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Jada said: 

If you plan to argue with theists, you need to understand their theism or they'll shut the door on you immediately. This is why I prefer to use The Bible to see how Satan was actually the good guy, rather than just sit there and use actual logic to disprove the notion of faith.

They won't doubt their faith until their system is broken down. If someone's a hardcore Harry Potter nerd, try arguing with them about how Voldemort had the right idea rather than insulting the idea of childrens' books overall.

Honestly when I see people make these arguments I feel sad, like I've been believing I have someone on my side and actually I just imagined the whole thing and got BSed. 

Except they clearly know 'The Devil's Advocate' was not on their side, and honestly I've had enough of Satan's Kool-Aid to struggle not to defend the poor guy. 

He's a noble beast, and God's a heartless AI with the prompt of 'Love' and far too much time to tangent from the intention. 

Many atheists laugh at Christians without knowing how painful it is to lose belief and how lonely you feel afterwards.

If they don't want to debate the subject, they won't bring it up or they'll let me know it makes them uncomfortable. 

Many prefer the fight as if they can convert me, so I might as well fight back as to convert them if they deal the first blow. There is plenty of Scripture that, when viewed in the right light, shows Satan to be the Angel of Light he truly is. 

It's doing both parties a favor to debate eachother when it comes to overall wisdom, and sometimes wisdom hurts even when over untrue subject matter over how it connects to both the human condition and the individual's reasons for faith. 

To clarify I say that as if Atheism is also a faith. You often see the religious/areligious flipflop when family members die over doubting where they currently are, rather than either having more or less merits to doubt over the other when you divorce your own POV from the argument. 

I regained my faith when I saw a dream about my home and I felt home, then I had a bad feeling about it when I woke up, and I thought my sister had died. I then received a phone call my grandpa died. It sounds like ridiculous but I'm convinced that it was my grandpa in my dream. I never had a close relationship but he had what was the essence of what I consider a happy spiritual life.

If your faith is attached to vulnerable areas, it tends to become clearer overtime why the debate's better to discontinue. 

Then there's people where it's just defending their ego, and they're fair game. 

Afterwards I felt really isolated because I had nobody I could share it with without them raising an eyebrow or even remotely understanding my experience.

Everyone has a divergent opinion raise eyebrows. 

Best they get used to it like the rest of us, rather than hide in ignorant self-privilege, unless they are clinging to it as a lifeline rather than the DEATHLINE Christianity tries to bake into their teachings. 

I'd argue it's less important to prove or disprove God, so much as offer that person what provides them growth. 

If I'm talking to some dude from Detroit who's going on about how religion saved his life and taught him to stop fighting, I'd be an asshole to be like 'well there's no weight to your claims'. It helped that dude become a better person, and I don't want to be the thing that sets them off on a Nihilistic Spiral.

There however are people in a position of more philosophical comfort (or egoism) that are basically asking for it over being the first offenders, so I tend to treat my Satanism as if Self-Defense with room to turn someone to the side of artistic light and worldly pleasures. You Only Live Once (YOLO), so we might as well live our best lives, and many best people's lives are divorced from the diatribe of opposing faiths. If they're willing to argue, they're willing to learn, so I take that as permission. 

If they want my conversion, I'll give it right back to them and remark on the decay of their faith after the fact, if their faith was ever pure in the first place. It's what they wish to give to me, so I'm allowed to reciprocate the 'favor' and enjoy it as much as they might have if they'd won. 'Eye for an Eye' right? 

In most cases they more get mad that I presented a question they weren't ready for, proving they weren't ready for the question and therefor testing their faith somehow... rather than their logic and reasoning skills. If they thought about it already, or put it through a modicum of logic, they'd be able to answer the question or otherwise admit to needing room to think about it rather than feel wounded somehow by it. It's people who have answers, as crazy as they might be, that otherwise show a history of research that I end up respecting more. 

People are allowed to be wrong, but I also want them to explain their reasoning so I can learn something. When they are reluctant to be fully honest in their perspective, or they are not fully fledged in the opinions they're spouting yet, it's an act of Wisdom to challenge that.