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Retard123 said: 

Turncoat said: 

Retard123 said: 

if god is real strike me dead with lightening rn

He'd rather keep you alive to prove something to you about the pain of a Satanic world. 

It gives you room to repent, even if it's two decades from now. Two decades is nothing to God, and even if you never repent it could be your example as a bad person that creates numerous good people. 

We have bad people in the world to inspire good deeds. 

 turncoat is agnostic? i never would've seen that coming

No, I'm an Atheist who has debated many Christians dating back to when I was a Teenage Goth Edgelord. My father was very ironic about The Bible and I spent time in a Lutheran school. 

You need better arguments, The Bible supports why this request would not kill you. 

Turncoat said: 

Retard123 said: 

Turncoat said: 

He'd rather keep you alive to prove something to you about the pain of a Satanic world. 

It gives you room to repent, even if it's two decades from now. Two decades is nothing to God, and even if you never repent it could be your example as a bad person that creates numerous good people. 

We have bad people in the world to inspire good deeds. 

 turncoat is agnostic? i never would've seen that coming

No, I'm an Atheist who has debated many Christians dating back to when I was a Teenage Goth Edgelord. My father was very ironic about The Bible and I spent time in a Lutheran school. 

You need better arguments, The Bible supports why this request would not kill you. 

 I don't care about arguing anymore, my lack of belief is as solid as stone, I was just trolling

Correction, I'm arguably Satanic. 

If it's true that Satan would prefer to fool the world into there being no God, that makes sense to me honestly. If I die and God turns out to be real, I still hold my vote for Satan. 

Turncoat said: 

Retard123 said: 

if god is real strike me dead with lightening rn

He'd rather keep you alive to prove something to you about the pain of a Satanic world. 

It gives you room to repent, even if it's two decades from now. Two decades is nothing to God, and even if you never repent it could be your example as a bad person that creates numerous good people. 

We have bad people in the world to inspire good deeds. 

 this is an example of circular logic that religious people deploy. "god always has a plan" "god works in mysterious ways" "the human mind can't comprehend what god is thinking". with these arguments you could fight yourself out of any well prepared atheist argument, and that's exactly how religion is still a thing in 2026. people can't escape this circular thinking

Turncoat said: 

Correction, I'm arguably Satanic. 

If it's true that Satan would prefer to fool the world into there being no God, that makes sense to me honestly. If I die and God turns out to be real, I still hold my vote for Satan. 

 What you say and how that would actually go down are 2 different things. 

Like you wouldn't just jump into a shredder that can rip almost anything. 

@Retard.

You're a Paki and like Indians they have all these "Gods" and various established religions. Very confusing. 

If there's spiritual warfare and I do believe there is, it's a battle of principals, then the one we hear about most and the one most attacked would be the correct one. 

In near death experiences, it's never Allah. There are even many cases where Muslims come back and convert to Christianity because of their experience and who and what they saw. 

There are many cases of Satanists converting to Christianity too over the same reason, while it's never the other way around. What do you make of stuff like this ?

He tells it a bit better here.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Correction, I'm arguably Satanic. 

If it's true that Satan would prefer to fool the world into there being no God, that makes sense to me honestly. If I die and God turns out to be real, I still hold my vote for Satan. 

 What you say and how that would actually go down are 2 different things. 

Like you wouldn't just jump into a shredder that can rip almost anything. 

Both afterlives are but Hell by another name. 

Retard123 said: 

Turncoat said: 

Retard123 said: 

if god is real strike me dead with lightening rn

He'd rather keep you alive to prove something to you about the pain of a Satanic world. 

It gives you room to repent, even if it's two decades from now. Two decades is nothing to God, and even if you never repent it could be your example as a bad person that creates numerous good people. 

We have bad people in the world to inspire good deeds. 

 this is an example of circular logic that religious people deploy. "god always has a plan" "god works in mysterious ways" "the human mind can't comprehend what god is thinking". with these arguments you could fight yourself out of any well prepared atheist argument, and that's exactly how religion is still a thing in 2026. people can't escape this circular thinking

If you plan to argue with theists, you need to understand their theism or they'll shut the door on you immediately. This is why I prefer to use The Bible to see how Satan was actually the good guy, rather than just sit there and use actual logic to disprove the notion of faith. 

They won't doubt their faith until their system is broken down. If someone's a hardcore Harry Potter nerd, try arguing with them about how Voldemort had the right idea rather than insulting the idea of childrens' books overall. 

Turncoat said: 

Retard123 said: 

Turncoat said: 

He'd rather keep you alive to prove something to you about the pain of a Satanic world. 

It gives you room to repent, even if it's two decades from now. Two decades is nothing to God, and even if you never repent it could be your example as a bad person that creates numerous good people. 

We have bad people in the world to inspire good deeds. 

 this is an example of circular logic that religious people deploy. "god always has a plan" "god works in mysterious ways" "the human mind can't comprehend what god is thinking". with these arguments you could fight yourself out of any well prepared atheist argument, and that's exactly how religion is still a thing in 2026. people can't escape this circular thinking

If you plan to argue with theists, you need to understand their theism or they'll shut the door on you immediately. This is why I prefer to use The Bible to see how Satan was actually the good guy, rather than just sit there and use actual logic to disprove the notion of faith. 

They won't doubt their faith until their system is broken down. If someone's a hardcore Harry Potter nerd, try arguing with them about how Voldemort had the right idea rather than insulting the idea of childrens' books overall. 

 Yeah I agree, I don't know much about Christianity but I do the same when arguing against Muslims. There are sahih grade hadiths clearly stating Muhammed to be a pedophile (had sex with his 9 year old wife who he married when she was 6) and a rapist (had sex with his slave). Sahih grade hadiths are basically the building blocks of modern Islam, they're supposedly testimonies of what the prophet said, and sahih is the highest grade (in terms of legitimacy / trustworthhnes) and so once you start questioning sahih grade hadiths you're basically half a non believer anyway. The Quran itself is basically just the core beliefs, only one god and all that, but the hadiths give details, how many times a day to pray, the exact process of praying, etc. For the Muslim deconstruction process it usually goes: questioning hadiths -> quranists (disregarding the hadiths and only focusing on the content within the Quran itself) -> exmuslim. I could go on about this forever but the point is I agree with you that you have to use their own system against them, but also that they're not going to change their belief in one conversation, it takes multiple over long periods of time, which at that point it isn't worth it for you and you just have to let them walk their journey on their own. 

If you plan to argue with theists, you need to understand their theism or they'll shut the door on you immediately. This is why I prefer to use The Bible to see how Satan was actually the good guy, rather than just sit there and use actual logic to disprove the notion of faith.

They won't doubt their faith until their system is broken down. If someone's a hardcore Harry Potter nerd, try arguing with them about how Voldemort had the right idea rather than insulting the idea of childrens' books overall.

Honestly when I see people make these arguments I feel sad, like I've been believing I have someone on my side and actually I just imagined the whole thing and got BSed. 

Many atheists laugh at Christians without knowing how painful it is to lose belief and how lonely you feel afterwards.

I regained my faith when I saw a dream about my home and I felt home, then I had a bad feeling about it when I woke up, and I thought my sister had died. I then received a phone call my grandpa died. It sounds like ridiculous but I'm convinced that it was my grandpa in my dream. I never had a close relationship but he had what was the essence of what I consider a happy spiritual life.

Afterwards I felt really isolated because I had nobody I could share it with without them raising an eyebrow or even remotely understanding my experience.