type of relationship or friendship we have. My intention isn't to start shit with those I care about out of no where and what happens if you push them too far? How likely are they to tell you? 

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Lena said:
I dont think I've said reverse racism is less racist than race jokes..? Race jokes are just as racist as reverse racism so yeah call that out if you need to.

It's an example of racism that is commonly taken as "not racist". 

I'd say Reverse Racism is worse. A joke can be done from a variety of reasonings, while racism itself, reverse or straight, is more core to their being. 

I've already explained to you(at least I think it was you) seeing people doing casual racism in discord and other platforms started from racist jokes, where it slowly became the norm.

What's wrong with that? 

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In this case I wouldn't even call it "Honest" conflict either, but rather dark humor

People who would usually not say such things now used the n-word or other slurs to refer to someone doing something they disliked 

Good for them, they're growing as people into something less repressed. 

I still struggle to say "The N-Word", I can't even make myself type it, but I wouldn't call that me being progressive, I'd call that me enabling a weakness out of fear. Those who can say it freely without racism as the goal deserve to. 



"I can't tell if you're joking" isn't a script.

So work on your tone perception then. 

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Lena said: 

My groups do the same shit and I'd say we're closer than mock pleasantries and a minefield of offense fears. We know how much shit we can take from each other and those kinds of gags show it through it's expression. Beyond that it's a way to shit-test people, see how weak they are by how little moves them to passionate retaliation. 

 I guess for me if I know someone has little or poor self esteem I try not to say things that, though hilarious to me, might give them the wrong idea about the type of relationship or friendship we have. My intention isn't to start shit with those I care about out of no where and what happens if you push them too far? How likely are they to tell you? 

If some words about demographics is enough to budge you (emphasis on words in place of actions), then that's something you ought to work on about yourself. 

If I posted siesta gifs when I thought you were being lazy, how bad would that really be? 

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Turncoat said:
In a way, you're being the reverse racist no one asked for no differently than a neckbearded fedora opening doors for ladies, a Racial White Knight if you will. Speaking as one of the commonly mocked demographics (transexualism), one you mocked me over in the past in now-deleted Discord records, neckbeards charging in don't make it better for us, but rather worse.

 Wait I'm being a reverse racist for pointing put that racist jokes are, as their category describes, racist? 

This wordplay, okay

And I'm assuming you meant when Xadem said to use your female pronouns and I said no because you were not female also you didn't  care about the pronouns used? That time? 

Hi, also I'm Mexican. Literally being called a spic and a wetback do to being brown so I call that shit out too, if you say slurs I'm gonna call you out on it no matter how uncomfortable that makes you to realize that you may not be overtly racist but your'e definitely using casual racist language.

Also stop fucking editing.

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Lena said: 
Turncoat said:
In a way, you're being the reverse racist no one asked for no differently than a neckbearded fedora opening doors for ladies, a Racial White Knight if you will. Speaking as one of the commonly mocked demographics (transexualism), one you mocked me over in the past in now-deleted Discord records, neckbeards charging in don't make it better for us, but rather worse.

 Wait I'm being a reverse racist for pointing put that racist jokes are, as their category describes, racist? 

Somewhat, yeah. 

Edit: It also falls into racist tones over you thinking they need you to fight their battles for them. 

And I'm assuming you meant when Xadem said to use your female pronouns and I said no because you were not female also you didn't  care about the pronouns used? That time? 

So because I have said in a personal context that I don't care which pronoun I'm called, you have permission to mock transexualism through me? 

It's more than that, too, and while I don't actually care in relation to myself from seeing it as a disorderly flaw instead of some spiritual new wave movement like the LGBTQ is running it as, this is still the room for me to call you on your bullshit. 

Hi, also I'm Mexican. Literally being called a spic and a wetback do to being brown so I call that shit out too, if you say slurs I'm gonna call you out on it no matter how uncomfortable that makes you to realize that you may not be overtly racist but your'e definitely using casual racist language.

Then you are weak. 

Being a Mexican does not entitle you to calling people out for this shit any more than anyone else any more than me being a Transexual does. Stop high-grounding using your race if you actually want to be past it, otherwise accept that your entitlement statement here is also racism. 

Also stop fucking editing.

I only do those sorts of edits when, at the time, there were no replies after me. 

My post count would be insanely padded if I did new posts in place of edits. It's already embarrassingly huge, it doesn't need the help. 

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