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Spatial Mind said: 

Yes. Orbiting is a real thing. Don't exaggerate what I've said though, it's not like I'm drawing crowds here, I'm just dealing with people who are there, plus I was writing about my experiences with a frenemy. 

I did mention I'm not a chick magnet, I was just on a roll, as I should've been at that time. I was in my mid 30's. That a man's prime. - They buy toilet paper together, then it's my turn to buy, and I supply the most = This is abusive is it not ? 

- I got the blame for using up the limited internet data while he watched 4 movies a day or more = Okay, Not exactly worthy of praise here

- I'm on a roll meeting all these women AFTER getting dumped. Ex comes back, girl next door, the one down the street, down the block, the cat lady, the dog lady, people I met while washing his car my guests were all female.

- Harassing not just me, but the other guy and guests in the washroom. Like dude, You just took a piss and 10 minutes later I hear you pounding away on the bathroom door with the same script.

- Talking behind my back. I actually walked in on him venting about me to the other guy there. 

- While he never noticed I was in the corner, I watched him as he was passing by pick up a brand new shirt of mine, walk out the front door and put it in the back seat of his car. Just got it, and never saw the shirt again. 

It's not up to me to reach out nor would I like to at this point. That guy by definition of the word is a frenemy. Also, my role is important. It's important for growth. How I handle toxic people doesn't create entanglements. That guy lost to his desires which is mental weakness. You're carrying on as if I should respect the guy. 

The issue is not whether every event you described happened or whether your housemate behaved badly. The issue is the framework you use to interpret people.

You consistently turn conflicts into a hierarchy where the other person is weak, jealous, toxic, or inferior, while your role becomes the person who is desired, tested, or important enough to provoke those reactions.

Someone can behave badly without needing to become a “mentally weak” person beneath you. That extra step is where the hierarchy comes in. Describing harm is different from building a worldview where every conflict confirms your superiority.

Dragoonback said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Yes. Orbiting is a real thing. Don't exaggerate what I've said though, it's not like I'm drawing crowds here, I'm just dealing with people who are there, plus I was writing about my experiences with a frenemy. 

I did mention I'm not a chick magnet, I was just on a roll, as I should've been at that time. I was in my mid 30's. That a man's prime. - They buy toilet paper together, then it's my turn to buy, and I supply the most = This is abusive is it not ? 

- I got the blame for using up the limited internet data while he watched 4 movies a day or more = Okay, Not exactly worthy of praise here

- I'm on a roll meeting all these women AFTER getting dumped. Ex comes back, girl next door, the one down the street, down the block, the cat lady, the dog lady, people I met while washing his car my guests were all female.

- Harassing not just me, but the other guy and guests in the washroom. Like dude, You just took a piss and 10 minutes later I hear you pounding away on the bathroom door with the same script.

- Talking behind my back. I actually walked in on him venting about me to the other guy there. 

- While he never noticed I was in the corner, I watched him as he was passing by pick up a brand new shirt of mine, walk out the front door and put it in the back seat of his car. Just got it, and never saw the shirt again. 

It's not up to me to reach out nor would I like to at this point. That guy by definition of the word is a frenemy. Also, my role is important. It's important for growth. How I handle toxic people doesn't create entanglements. That guy lost to his desires which is mental weakness. You're carrying on as if I should respect the guy. 

The issue is not whether every event you described happened or whether your housemate behaved badly. The issue is the framework you use to interpret people.

You consistently turn conflicts into a hierarchy where the other person is weak, jealous, toxic, or inferior, while your role becomes the person who is desired, tested, or important enough to provoke those reactions.

Every conflict has one person more shallow than the other.  I still supplied the most toilet paper. I also handled the utility bill, which would cost me around $400 on top of rent and other bills. I supplied the most. Or rather, I STILL supplied the most. 

 Yes it there was jealousy, yes it was toxic, and surprise, I do see shallow behaviour as low frequency behavior. There's nothing wrong with that.  

Someone can behave badly without needing to become a “mentally weak” person beneath you. That extra step is where the hierarchy comes in. Describing harm is different from building a worldview where every conflict confirms your superiority.

 Nah. Bad behavior is weakness,. 

There's nothing wrong with being jealous, it's what we do when jealous that makes us. 

If you're mentally weak you're going to have tantrums and do dumb shit. If your life is up for review, there will be shame. 

If I did see him, I can bring all of this up, and what's he going to say ? 

In the end, I just carried on. No fighting. No "dragging me down" and believe me, a lot of people would've snapped. Just wash my hands and move on. 

Orbiters, status. Perspective. Point of views. I notice how I can write about being abused and you'll try to turn it on me. I know why and I recognize you. It's the same thing with some people. I don't maintain the high ground out of spite or anything, but petty behavior is actually beneath my standards for real.  

Spatial Mind said: 

Every conflict has one person more shallow than the other. I still supplied the most toilet paper. I also handled the utility bill, which would cost me around $400 on top of rent and other bills. I supplied the most. Or rather, I STILL supplied the most. Yes it there was jealousy, yes it was toxic, and surprise, I do see shallow behaviour as low frequency behavior. There's nothing wrong with that.  

Nah. Bad behavior is weakness. There's nothing wrong with being jealous, it's what we do when jealous that makes us. If you're mentally weak you're going to have tantrums and do dumb shit. If your life is up for review, there will be shame. 

If I did see him, I can bring all of this up, and what's he going to say? In the end, I just carried on. No fighting. No "dragging me down" and believe me, a lot of people would've snapped. Just wash my hands and move on. Orbiters, status. Perspective. Point of views. I notice how I can write about being abused and you'll try to turn it on me. I know why and I recognize you. It's the same thing with some people. I don't maintain the high ground out of spite or anything, but petty behavior is actually beneath my standards for real.  

The issue is not whether your housemate behaved in ways you disliked. The issue is the conclusion you draw from those events. A person can act in ways that create conflict or negative outcomes, but that does not establish that they are objectively beneath another person. There is no inherent hierarchy where one person is a higher or lower type of human.

People are organisms with different traits, experiences, incentives, and behaviors. Some behaviors are more useful or harmful depending on a goal, but that is not the same thing as proving one person has greater inherent value or status. You can decide someone is incompatible with you or that their behavior is not worth tolerating without turning the situation into evidence that you occupy a superior position.

Dragoonback said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Every conflict has one person more shallow than the other. I still supplied the most toilet paper. I also handled the utility bill, which would cost me around $400 on top of rent and other bills. I supplied the most. Or rather, I STILL supplied the most. Yes it there was jealousy, yes it was toxic, and surprise, I do see shallow behaviour as low frequency behavior. There's nothing wrong with that.  

Nah. Bad behavior is weakness. There's nothing wrong with being jealous, it's what we do when jealous that makes us. If you're mentally weak you're going to have tantrums and do dumb shit. If your life is up for review, there will be shame. 

If I did see him, I can bring all of this up, and what's he going to say? In the end, I just carried on. No fighting. No "dragging me down" and believe me, a lot of people would've snapped. Just wash my hands and move on. Orbiters, status. Perspective. Point of views. I notice how I can write about being abused and you'll try to turn it on me. I know why and I recognize you. It's the same thing with some people. I don't maintain the high ground out of spite or anything, but petty behavior is actually beneath my standards for real.  

The issue is not whether your housemate behaved in ways you disliked. The issue is the conclusion you draw from those events.

My conclusion is not an issue, and never will be. 

A person can act in ways that create conflict or negative outcomes, but that does not establish that they are objectively beneath another person. There is no inherent hierarchy where one person is a higher or lower type of human.

I don't recall saying I'm above anyone. That's your conclusion. 

It's also rational to condemn bad behavior. This doesn't mean I wish for them to fall down, but I will point out how whatever they wanted me to become, backfired, and I do find the experience more laughable. Wisdom comes in many packages. 

People are organisms with different traits, experiences, incentives, and behaviors. Some behaviors are more useful or harmful depending on a goal, but that is not the same thing as proving one person has greater inherent value or status. You can decide someone is incompatible with you or that their behavior is not worth tolerating without turning the situation into evidence that you occupy a superior position.

Basic stuff dude.  

Okay.

I'm a good behavior supremist !

I look down on shallow behavior. Tantrums are a big no no, I will not respect that.

Jealousy is okay, doing dumb shit over it is not. This is weakness, and I don't respect it.   

I don't forgive others for them. I forgive them for me. I'm not carrying any weight. Self respect and I'm not the violator. 

On the subject of Frenemies, I provided a perfect example, and shared how I handled it. I did well. Dare I say, I handled it perfectly.  

As usual I provide content, while you do not. And yes I do think you're a snowflake.

sm said:

My conclusion is not an issue, and never will be. I don't recall saying I'm above anyone. That's your conclusion. It's also rational to condemn bad behavior. This doesn't mean I wish for them to fall down, but I will point out how whatever they wanted me to become, backfired, and I do find the experience more laughable. Wisdom comes in many packages. Basic stuff dude. Okay. I'm a good behavior supremacist! I look down on shallow behavior. Tantrums are a big no no, I will not respect that. Jealousy is okay, doing dumb shit over it is not. This is weakness, and I don't respect it. I don't forgive others for them. I forgive them for me. I'm not carrying any weight. Self respect and I'm not the violator. On the subject of Frenemies, I provided a perfect example, and shared how I handled it. I did well. Dare I say, I handled it perfectly. As usual I provide content, while you do not. And yes I do think you're a snowflake.

It is not about whether you can dislike someone's actions.

The issue is the jump from behavior to identity. Saying “this behavior produces bad outcomes” is different from saying “this person is weak” or placing them beneath your standards as a type of person.

You say you are not creating a hierarchy, but terms like “good behavior supremacist,” “looking down on shallow behavior,” and calling people mentally weak are already ranking people according to a standard. That may be a personal preference, but it is still a hierarchy.

A person can make poor decisions without there being an objective superior or inferior person. The behavior can be rejected without turning the person into evidence of your own position.

You also criticize tantrums and emotional reactions as weakness, but when challenged you shift toward personal attacks by calling people snowflakes and focusing on who provides more “content.” That does not demonstrate a stronger argument, it just repeats the same status-based thinking you are criticizing.

If your standard is behavior, then the argument should stay about behavior. Once it becomes about who is above or below, it is no longer just an evaluation of actions. It becomes another hierarchy.