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Spatial Mind said: 

You're confirmed to have chronic cynicism. I can't as you say, "argue", with someone while I'm unable to take them seriously. That and it's not important to me to win whatever this is. Nothing to gain. 

Then there's no actual argument here. Saying I've been “confirmed” to have chronic cynicism doesn't establish that I have it, especially when the confirmation comes from a generic psychological description that you selected because it fit your preexisting view of me. And saying you can't argue with someone because you don't take them seriously doesn't make your claims true, it just explains why you're refusing to defend them. It's also strange to say there's “nothing to gain” while repeatedly diagnosing me, consulting AI about me, and explaining what you supposedly know about my psychology. If you genuinely had nothing to gain, you could simply leave the argument alone.

Spatial Mind said: 

Dragoonback said: 

“Not reacting” sounds rather convenient as a description of what you were doing. You're attributing a whole causal strategy to it: that your lack of reaction made him escalate, reveal himself, and eventually “dig his own grave.” But how do you actually know that? It sounds like you're retrospectively framing your own behavior as a deliberate tactic rather than simply not confronting him. And if the point is that you were deliberately withholding reactions because you knew it would frustrate him and make him expose himself, that's not really passive nonreaction anymore. It's a form of psychological strategy. Calling it simply “not reacting” obscures what you're actually describing.

When people take a swing and it does nothing. It impacts them. When they swing it's because they want you to react. This was coming from someone who thought they were smarter than me. It's not my fault if his ego got shattered. 

If I were to appease you, what action should I have taken ? Should I have cried ? Maybe start yelling to generate some kind of entanglement giving the abuser leverage to start gaslighting me ?

 

this still reads to me like you were just being incredibly passive and letting him walk all over you. And why are the only options in this scenario crying, screaming or doing nothing? Could you not sit down and have a conversation, come up with some house rules etc? 

Gypsy said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Dragoonback said: 

“Not reacting” sounds rather convenient as a description of what you were doing. You're attributing a whole causal strategy to it: that your lack of reaction made him escalate, reveal himself, and eventually “dig his own grave.” But how do you actually know that? It sounds like you're retrospectively framing your own behavior as a deliberate tactic rather than simply not confronting him. And if the point is that you were deliberately withholding reactions because you knew it would frustrate him and make him expose himself, that's not really passive nonreaction anymore. It's a form of psychological strategy. Calling it simply “not reacting” obscures what you're actually describing.

When people take a swing and it does nothing. It impacts them. When they swing it's because they want you to react. This was coming from someone who thought they were smarter than me. It's not my fault if his ego got shattered. 

If I were to appease you, what action should I have taken ? Should I have cried ? Maybe start yelling to generate some kind of entanglement giving the abuser leverage to start gaslighting me ?

 

this still reads to me like you were just being incredibly passive and letting him walk all over you. And why are the only options in this scenario crying, screaming or doing nothing? Could you not sit down and have a conversation, come up with some house rules etc? 

 Sitting down and talking with him isn't an option. It's like talking to that Goon over there. Pride. 

One time my ex was over and he was having a conversation with her by the stairs as she was on her way up while I was in my room. She was talking about how she applied for a job, high paying. My ex is just an average looking woman, Then he started with his shit saying things like "Well looks matter and only the best looking people get jobs like that y'know that's how the world works blah blah blah". My ex was quiet while he was carrying on, so I stood at the top of the stairs and I was like "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT !? GET UPSTARS !!!: Without thinking she bolted up the stairs and into the room, then I slammed the door. Then she got all giddy and we started laughing. She was going on "I really like how you did that thank you <3" ( This paragraph is actually a porn script called panty ass, where I'm the male star )

When we came down later on he was nowhere to be seen. He was in his room for a change then when I saw him later he was carrying on like a yes man.

I wasn't even mad, I was just making her day.

I am passive aggressive though. I think losing one's cool is dumb so I like to stay focused on whatever I decide to do, even if it's to deal damage I have better judgement. More focus. I won't fuck shit up, and if I fuch shit up it'll be well done. 

My older Brother made me like this. I can write a novel from childhood to even now how he handles his jealousy toward me. His ex from high school. Her family loves him. Nice chinese Jamaican girl. They took him to Disney, Jamaica, fucking N64 for Christmas which was thee #1 gift that year. But that family hated me. Years later his ex is all fucked up over how he'd treat me and whine about it to a female family member. His boys have similar sentiments.  Between our extended family i'm the star, cousins etc. We go to Trinidad, cousins husband is hardcore and while I'm getting all the attention even he is like "You're sitting with me in the front." Yay. But yeah my Brother, he wouldn't even hide it. When I got my first Ninja he was furious, and wouldn't bother hiding it. His cheeks would puff with a "Fuck you !" and it was endless. 

Ex (Same one) brake checked me, and.... I lost the bike. Only had it for 10 days total. So I'm bikeless and he started cooling off. 

10 month later I get a new one, and Mr. Hyde came back. This has been going on since childhood so when people are jealous of me, I tend to count my blessings and not allow others to drag me down, and it's genuine, cause, I did leave home cause of my older Brother, he was turning everyone against me, everyone was acting like I stole from them but couldn't prove it. I was gone for 7 years no contact from 22 to 29, I was estranged.

For years I'd harbor hatred real hate. I don't use this word lightly, I'd have nightmares, I'd complain about him. For years I wanted support before I realized I was annoying people with my complaints. ( I was young ) My Father's place is nice and I'm out in the world struggling. I learned a lot, became stronger mentally. So this guy, the housemate. I just let him burn the way my Brother did. My mistake with my Brother was ditching home. I lost everything but the bike and a guitar, whole wardrobe, gone. He got what he wanted. I did not. 

If I reacted to housemate, that gives the aggressor power. Because of my experience my composure was genuine. This also started happening after after the 11 month stonewall from the woman next door, plus my ex boomeranged, lady down the street was vexed with me Yulia. The dog girl awkwardly stopped talking to me cause my ex sends signals when we walk and she'd cling into me and dog girl saw it. Everything was good, so yeah there's a jealous person. He was old too 61 then. ( Shit he might actually be dead after all these years ) The other guy who lived there, respects me. Other guys who lived there. Respect me. None of them talk to him. Observers are angry for me, plus they have their own beefs with him. I don't know if you're angry for me, or at me, but you're a bit ticked off hearing this. Probably works in my favor long after the fact, so it's overkill. 

He later asked if my ex got the Job. She did. Dude literally frowned, like he had no awareness I was right there looking at him. 

A frenemy is simply an enemy that has easy access to whoever they hate on. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Sitting down and talking with him isn't an option. It's like talking to that Goon over there. Pride. 

“Pride” is something you're attributing to me, not something you've established. My objection is about whether your reasoning is logically consistent, not protecting my ego. If anything, your repeated focus on hierarchy, superiority, and being above or below people is much closer to what you're describing as pride. 

You constantly blame, judge, and gossip about people while also advocating for people to reproduce into that same environment and simply fend for themselves. That seems contradictory. If your justification is that people should just become strong enough to endure the hostility and hierarchy you describe, that still doesn't establish why reproducing into those conditions is desirable in the first place. So, the “pride” is all yours.

If anything, I've been pretty stoic about your insults while continuing to address the logic of what you're saying. I'm not concerned with defending my status or proving myself superior to you. My position is more about sharing the truths of nihilism and childfree moksha, which can also liberate people from economic exploitation, rather than competing within the hierarchies you're so focused on.

Dragoonback said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Sitting down and talking with him isn't an option. It's like talking to that Goon over there. Pride. 

“Pride” is something you're attributing to me, not something you've established.

It's established. Everything you say it an argument, and not just with me. 

My objection is about whether your reasoning is logically consistent, not protecting my ego.

It's all ego. A strong desire to dominate with your logic, and it has less to do with more and more about your insecurities. 

If anything, your repeated focus on hierarchy, superiority, and being above or below people is much closer to what you're describing as pride.

That's your take. The subject of frenemies popped up and I have something to say. It doesn't matter how I would've handled, you'd say the same thing. Your view in regards to the  concept of being above and below comes into play by default while you'll twist things so you can blame me. And you do it out of pride. 

You constantly blame, judge, and gossip about people while also advocating for people to reproduce into that same environment and simply fend for themselves. That seems contradictory. If your justification is that people should just become strong enough to endure the hostility and hierarchy you describe, that still doesn't establish why reproducing into those conditions is desirable in the first place.

 Blame ? I'm the content one counting my blessing, what am I blaming other for ? Being mean ? 

We have no choice but to judge others regardless if they're good or bad, it's a way for us to pick and choose who stays and who goes, or if we stay or go. 

"Gossip is casual talk or reports about other people's private lives, secrets, or personal affairs. This talk is often unconfirmed, unkind, or meant to spread rumors. The word also means a person who enjoys sharing these stories."

See that ?

- You do not know this man, and never will.

- I did not discuss his private life. secrets or personal affairs.

By your logic I should protect the guy and never speak about what he's done, or ever use him as an example of a frenemy.

Here's the thing. People talk about other people. In this case what I say cannot be gossip because what I tell you about someone whose identity I protect cannot stir division between anyone. When people gossip it stirs division between people they know. That isn't the case here. 

Yes I would tell other people behind your back Dragoon, how you're a jackass, but I also do that to your face and the people I would say that to behind your back, are the same people who see these interactions and also find you the same way I do. 

Another thing. When I tell you you're an ass, you should thank me for the heads up.

Spatial Mind said: 

“Pride” is established because everything you say is an argument, and not just with me. It's all ego, a strong desire to dominate with your logic, and it has less to do with logic and more to do with your insecurities. That's your take about hierarchy and superiority. The subject of frenemies came up and I had something to say, but it wouldn't matter how I handled it because you'd say the same thing. Your view regarding being above and below comes into play by default, and you'll twist things so you can blame me, and you do it out of pride. As for blame, I'm the content one counting my blessings, so what am I blaming others for, being mean? We have no choice but to judge others regardless of whether they're good or bad, because it's how we pick and choose who stays and who goes, or whether we stay or go. You do not know this man and never will, and I did not discuss his private life, secrets, or personal affairs. By your logic I should protect him and never speak about what he's done or use him as an example of a frenemy. People talk about other people, and what I say cannot be gossip because I protect his identity and it cannot stir division between anyone. Gossip stirs division between people they know, and that isn't the case here. Yes, I would tell other people behind your back, Dragoon, that you're a jackass, but I also do that to your face, and the people I would say that to behind your back are the same people who see these interactions and also find you the same way I do. When I tell you you're an ass, you should thank me for the heads up.”

You're still treating your psychological interpretation as proof of itself. “Everything you say is an argument” doesn't establish that I'm motivated by pride, and calling disagreement “ego” doesn't address whether the arguments are logically valid. Likewise, saying you don't discuss private information doesn't make something non-gossip. Gossip doesn't require secrets or falsehoods; repeatedly discussing and negatively judging people, whether behind their backs or directly to them, still fits what you're describing. And your claim that you “protect” people's identities isn't as absolute as you suggest. You've repeatedly discussed personal details and your own assumptions about me without being prompted, and you've even popularized using Turncoat's real name on the forum. Saying you'd call me a jackass behind my back because you also say it to my face doesn't refute the point either. It just confirms that you regularly make and discuss negative judgments about other people.