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The Bandwagon Effect


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Gemini said:

"TheBandwagon Effect" or "Herd Mentality."It describes psychological and social behaviors where people adopt opinions, biases, or criticisms simply because others are doing it, completely ignoring the actual quality of the item."


## Common Terms for This Phenomenon

* Bandwagon Effect: People hate or dismiss something just because it is popular to do so.
* Herd Mentality: Individuals mimic the negative reactions of the crowd instead of judging independently.
* Groupthink: A group reaches a consensus to dislike something to maintain harmony or fit in.
* Hivemind: Collective internet culture targeting a specific subject with shared, repetitive criticism.
* Circlejerk: A slang term for an online community reinforcing a shared, often irrational negative opinion. 

## Cultural Variations

* Tall Poppy Syndrome: A tendency to criticize or cut down something successful or high-quality just because it stands out.
* Review Bombing: When a great product or game receives a flood of coordinated bad reviews due to outside controversy, not its actual quality.

 

                                                                       The Big Arch from McDonald's

Maybe it was the year 2024, McDonald's tested a limited time Burger called the Big Arch in Canada. Canadians loved it. I liked it too. We'd find ourselves having one of these once a week at least, and I can honestly say this thing is really filling which is not something that happens with just any McDonald's combo.  

Tasted similar to a Big Mac but slightly better. The Big Mac is McDonald's best selling item.

Compared to the Big Mac 

- Beef Weight: Big Arch has 0.5 lbs of beef (two 1/4 lb patties); Big Mac has roughly 0.2 lbs of beef (two smaller patties).

- Calories: Big Arch has 1,020 calories; Big Mac has 580 calories.

- Cheese: Big Arch features three larger slices of white cheddar; Big Mac has a single split slice of American cheese.

- Bun Structure: Big Arch uses a large sesame-and-poppy-seed bun without a middle club layer, whereas the Big Mac uses a three-part bun with a middle slice of bread.

- Box Size: The Big Arch comes in a noticeably bigger packaging box to accommodate its wider and taller build.

Basically this thing is comprised of the same materials as a Big Mac, with a better bun and on paper the specs destroy the Big Mac.

When The Big Arch left Canada, Canadians wanted it back.....

Fast forward. The Big Arch is released in the US And 2 things happened.

1. American Food Reviewers got to it first, and they ALL gave it the thumbs up. I'll just leave this video here, but there are countless food reviewers who make this kind of content and they hit it real fast. I watched cause I'm here saying. yeah, they're gonna love it. 

 

2. The Debacle with the McDonald's CEO taking what appeared to be a small bite of the Big Arch and not swallowing it. He also called the Big Arch "Product"

Honestly, I don't even think the video is bad. The bashing is exaggerated. 

Now I'm not suggesting this burger is healthy. I reckon the bun on these burgers are bad, and possible traces of cardboard filling in those patties. But damn. It became a trend to hate on this burger, and people were making content dismantling it, calling it bad and sticking to the big mac.

It turned into a competition who can make the video that hammers this burger the hardest. Videos of undercooked beef patties surfaced, ( potentially not real, and if it is it's not a normal thing ) for such a trend this type of video is solid gold.

The Big Arch had more comments than people who even tried it. The Burger wasn't a big seller in the US, while the hate for it was massive. And why ? The masses who eat at McDonald's never tried it, and I assure you, it is the BEST thing McDonald's ever put out. I swear American's shot themselves in the foot with this one. If you're gonna eat at Ronald's anyway might as well get something satisfying.

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Conclusion. The one with the biggest mic sets the tone for the masses. Yes reader, even some of you are lambs. 

last edit on 8/9/2026 6:07:08 AM
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I don't really agree that the backlash necessarily became a bandwagon. There are plenty of reasonable reasons someone could decide not to get the Big Arch without trying it. It's around 1,020 calories, 25g of saturated fat, and 1,760mg of sodium, it's more expensive than a Big Mac, and it's a substantially larger and richer burger. Someone can reasonably decide that their diet doesn't need something that heavy or that the extra food isn't worth the extra price.

I've also personally had quarter-pounders from McDonald's that were dangerously undercooked, so I don't think concern about the Big Arch's thicker patties is automatically some manufactured criticism either. A thicker patty can reasonably make someone more cautious about how well it's cooked. That doesn't mean every Big Arch is undercooked, but it's a legitimate consideration.

So I think there's a difference between people mindlessly repeating that the burger is bad and people independently deciding that the product isn't appealing to them for perfectly rational reasons. The fact that a lot of people didn't want a very large, expensive, extremely rich burger doesn't by itself demonstrate a bandwagon effect.

On another note, I enjoyed the Taco Bell chicken nuggets and garlic sauce they had for a time. Ironically I'm not a big garlic pasta fan.

last edit on 8/9/2026 7:14:11 AM
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Gemini said:

Yes, the backlash over McDonald’s CEO Chris Kempczinski eating the Big Arch burger was a classic internet bandwagon effect. While the initial clip genuinely struck viewers as stiff and awkward—featuring a tiny, overly cautious nibble and the corporate-sounding label "product"—the overwhelming wave of mockery quickly snowballed into a standard social media pile-on.

Anatomy of the Viral Backlash

- The Spark: Kempczinski took a very dainty bite of the massive burger on camera, leading viewers to joke that he looked like a vegetarian trying meat for the first time or a man who had never eaten McDonald’s in his life.

- The Pile-on: The minor awkwardness was rapidly amplified once rival fast-food competitors like Burger King and Wendy's jumped on the bandwagon with spoof videos.

- The Bandwagon Effect: Commenters flooded the posts with hyperbolic reactions, treating a mundane, slightly awkward PR clip as a massive scandal.

 If I were a CEO of a fast food franchise, I'd spoof the video myself too except I'd eat the whole thing. 

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Personally I do not eat every day, though if I did I can handle 3000 calories a day no problem.

Says here 22g of saturated fat is where the line is drawn, so the 25g wouldn't really impact me all that much. 

And no I wouldn't recommend eating McDonald's all the time, it will kill you.

The product however, is for fast food eaters. If you want to eat healthy, cook, and if you care about your intake don't go to McDonald's at all. 

Of all the horrible fast food chains my personal favorite is the Whopper. At Ronald's hands down the Big Arch. 

This is easily the Bandwagon effect. 

I'm also seeing here, despite the backlash, McDonald's says the Big Arch was a success ( though it's gone ). Maybe the item was meant to be limited considering it's $10 USD, and something the average American't wouldn't be able to afford regularly. 

I know a bandwagon effect when I see one. 

last edit on 8/9/2026 7:59:50 AM
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0 votes RE: The Bandwagon Effect

It's not about eating Mcdonald's it's about eating too much saturated fat or sodium. And undercooked ground beef meat is a risk.

last edit on 8/9/2026 9:58:59 AM
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That has nothing to do with the "classic internet bandwagon" effect. 

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last edit on 8/9/2026 12:05:24 PM
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I found the Big Arch to be good. I had like 4 of them in the limited time they were available.

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