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Gypsy said: 

Wow that’s a pity, McDonald’s coffee is actually quite nice as well, better than Starbucks. Here the staff couldn’t give less of a shit, you can even find homeless people just sat in there all day and they don’t move them on

Yeah, I have no clue. Maybe it’s because I didn’t play with a kid one time when I was there, or because I was going there a lot for cheap coffee. It was like 2 dollars for a large iced coffee because the app kept giving me deals. I was usually walking in, too. I don’t know, but it was annoying.

I also had this person in a truck use their truck to try to block my path after I let him pass earlier because I still wasn’t used to dealing with traffic. The McDonald’s is mostly designed around cars, so it can be kind of awkward to navigate on foot.

I think my small city is actually sort of a conservative mix, so I gotta deal with the angry boneheads. I’d rather just ignore the conservative blowhards around here. Especially because I’m like a sub-7 myself, which makes life a lot harder. A lot of people here are worse-looking than me, but I think a more likely explanation is that I just don’t look that good, which might be why the employees there, who were around 6-8 themselves, treated me that way.

Spatial Mind said: 

I think it's okay to eat at Ronald's once in awhile.

No, it's not. 



Show some patience, or skip ahead to where he explains the food science. This shit's drugs, and it's why the owner or whatever won't even allow himself to eat it. Calling it 'product' is legal lingo; It means once it ceases to be food they don't have to change their language, assuming we're not already there now. 

Eating out of the toilet is arguably healthier than McDonalds. 

Here on Earth, there are people who've eaten fast food countless times and are still in good health.  

There are people in their late 90s who've smoked a carton a day their entire lives, that does not reflect the majority. 

I'm told McDonald's Canada, is superior to American McDonald's in both taste and health standards.

I was shocked to see how they handled themselves in other countries. 

Healthier than it is in the US, yet still the least healthy option in an Asian Mall. 

American food in general is trash from what I gather.

There's good shit if you hit up restaurants and food trucks, we have the benefit of cultural fusion when it comes to food. 

Avoid the corporate slop, go for the indie food. 

I have an American living on food stamps talking like they only eat organic meals. Imagine that.   

I bet their SSI covers the rest after their stamps run dry. 

The US is one of the few places where vegetables are more pricey than meat. For the rest of the world that I've seen so far it's the opposite. 
 

Dragoonback said: 

Turncoat said: 

Normally I'd agree, but even my saying 'Burger King is Worse' is likely to be objectively wrong with very little research on it. 

 I honestly really hate Burger King. Their burgers taste waterlogged.

They taste char broiled to me, and they went way too far with it. 

It's like the emptiest flesh could taste, it's actually baffling. 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

I think it's okay to eat at Ronald's once in awhile.

No, it's not. 



Show some patience, or skip ahead to where he explains the food science. This shit's drugs. 

The "food science" section doesn't really establish that McDonald's is dangerous. It mostly takes ordinary facts about food chemistry and jumps from "this substance can do X under certain conditions" to "therefore eating McDonald's causes X in humans."

The MTHFR claim is especially bad. The CDC explicitly says people with common MTHFR variants can process folic acid, contrary to the video's claim that they can't. The seed-oil section similarly takes oxidation chemistry and animal studies and extrapolates them into claims about human metabolism and brain function without establishing that ordinary consumption causes those effects. The GRAS criticism is the one part that has a legitimate basis, since there are real questions about conflicts of interest in the system. But that doesn't mean McDonald's ingredients are untested toxins that the FDA has somehow ignored.

And "this shit's drugs" is just rhetoric. Food activating reward pathways doesn't make it pharmacologically equivalent to drugs. McDonald's making food highly palatable is not evidence that it's chemically addictive.

A lot of this just sounds like the usual seed-oil fearmongering. Seed oils are useful cooking fats, including for ordinary home cooking. The fact that polyunsaturated fats can oxidize under heat doesn't mean cooking with them is secretly poisoning you. The relevant question is the actual exposure and whether it produces meaningful harm in humans, not whether you can describe a scary chemical reaction that occurs under certain conditions. The same problem comes up repeatedly with the preservatives, folic acid, carrageenan, and other ingredients. "This can undergo X chemical process" gets turned into "therefore eating McDonald's damages your cells." That's not how nutritional evidence works.

You can reasonably criticize some McDonald's meals for being high in calories, sodium, saturated fat, or added sugar. That's very different from proving they're unsafe. This video doesn't make that case. McDonald's can be part of a nutritious diet, and frequency by itself doesn't establish harm. The nutritional composition of the entire diet matters.

Just learn to cook the beef yourself holy shit. 

Turncoat said: 

Just learn to cook the beef yourself holy shit. 

Well yeah that's fine too, I'm just saying that video isn't correct. And like I said, you can use seed oils or even MSG at home to make burgers or anything else and there is nothing wrong with that. I feel like part of why people get fast food is they don't realize that MSG is not "scary" and I even have some in the cabinet.

Turncoat said: 

Just learn to cook the beef yourself holy shit. 

 I learned how to cook beef, it’s not hard at all, but I can’t do that when I’m out.

Gypsy said: 

McDonald’s coffee is actually quite nice as well, better than Starbucks. Here the staff couldn’t give less of a shit, you can even find homeless people just sat in there all day and they don’t move them on

Yep, it's good. 

The McCafe coffee overtook Tim Hortons as the #1 fast food coffee. That's a bold claim considering Tims decades old reputation for holding this title. 

Before Ronald amped up his coffee game, before McDonald's used to serve a hot black liquid I can only describe as burned water. It was served too hot for an adult while cream and sugar couldn't save it. 

I think it was in 2009, McDonald's was handing out coffee for free. It was the new McCafe. We're pulling up at the drive through everyday getting free small coffees twice a day.

I was impressed with the technology behind the damn cup. Super spill resistant, double layered durable paper cup making it easy to hold without getting burned, Doesn't even seem like paper, more like waxed and waterproof cardboard

Starbucks and McDonald's both use Arabica beans, but the way they're processed, Ronald wins cause its roasted to appeal to a broader audience and it's dirt cheap, plus that cup is easier to live with while it'll be back. 

Chapo said: 

Turncoat said: 

Just learn to cook the beef yourself holy shit. 

 I learned how to cook beef, it’s not hard at all, but I can’t do that when I’m out.

So eat before/after you leave, or bring snacks in the car. 

It's cheaper, it's healthier (even if still salt brined for beef), and it tastes a hella lot better. 

McDonalds offends the taste buds, and it happens to be unnaturally unhealthy compared to other options. Why not Wendy's even? 

Turncoat said: 

So eat before/after you leave, or bring snacks in the car. 

It's cheaper, it's healthier (even if still salt brined for beef), and it tastes a hella lot better. 

McDonalds offends the taste buds, and it happens to be unnaturally unhealthy compared to other options. Why not Wendy's even? 

Salt isn't uniquely unhealthy just because it's in fast food. The adult body needs sodium and regulates sodium balance through the kidneys. The issue is excessive intake over time, not simply whether something was salt-brined or covered in a lot of salt.

If your argument is that homemade beef is healthier, you'd have to compare the actual meals and their portions, calories, saturated fat, sodium, etc. Homemade salt-brined beef isn't automatically healthier just because it's homemade, and McDonald's isn't automatically unhealthy simply because it's salted, processed, or fast food. You can criticize the nutritional composition of a particular meal, but calling it "unnaturally unhealthy" compared with other salted foods requires more than pointing out that it contains salt.

It's not just McDonald's, but too much of anything that taste good can kill us. 

On planet Earth, if you live in the west, it's only a matter of time before anyone eats something considered unhealthy. A health nut had a cookie before. Everyone tried the cake. Coke and various soda. Just about every snack is bad. People like icecream, and candies and deep fried foods. In the modern world it's not fun eating like a rabbit, no one really does the raw food diet. 

If you're poor on welfare and living on food stamps in the US, then most likely EVERYTHING, you eat isn't exactly high quality or all that healthy. 

I took this image from an article that states the health benefits of the McDouble.

I understand in the US, your processed cheese is often some kind of synthetic substance. and so is your ketchup. I understand the buns McDonald's uses are said to never perish. 

In Canada, I have no issue eating anything in that image.  

Sometimes we'd get 2 of the cheaper burgers and combine them to form a burger superior to the Big Mac in weight and size. It could be the McDouble + a Jr, Chicken ( I hear the US doesn't have the Jr. Chicken ) or just 2 McDoubles, what whatever else is cheap. We can request these burgers be dressed as a big mac if we wish.

We call this hilarious money saving technique the McGangbang.